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Sassy

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #200 on: December 15, 2015, 01:56:05 PM »
Yup - it's known formally as the argumentum ad populum or argumentum ad numerum. (Don't tell Hope; he's very touchy about people identifying logical fallacies by their technical names for some reason). It's an appeal to numbers as a marker of the rightness of a position or the soundness of an argument. Trent covered it anyway a few posts up.

In other words... "Any excuse when found lacking"  Well show us the logical reason for the earth and us existing in a very dead void called space?

Seems you have no reasoning unless it is made up on your part with absolutely NOTHING to support your excuse for a post.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #201 on: December 15, 2015, 01:56:28 PM »
Poor answer Trent... (((SHAKES HEAD SMILEY)))

It was not a question of something be right or wrong.

It is about the personal experience of the individual. Go back to sleep. ;D

You were the one that quantified it in terms of more believers than non believers, and also brought up the concept of whether it is right or wrong, so don't try and wriggle out of it. I'll just post this to remind you:

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Why not have a discussion about why there are more believers in God than there are Atheists and ask yourself who is most likely to be right than wrong giving the vast numbers that believe in God.

And try not to be a patronising pillock - little girl.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #202 on: December 15, 2015, 01:56:40 PM »
Back to the drawing board, Floo.

That sort of answer could well get your reply of 'You don't have an answer, I see.'


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Read and weep... not one of you could even give the reality the time to reply but ignored what was written....

So for all atheists read the above quote. And don't bother asking for a 'yes' or 'no' answer for something already explained.

Reading the quote it suggests the answer is no.

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #203 on: December 15, 2015, 01:58:40 PM »
In other words... "Any excuse when found lacking"  Well show us the logical reason for the earth and us existing in a very dead void called space?

Seems you have no reasoning unless it is made up on your part with absolutely NOTHING to support your excuse for a post.
What does this latest effusion of illiteracy have to do with the fallacy you committed in #181?
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« Reply #204 on: December 15, 2015, 01:59:33 PM »
Back to the drawing board, Floo.


Read and weep... not one of you could even give the reality the time to reply but ignored what was written....

So for all atheists read the above quote. And don't bother asking for a 'yes' or 'no' answer for something already explained.

My daily giggle from Sass, has helped ease the unpleasantness of yesterday's tooth extraction! ;D ;D ;D  You couldn't come up with a credible explanation even if you tried Sass!

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #205 on: December 17, 2015, 10:36:37 AM »
That is not a YES or NO question.

Why not have a discussion about why there are more believers in God than there are Atheists and ask yourself who is most likely to be right than wrong giving the vast numbers that believe in God.

Bash has experienced the presence of God. Have you?
Well how can you ask the question and question his experience when you have felt Gods presence.

So what is it you want him to do? Lie and pretend he does not believe in his personal experience of God. Truth is you are not open minded otherwise you would show Bash the courtesy of believing him when he says he believes his experience of God  is real.  If open minded and sincere you would not question the possibility that he sincerely believes he knows God presence so has no reason to believe it could be wrong.

Trent read the above.It will explain why you were wrong...
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #206 on: December 17, 2015, 10:38:34 AM »
Sass there is NO evidence the deity exists. The brain is a remarkable organ and can convince people something is 'true' however fanciful that belief happens to be.

Using that way of thinking it can also make you believe so you miss the evidence that God exists... Do stop making stupid statements about things other people experience as if you can prove they are not real.

The truth is you have NO evidence to support your view even from a personal belief stance.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #207 on: December 17, 2015, 11:01:28 AM »
Trent read the above.It will explain why you were wrong...

Silly little girl.

It doesn't.

You made a statement about right & wrong that I have quoted unchanged and in context, and you are now trying to wriggle out of it.
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« Reply #208 on: December 17, 2015, 11:16:44 AM »
Using that way of thinking it can also make you believe so you miss the evidence that God exists... Do stop making stupid statements about things other people experience as if you can prove they are not real.

The truth is you have NO evidence to support your view even from a personal belief stance.

Sass thanks for another giggle! ;D

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #209 on: December 21, 2015, 01:52:33 AM »
Silly little girl.

It doesn't.

You made a statement about right & wrong that I have quoted unchanged and in context, and you are now trying to wriggle out of it.

You really need to learn about Christianity before making ignorant comments. Start with reading what others write CORRECTLY.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #210 on: December 21, 2015, 01:53:33 AM »
Sass thanks for another giggle! ;D

Well!  guess small things amuse small minds... Let me get my microscope and see if we can find yours...
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« Reply #211 on: December 21, 2015, 08:15:41 AM »
Well!  guess small things amuse small minds... Let me get my microscope and see if we can find yours...

Oh well Sass, my mind might be small but at least my imagination doesn't generate the complete religious twaddle yours does, and for that I am very grateful! ;D

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #212 on: December 21, 2015, 10:21:34 AM »
You really need to learn about Christianity before making ignorant comments. Start with reading what others write CORRECTLY.

Did you or did you not type this:

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Why not have a discussion about why there are more believers in God than there are Atheists and ask yourself who is most likely to be right than wrong giving the vast numbers that believe in God.

Did you or did you not bring up the concept of right or wrong in relationship to the numbers of believers?

Will you continue to evade, deflect and lie so that you do not look as monumentally stupid as you clearly are?
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #213 on: December 22, 2015, 01:08:30 AM »
Did you or did you not type this:

Did you or did you not bring up the concept of right or wrong in relationship to the numbers of believers?

Will you continue to evade, deflect and lie so that you do not look as monumentally stupid as you clearly are?

QUOTE FULL POSTS.
THEN EXPLAIN IN CONTENT OF THE PREVIOUS POSTS TO THOSE WHOM THEY WERE WRITTEN TO.
Now apologise...
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #214 on: December 22, 2015, 09:08:01 AM »
QUOTE FULL POSTS.
THEN EXPLAIN IN CONTENT OF THE PREVIOUS POSTS TO THOSE WHOM THEY WERE WRITTEN TO.
Now apologise...

You lie, evade and insult; and you want me to apologise?

Just have sex and travel.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #215 on: December 22, 2015, 10:48:22 AM »
In other words... "Any excuse when found lacking"  Well show us the logical reason for the earth and us existing in a very dead void called space?

Seems you have no reasoning unless it is made up on your part with absolutely NOTHING to support your excuse for a post.

Unusual for you Sass, zero.

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« Reply #216 on: December 22, 2015, 01:53:17 PM »

Quote:  Just have sex and travel.

Interesting idea, makes me think of getting up very early and sneaking out to catch the 'bus/train before the other person wakes up.

(Years ago, when I was young, I read about such things.)
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #217 on: December 22, 2015, 11:10:13 PM »
Quote:  Just have sex and travel.

Interesting idea, makes me think of getting up very early and sneaking out to catch the 'bus/train before the other person wakes up.

(Years ago, when I was young, I read about such things.)

 ;D ;D
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #218 on: December 25, 2015, 09:52:22 PM »
You lie, evade and insult; and you want me to apologise?

Just have sex and travel.

Do you know something Trent, I already know how deeply unhappy you are.
I cannot add further hurt to that.
But I can say you are accusing me and others of that which you do yourself.
I have no need to evade or insult. Nor lie... I just give you back a fuller measure of what you dole out.
But never to hurt but to make you try and see what you are doing.

Your suffering is not mine or any other persons fault. I am not your whipping boy and never will be...figuratively speaking.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #219 on: December 25, 2015, 10:24:21 PM »
I have no need to evade or insult.
Which means that the fact you consistently do so is purely gratuitous, then.
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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #220 on: December 26, 2015, 12:28:33 AM »
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Do you know something Trent, I already know how deeply unhappy you are.
I cannot add further hurt to that.
But I can say you are accusing me and others of that which you do yourself.
I have no need to evade or insult. Nor lie... I just give you back a fuller measure of what you dole out.
But never to hurt but to make you try and see what you are doing.

Your suffering is not mine or any other persons fault. I am not your whipping boy and never will be...figuratively speaking.

You think you know me?

Your post would suggest otherwise.

What suffering do you think I am enduring?

And Sass - I've seen a video of you - you are definitely not my idea of anybody's whipping boy - and that isn't a compliment.

Why don't you look in the mirror and face the fact that you love grabbing the attention and will lie, evade and bully to get it.

I'm pretty sure they are not Christian principles.
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« Reply #221 on: December 27, 2015, 01:39:50 PM »
Sass is the most attention seeking poster on this, and any other forum on which she has ever posted, imo.

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« Reply #222 on: December 27, 2015, 01:49:24 PM »
Do you know something Trent, I already know how deeply unhappy you are.
I cannot add further hurt to that.
But I can say you are accusing me and others of that which you do yourself.
I have no need to evade or insult. Nor lie... I just give you back a fuller measure of what you dole out.
But never to hurt but to make you try and see what you are doing.

Your suffering is not mine or any other persons fault. I am not your whipping boy and never will be...figuratively speaking.

Quite a spectacular ejection of malodorous bile there, Sass, even for you.

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Re: Bringing Christianity into disrepute!
« Reply #223 on: December 27, 2015, 04:10:43 PM »
 ;D ;D

She must have too much Christmas spirit inside her.
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« Reply #224 on: December 27, 2015, 04:16:27 PM »
;D ;D

She must have too much Christmas spirit inside her.

And quite possibly most of the year round! ;D ;D ;D