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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #125 on: December 08, 2015, 04:03:38 PM »
Floo, "the point I was making... over, and over, and over again, ad infinitum! ::)"  applies to all your posts. Aren't you aware of that?

But you dare not answer the simple question.

Do you concede that you are closed minded.

That is the logical conclusion from your avoidance of the test.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #126 on: December 08, 2015, 04:04:13 PM »
But you dare not answer the simple question.

Do you concede that you are closed minded.

That is the logical conclusion from your avoidance of the test.

End of.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #127 on: December 08, 2015, 04:05:02 PM »
End of.

You have confirmed your closed mindedness.

Will you now never accuse others of being closed minded, when you are yourself?
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #128 on: December 08, 2015, 04:07:49 PM »
You have confirmed your closed mindedness.

Will you now never accuse others of being closed minded, when you are yourself?

End of.  Get it?
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #129 on: December 08, 2015, 04:08:51 PM »
End of.  Get it?

Yes, I get that you are a closed minded coward that dare not answer a simple Yes or No question.

A question, I have no problem answering, but you cannot.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #130 on: December 08, 2015, 04:28:21 PM »
Yes, I get that you are a closed minded coward that dare not answer a simple Yes or No question.

A question, I have no problem answering, but you cannot.

End.... oh, forget it!     :( 
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« Reply #131 on: December 08, 2015, 04:57:45 PM »
What is so very sad is that the poster in question seems totally unaware of how they come over to others, apart from their soul mate. HYPOCRITICAL BIG TIME when they accuse others of things they are doing themselves. They usually start any unpleasantness then have a temper tantrum when people respond in kind! They accuse some posters of being unintelligent failing to grasp that their brain cell is on a downward spiral! ::)

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #132 on: December 08, 2015, 05:00:58 PM »
What is so very sad is that the poster in question seems totally unaware of how they come over to others, apart from their soul mate. HYPOCRITICAL BIG TIME when they accuse others of things they are doing themselves. They usually start any unpleasantness then have a temper tantrum when people respond in kind! They accuse some posters of being unintelligent failing to grasp that their brain cell is on a downward spiral! ::)

Why don't you ever have the guts to say to whom you are referring, instead of "the poster" in question, or some such?
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #133 on: December 08, 2015, 10:44:07 PM »
Why don't you ever have the guts to say to whom you are referring, instead of "the poster" in question, or some such?

Why don't you have the guts to answer a simple Yes No question?

A question that I can easily answer totally defeats you.
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« Reply #134 on: December 09, 2015, 07:48:31 AM »
Your arguments are indeed mindless and poorly reasoned.

But, I did establish that you ARE closed minded.

That is a fact.


All the above from someone who doesn't even know the bible the subject he tries discussing.
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« Reply #135 on: December 09, 2015, 07:53:08 AM »
It's very simple. You failed the open minded test and ran away.

I am an atheist but I accept that I could be completely wrong, and the god you believe in could actually exist, and have all the attributes you think he has.

Now, for you to be open minded, YOU have to accept that YOU could be wrong, and it could be that your god DOES NOT exist.

Do you accept this?

You have to answer YES to be open minded. It is a Yes or No question.

How and why does he have to accept his knowledge of the presence of God could be wrong? That example above has NOTHING to do with open mindedness at all.
You are basically trying to bully someone out of their beliefs. When if you were open minded and believed you could be wrong about your beliefs in God, you would accept Bash's belief as being a reason to support that. However if you want him to maintain the same stance as you then you really have no idea what faith means.

Even the evidence today shows the disciples had witnessed Christ performing miracles and what he did had such a profound affect on their lives that something had to have happened for them to die for those beliefs.

You show very poor reasoning and need to apologise to Bash for your lack of knowledge and understanding as to what faith really means.

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #136 on: December 09, 2015, 07:56:52 AM »
It IS a yes or no answer. You are simply being asked whether you could be wrong. If you cannot accept that, then you are closed minded. That's what being closed minded is!

So you cannot answer YES.

This demonstrates that you are closed minded.

Faith is to be sure of the things we hope for. Faith is the willingness to act on the basis of what we know of God and trust him that he will not let us down.

If God is not letting Bash down and doing everything he says where it the close mindedness in that? As I said previous post. You created your own idea of close mindedness and if you understood what it was to have faith you would know it does not rely on Bash himself.

Whereas your beliefs have only one source and it all comes from you.
You therefore have no choice but to be open minded, however your arguments do not display any open mindedness when it comes to the beliefs or respect of the beliefs of others.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #137 on: December 09, 2015, 08:00:32 AM »
Floo, "the point I was making... over, and over, and over again, ad infinitum! ::)"  applies to all your posts. Aren't you aware of that?

Floo, is too busy worrying about what the other athiests will think about her.
As a people pleaser she has left her roots and wandered into no mans land.
A land where she never really feels acceptance and attacks those who are a God pleaser and no a man pleaser. Cut her some slack she hasn't a clue she is basically just baiting you. Pity that no moderator has read her comments on the thread. Her attacks are out and out personal and intended.

Howto bring  atheists and agnostics into disrepute describes the thread aptly.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #138 on: December 09, 2015, 08:01:55 AM »
So Bash is not closed minded... the person asking the question is not qualified and lacks knowledge so misuses the term on Bash.
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« Reply #139 on: December 09, 2015, 08:45:59 AM »
Floo, is too busy worrying about what the other athiests will think about her.
As a people pleaser she has left her roots and wandered into no mans land.
A land where she never really feels acceptance and attacks those who are a God pleaser and no a man pleaser. Cut her some slack she hasn't a clue she is basically just baiting you. Pity that no moderator has read her comments on the thread. Her attacks are out and out personal and intended.

Howto bring  atheists and agnostics into disrepute describes the thread aptly.

Backing your soul mate I see, or  are clones of one another? ;D I have never given a monkey's what anyone thought of me, much to my late Mother's distress, I should add! ;D

Pot and kettle, ::) you should read your own posts, you are usually attacking non believers and do Christianity no credit at all!

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #140 on: December 09, 2015, 09:49:08 AM »
How and why does he have to accept his knowledge of the presence of God could be wrong? That example above has NOTHING to do with open mindedness at all.
You are basically trying to bully someone out of their beliefs. When if you were open minded and believed you could be wrong about your beliefs in God, you would accept Bash's belief as being a reason to support that. However if you want him to maintain the same stance as you then you really have no idea what faith means.

Even the evidence today shows the disciples had witnessed Christ performing miracles and what he did had such a profound affect on their lives that something had to have happened for them to die for those beliefs.

You show very poor reasoning and need to apologise to Bash for your lack of knowledge and understanding as to what faith really means.

My reasoning is clear and correct.

If you cannot accept that you MAY be wrong, then you are by definition closed minded.

Could you be wrong about the existence of god?

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #141 on: December 09, 2015, 10:03:26 AM »
Backing your soul mate I see, or  are clones of one another? ;D I have never given a monkey's what anyone thought of me, much to my late Mother's distress, I should add! ;D

Pot and kettle, ::) you should read your own posts, you are usually attacking non believers and do Christianity no credit at all!

Well, if you had any clue to real Christianity then you would know there is absolutely NO REASON to attack people for being none believers.
Stick and stones, but in your case there is no reason to be distressed or even bothered about what you think.
You attack your own family and that says more about you than anything I say, says about my faith.

Where do you get off, having a pop at others when even your own family you speak about with disdain.
No! I have to go a long way to be in your league when it comes to attacking others.

Do you know why you are like you are and where you are in life?
Anyone who can comment and bring their own family into disrepute has no loyalty or love at all for doing and saying the right thing. It is all about YOU... Do you ever think of how your words have hurt your parents? Or have you never told them the way you feel as expressed on here.

I don't know about you but I believe the way we treat and speak about others reflects more on the person themselves than their reasons for speaking about others.
I feel for you. I personally believe the world is an unforgiving place and people do not need to burden the bad feelings of others. Sometimes we have to love in a place where no love is given or felt. How else will it change? Would you have seen your parents change had you loved them inspite of everything?

No argument with you. I feel for you that you do not know how it feels to have the love of parents as it was meant. Sometimes parents get it wrong, too. But we have to allow them their mistakes and be thankful we have them. My parents were good parents and I miss them very much. I can only speak of their selflessness in raising 9 children whose lives they made secure, pleasant and loving.

I feel for those like yourself. I have no reason to attack them.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #142 on: December 09, 2015, 10:06:38 AM »
My reasoning is clear and correct.

If you cannot accept that you MAY be wrong, then you are by definition closed minded.

Could you be wrong about the existence of god?

Be wrong about what? What I have experienced?
You see you are not open minded enough or learned enough to accept the that what we EXPERIENCE is real for us. That you have no reasoning about sincerity or a persons ability to  know what they are experiencing.

Do not try to lecture us regarding what we experience and know when you show only a close mind to that truth.

You have the problem and every time you write a post like the above you show how closed minded and uneducated you are in the faith of a Christian. The experiences are real... if you cannot accept that truth and accept that it happens how can you call yourself open minded.

Faith is not about atheism.
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« Reply #143 on: December 09, 2015, 10:41:52 AM »
Well, if you had any clue to real Christianity then you would know there is absolutely NO REASON to attack people for being none believers.
Stick and stones, but in your case there is no reason to be distressed or even bothered about what you think.
You attack your own family and that says more about you than anything I say, says about my faith.

Where do you get off, having a pop at others when even your own family you speak about with disdain.
No! I have to go a long way to be in your league when it comes to attacking others.

Do you know why you are like you are and where you are in life?
Anyone who can comment and bring their own family into disrepute has no loyalty or love at all for doing and saying the right thing. It is all about YOU... Do you ever think of how your words have hurt your parents? Or have you never told them the way you feel as expressed on here.

I don't know about you but I believe the way we treat and speak about others reflects more on the person themselves than their reasons for speaking about others.
I feel for you. I personally believe the world is an unforgiving place and people do not need to burden the bad feelings of others. Sometimes we have to love in a place where no love is given or felt. How else will it change? Would you have seen your parents change had you loved them inspite of everything?

No argument with you. I feel for you that you do not know how it feels to have the love of parents as it was meant. Sometimes parents get it wrong, too. But we have to allow them their mistakes and be thankful we have them. My parents were good parents and I miss them very much. I can only speak of their selflessness in raising 9 children whose lives they made secure, pleasant and loving.

I feel for those like yourself. I have no reason to attack them.

As usual more amusing garbage from Sass who hasn't a clue what she is on about where I am concerned! ::)

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #144 on: December 09, 2015, 11:37:18 AM »
Be wrong about what? What I have experienced?
You see you are not open minded enough or learned enough to accept the that what we EXPERIENCE is real for us. That you have no reasoning about sincerity or a persons ability to  know what they are experiencing.

Do not try to lecture us regarding what we experience and know when you show only a close mind to that truth.

You have the problem and every time you write a post like the above you show how closed minded and uneducated you are in the faith of a Christian. The experiences are real... if you cannot accept that truth and accept that it happens how can you call yourself open minded.

Faith is not about atheism.

The question was could you be wrong in your belief that there is a God? It is quite a simple question really.

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #145 on: December 09, 2015, 11:41:10 AM »
Folks have different experiences, which seem real at the time. One person's experience gives them cause to think a deity exists, another's experience makes them think it doesn't! The human brain can be very convincing.

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« Reply #146 on: December 09, 2015, 02:10:22 PM »
The question was could you be wrong in your belief that there is a God? It is quite a simple question really.
Similarly, you could be asked the opposite/reverse, Maeght.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #147 on: December 09, 2015, 03:33:23 PM »
Why don't you have the guts to answer a simple Yes No question?

A question that I can easily answer totally defeats you.

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #148 on: December 09, 2015, 04:08:34 PM »
Dodge, dodge, bob and weave :D
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #149 on: December 09, 2015, 04:33:55 PM »
Similarly, you could be asked the opposite/reverse, Maeght.

Yes, and I have said many times that I have no belief in God but that one might exist.