OOB dream experience.

[Leonard James]

For the first time in my life I had an out of body dream. I had never heard of such a thing before, but on googling it I found it is not uncommon.

I could see myself sitting in a chair with my head back, and Hugh was trying with a needle to get out a piece of grit which was embedded in the white of my eye.

The first view was from a few feet away, but then I moved in and got a close look, and could see his hand shaking (he suffers from essential tremor) as he did it. I could see the needle actually going into the white of my eye, but I felt nothing more than the irritation the grit was causing.

Very strange! It has never happened in real life, and I hope this isn't a warning! 

Has anybody else here had an experience of this kind?

[Shaker]

Sounds interesting! No, nothing of that kind has ever happened to me - I do have some incredibly vivid and occasionally lucid dreams, but nothing like that.

I have had a few mercifully rare instances of sleep paralysis, which is utterly horrendous 

[Leonard James]

Sounds interesting! No, nothing of that kind has ever happened to me - I do have some incredibly vivid and occasionally lucid dreams, but nothing like that.

I have had a few mercifully rare instances of sleep paralysis, which is utterly horrendous 

I hadn't heard of that, Shakes, and it certainly sounds very unpleasant. It seems our brains have evolved with some very weird properties.

[floo]

LJ, poor you, how unpleasant. I haven't had the sort of experience you describe, but I have had some very vivid dreams in my life, which seemed very real at the time.

One of my daughters suffers from sleep paralysis.

[Udayana]

I've had both at various times.

What do you make of it? Why would it be a warning? If it is, of what?

[King Oberon]

Sounds like you need Aunty Flo! 

http://www.auntyflo.com/dream-dictionary/needle

[ippy]

For the first time in my life I had an out of body dream. I had never heard of such a thing before, but on googling it I found it is not uncommon.

I could see myself sitting in a chair with my head back, and Hugh was trying with a needle to get out a piece of grit which was embedded in the white of my eye.

The first view was from a few feet away, but then I moved in and got a close look, and could see his hand shaking (he suffers from essential tremor) as he did it. I could see the needle actually going into the white of my eye, but I felt nothing more than the irritation the grit was causing.

Very strange! It has never happened in real life, and I hope this isn't a warning! 

Has anybody else here had an experience of this kind?

Can't remember who it was Len; I related a really daft and funny dream I had on the forum and some other poster was offering to read my dream, so if you hang on a bit they might get in touch with you.

Perhaps it's this god bloke trying to get a new members and using obscure means in an effort to blind side you and nab a convert.

If you need any more dream readings Len, well.

ippy 

[Bubbles]

For the first time in my life I had an out of body dream. I had never heard of such a thing before, but on googling it I found it is not uncommon.

I could see myself sitting in a chair with my head back, and Hugh was trying with a needle to get out a piece of grit which was embedded in the white of my eye.

The first view was from a few feet away, but then I moved in and got a close look, and could see his hand shaking (he suffers from essential tremor) as he did it. I could see the needle actually going into the white of my eye, but I felt nothing more than the irritation the grit was causing.

Very strange! It has never happened in real life, and I hope this isn't a warning! 

Has anybody else here had an experience of this kind?

It sounds like a warning not to allow your other half , to poke about with the white of your eye with a needle....... The whole idea makes me cringe 

[Leonard James]

Sounds like you need Aunty Flo! 

http://www.auntyflo.com/dream-dictionary/needle

 

That sounds like an uncommon load of old toffee to me!

[Leonard James]

I've had both at various times.

What do you make of it? Why would it be a warning? If it is, of what?

Well, OOB experiences are similar to NDEs ... maybe Old Father Time is lurking near! 

[Leonard James]

Can't remember who it was Len; I related a really daft and funny dream I had on the forum and some other poster was offering to read my dream, so if you hang on a bit they might get in touch with you.

Perhaps it's this god bloke trying to get a new members and using obscure means in an effort to blind side you and nab a convert.

If you need any more dream readings Len, well.

ippy

Nah, Ippy, I don't swallow this dream reading stuff or the god stuff! I was thinking more like my answer to Udyana.

[Leonard James]

It sounds like a warning not to allow your other half , to poke about with the white of your eye with a needle....... The whole idea makes me cringe 

Believe me, Rose, I wouldn't let him near me with a needle under any circumstances ... but dreams can relax all our inhibitions!

[ippy]

Nah, Ippy, I don't swallow this dream reading stuff or the god stuff! I was thinking more like my answer to Udyana.

On reading the other posts, I think you're best off with Auntie Floo, but, of course.

ippy

[Bubbles]

I'm not into reading dreams but I think they can be an indicator of something that is disturbing you in a subconcious sort of way.

In mine sometimes I dream my children are still small and are in danger in some way.

Once I dreamt one was crawling around the bed and was about to slip off the bottom.

I scared my husband half to death when I suddenly grabbed his feet in the middle of the night 
( trying to stop said dream baby falling off)
 

I think mine sometimes reflects my concerns as a parent, and it comes out in various ways in dreams.

Sometimes I dream my children are small and I've lost them..........

I think it must have something to do with my mothering instinct all getting muddled up.

 

Perhaps I'm an overprotective parent 

In that sense, I think dreams can tell you something, sometimes.

Not really sure what Len's are telling him, it could be worries about health.

Mine usually tell me about my insecurities, because in a muddly way that's what they are sometimes about.

🌹

[ippy]

I'm not into reading dreams but I think they can be an indicator of something that is disturbing you in a subconcious sort of way.

In mine sometimes I dream my children are still small and are in danger in some way.

Once I dreamt one was crawling around the bed and was about to slip off the bottom.

I scared my husband half to death when I suddenly grabbed his feet in the middle of the night 
( trying to stop said dream baby falling off)
 

I think mine sometimes reflects my concerns as a parent, and it comes out in various ways in dreams.

Sometimes I dream my children are small and I've lost them..........

I think it must have something to do with my mothering instinct all getting muddled up.

 

Perhaps I'm an overprotective parent 

In that sense, I think dreams can tell you something, sometimes.

Not really sure what Len's are telling him, it could be worries about health.

Mine usually tell me about my insecurities, because in a muddly way that's what they are sometimes about.

🌹

The current thinking is that dreaming is the brain dumping the detritus it gathers during its wakeful hours.

Unless you have some need for a fortune teller, "cross my palm with silver" and all of that, I'd rather go with current theory from professionals.

ippy

[floo]

My nightly dreams, or at least the ones I remember, seem to have some connection with the things going on in my life.

[Udayana]

The current thinking is that dreaming is the brain dumping the detritus it gathers during its wakeful hours.

Unless you have some need for a fortune teller, "cross my palm with silver" and all of that, I'd rather go with current theory from professionals.

ippy

Which professionals - references? So "detritus" is floating around the planet and is somehow getting sucked into peoples brains? Or is it some kind of waste produced by the effort of thinking?

Actually, how is dreaming "dumping"? Where is it being dumped?

[ippy]

Which professionals - references? So "detritus" is floating around the planet and is somehow getting sucked into peoples brains? Or is it some kind of waste produced by the effort of thinking?

Actually, how is dreaming "dumping"? Where is it being dumped?

I have some psychologists in my family and this is what I have been told, I have no reason to doubt what they say.

If you want a discussion about semantics, well thats OK with me, just don't include me in your discussion.

ippy   

[Udayana]

I just don't see how dreaming can be explained by nonsense, unverifiable or un-falsifiable, magical concepts such as "dumping of detritus".

[Gonnagle]

Dear Leonard,

“What is common in all these dreams is obvious. They completely satisfy wishes excited during the day which remain unrealized. They are simply and undisguisedly realizations of wishes.”

Sigmund Freud.

You have some weird wishes old son

Gonnagle.

[ippy]

I just don't see how dreaming can be explained by nonsense, unverifiable or un-falsifiable, magical concepts such as "dumping of detritus".

My niece is a Doctor of psychology and that's what she tells me, I'm a passer on of what she has told me, if you like, you wouldn't want me to make anything up, I haven't.

Why go into the inns and outs of a perfectly understandable description of filtering through daily rubbish that I referred to in that previous post, maybe not scientific terms, but easily understandable, why the semantic nonsense, I hope you're always word perfect to the very last detail every time you commit yourself, even then that's got nothing to do with the subject we're supposed to be discussing, dreams.

ippy

[Udayana]

But then, based on an vague argument from authority, there is no more reason to go with you than with Aunty Flo or any other soothsayer or shaman.

Dreams do affect how people feel, react and think so must be worth investigating further at least to the extent that we understand how they are generated and processed.

Why not just admit that we don't understand this, until we do?

[BashfulAnthony]

Interesting that the contributors to this thread are almost exclusively atheists!  I think the've got OOB confused with OOH - out of head!   

[BeRational]

Interesting that the contributors to this thread are almost exclusively atheists!  I think the've got OOB confused with OOH - out of head!   

You always look confused!

[ippy]

But then, based on an vague argument from authority, there is no more reason to go with you than with Aunty Flo or any other soothsayer or shaman.

Dreams do affect how people feel, react and think so must be worth investigating further at least to the extent that we understand how they are generated and processed.

Why not just admit that we don't understand this, until we do?

Why would someone, a professional, tell me something that was, like anything else scientific always under scrutiny, not the current theory, why would my niece mislead me, why would my niece want to mislead me?

ippy