What is God’s Evolution??

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Where? As my eldest grandson said once when he was very young, "you can't see, hear or feel Jesus, so how do you know he is there?"

One has to realise there is more than an empiricist and reductionist materialist prescription and realise that Jesus is the very thing one is running away from.

[floo]

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My assertion here would be ippy that you are looking for any excuse to be particularly nasty and a Christian is an easy target.

Part of my assessment is an assertion which states that the bullying living cell (cancer cell) behaves in exactly the same way that a bully works in the big wide world. It is all a question of chasing honest people out of their nervous strength. I saw bigger and horribler people than you chasing a factory full of women out of their nervous strength by bullying and so I am more qualified than most to say that nervous strength has a direct link with our genetic health...not to mention that Adolph Hitler had a particular flair for this type of hysterical abuse as well so forgive me if I ignore your assertions that Jesus Christ knows nothing about these horrors or that he can't scientifically assist the oppressed and down trodden or in fact that those who oppose him are not going to be very happy when push comes to shove.

Now...if you've got any ideas about cancer...let's hear them.

NM making an assertion about cancer in this way, when you have no scientific or medical qualifications, it is not only making you look very silly, it is an insult to the poor people who have cancer, or have relatives with it!

[floo]

One has to realise there is more than an empiricist and reductionist materialist prescription and realise that Jesus is the very thing one is running away from.

How can you run away from a person whom you believe to be long dead, as there is no evidence that they are still alive in some dimension or other?

[Leonard James]

How can you run away from a person whom you believe to be long dead, as there is no evidence that they are still alive in some dimension or other?

Religious people profess many abilities that are denied to us lesser mortals.

[floo]

Religious people profess many abilities that are denied to us lesser mortals.

Some religious people, not all!

[Leonard James]

Some religious people, not all!

Well, in this instance, it's the ones who insist that JC still lives that I was referring to. 

[NicholasMarks]

NM making an assertion about cancer in this way, when you have no scientific or medical qualifications, it is not only making you look very silly, it is an insult to the poor people who have cancer, or have relatives with it!

Looking silly is a price I am prepared tp pay to bring to all who are capable of hearing a bona fide science that is owned by Almighty God and taught to us by Jesus Christ which states categorically that every law in the universe revolves around God's fountain of living waters...the same stuff that my entire science is built upon.

You may not see the cancerous aspect of Hitler's behaviour or even realise that even today it is just bubbling beneath the surface of our every day lives but the net result will be exactly the same as before, unless we realise that it is a cancer...that bullying is the nature of that cancer and just as it inflicts disunity amongst all those who are unprepared for it so does the mechanics of the living cell which have no protection from the sheer nervous waste inflicted upon it.

The same mechanics are made known to us through evolution and the more caring attributes amongst our pets shows that their genetics can be tamed and made healthier than their wild progenitors by soothing and calming those wild behaviour patterns.

So...the science doesn't need medical authorisation...in fact such people did some terrible things during the war so I'll just follow the loving kindness of Jesus Christ...thankyou.

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[floo]

Looking silly is a price I am prepared tp pay to bring to all who are capable of hearing a bona fide science that is owned by Almighty God and taught to us by Jesus Christ which states categorically that every law in the universe revolves around God's fountain of living waters...the same stuff that my entire science is built upon.

You may not see the cancerous aspect of Hitler's behaviour or even realise that even today it is just bubbling beneath the surface of our every day lives but the net result will be exactly the same as before, unless we realise that it is a cancer...that bullying is the nature of that cancer and just as it inflicts disunity amongst all those who are unprepared for it so does the mechanics of the living cell which have no protection from the sheer nervous waste inflicted upon it.

The same mechanics are made known to us through evolution and the more caring attributes amongst our pets shows that their genetics can be tamed and made healthier than their wild progenitors by soothing and calming those wild behaviour patterns.

So...the science doesn't need medical authorisation...in fact such people did some terrible things during the war so I'll just follow the loving kindness of Jesus Christ...thankyou.

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NM your assertions are all over the place, and make less and less sense as you go along. I don't want to be rude, but I am concerned that you might have some problems which might need the help of a psychotherapist!

[NicholasMarks]

NM your assertions are all over the place, and make less and less sense as you go along. I don't want to be rude, but I am concerned that you might have some problems which might need the help of a psychotherapist!

I don't want to appear rude either Floo...I get wonderful support from the Holy Bible...along with a few million others over quite a few generations now. ..and yet you close your mind to every caring message that the Holy Bible conveys and openly brag of your indoctrination of your own family...When you have proven my science to be incorrect...then I will back down but I've got a very strong conviction that you can't especially as I have seen the fruits of my labours first hand.

It isn't the best tactic when a deep and complex science is being explained to keep knocking it at every turn because you yourself have convinced yourself that there is no merit in Jesus so there is no merit in a science built upon his teaching but there are still millions who say you are wrong.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

How can you run away from a person whom you believe to be long dead, as there is no evidence that they are still alive in some dimension or other?

You're unreasonable anger directed at Jesus and not at other religious formulations is a giveaway Floo. If you really believed above is true...you would not act and speak the way you do.

[Shaker]

You're unreasonable anger directed at Jesus and not at other religious formulations is a giveaway Floo. If you really believed above is true...you would not act and speak the way you do.

It's not anger directed at Jesus, Vlad. I have no doubt that you may see it that way, but that says more about you than anyone else.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It's not anger directed at Jesus, Vlad. I have no doubt that you may see it that way, but that says more about you than anyone else.

Oh and the antitheism around here doesn't have a distinctly antichristian bias.

If we look at all the campaigns that the antitheists promote on here there is probably some support for the objective (although not the means nor the further objective) from some quarter of Christianity..........so that leaves, er, antichristianity.

[Shaker]

Oh and the antitheism around here doesn't have a distinctly antichristian bias.

Familiarity, Vlad (and you know what that breeds). It's the religion with which most posters here (most of the population as a whole, actually) are most familiar. Moreover a Christian denomination inexplicably remains the established state church of the largest British nation, so is the one still actively seeking a place in public life and attempting to sway legislation, etc.

To my knowledge we have one Muslim member here and three pagans (apologies if I've left anyone out) and even the pagans are from a background which gave them some familiarity with Christianity and not, for example, Buddhism.

If we look at all the campaigns that the antitheists promote on here there is probably some support for the objective (although not the means nor the further objective) from some quarter of Christianity..........so that leaves, er, antichristianity.

Could you reword that so that it makes sense?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Familiarity, Vlad (and you know what that breeds). It's the religion with which most posters here (most of the population as a whole, actually) are most familiar.

Are you saying they never paid attention in class? Why did they not listen to what was being taught them about other cultures and religions.

You know though that my view is that the religious knowledge of many with regards to Christianity is pretty substandard.

That is because education has been dominated by Secular Humanists for decades and thus you are all indoctrinated.

[NicholasMarks]

Religious people profess many abilities that are denied to us lesser mortals.

That ones easy Leon/Floo...It is simply a case of upbuilding a righteous spirit according to the laws of the one who showed us how its done. You see this indestructible energy...besides being the provider of evolution, genetic health, stars, atoms and galaxies is also the stuff (I really shouldn't call it stuff) well known to God and to science its just that science hasn't got round to understanding it yet.

Don't worry...I have a good grasp of it and will try to help those who can accept Jesus in a righteous way...but there is a time restriction because evil is biting at the bit to make our lives distressful.

[Shaker]

Are you saying they never paid attention in class? Why did they not listen to what was being taught them about other cultures and religions.

Probably because they're about as interested in non-Christian religions as they are in Christianity.

You know though that my view is that the religious knowledge of many with regards to Christianity is pretty substandard.

Polls would seem to bear this out. But what of it?

That is because education has been dominated by Secular Humanists for decades and thus you are all indoctrinated.

I'm a staunch secularist though not a humanist, necessarily - certainly not with a capital H - so the "indoctrination" clearly doesn't work.

[floo]

You're unreasonable anger directed at Jesus and not at other religious formulations is a giveaway Floo. If you really believed above is true...you would not act and speak the way you do.

I am not angry at Jesus, as far as I am concerned he is long dead. I am angry at the Christians who use threats to get people to convert, which is emotional abuse!

[floo]

That ones easy Leon/Floo...It is simply a case of upbuilding a righteous spirit according to the laws of the one who showed us how its done. You see this indestructible energy...besides being the provider of evolution, genetic health, stars, atoms and galaxies is also the stuff (I really shouldn't call it stuff) well known to God and to science its just that science hasn't got round to understanding it yet.

Don't worry...I have a good grasp of it and will try to help those who can accept Jesus in a righteous way...but there is a time restriction because evil is biting at the bit to make our lives distressful.

NM I don't know if you have family or friends, but if you do how do they react to your assertions  where religion is concerned?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Probably because they're about as interested in non-Christian religions as they are in Christianity.
Polls would seem to bear this out. But what of it?
I'm a staunch secularist though not a humanist, necessarily - certainly not with a capital H - so the "indoctrination" clearly doesn't work.

Yes, they might not be interested in it....but you then suggest to them years after when they are infesting boards like this that they are as Numpties on what they choose to comment on, they get all offended.

You Shaker are unique....and you can take that how you like.

[floo]

Yes, they might not be interested in it....but you then suggest to them years after when they are infesting boards like this that they are as Numpties on what they choose to comment on, they get all offended.

You Shaker are unique....and you can take that how you like.

And you aren't a numpty, of course?

[NicholasMarks]

I am not angry at Jesus, as far as I am concerned he is long dead. I am angry at the Christians who use threats to get people to convert, which is emotional abuse!

But there lies your problem Floo...The Holy Bible tells us he was whisked off to Heaven to sit at the right hand of his father until the final trumpet blows. Now that has been 2000 years coming so there is no time threat there is there??

Even so the science he left behind which includes communication with our Deity and the power of resurrection, repair, and ultimately everlasting life has been in our midst...and...dare I say it...even evolution can't dodge its laws.

[floo]

But there lies your problem Floo...The Holy Bible tells us he was whisked off to Heaven to sit at the right hand of his father until the final trumpet blows. Now that has been 2000 years coming so there is no time threat there is there??

Even so the science he left behind which includes communication with our Deity and the power of resurrection, repair, and ultimately everlasting life has been in our midst...and...dare I say it...even evolution can't dodge its laws.

How very convenient! If he really resurrected he should have stuck around so there would be no dispute about it! Much of the Bible has no more credibility than the Harry Potter books, which are a better read, imo!

I note you didn't answer my question. I take it if you have family and friends they don't regard your assertions as anymore credible than those of us on this forum! Have you ever converted anyone to your way of thinking?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Much of the Bible has no more credibility than the Harry Potter books, which are a better read, imo!

Certainly more comfortable, eh, Floo?

[Shaker]

Certainly more comfortable, eh, Floo?

Certainly more comfortable to cling to your Jesus than take seriously Allah's message for disbelievers in Islam, eh, Vlad?

[NicholasMarks]

How very convenient! If he really resurrected he should have stuck around so there would be no dispute about it! Much of the Bible has no more credibility than the Harry Potter books, which are a better read, imo!

I note you didn't answer my question. I take it if you have family and friends they don't regard your assertions as anymore credible than those of us on this forum! Have you ever converted anyone to your way of thinking?

The first law of internet forums is never release personal information because it will often turn round and bite you on the bum...and so I will keep that for my own knowledge. What I will tell you is that the factory full of women I mentioned earlier who were being bullied into a high level of emotional distress were certainly grateful...though they never understood the mechanics at work or that it was Jesus Christ who had laid down the laws that I was working by and from which they got some relief and I got a lot of knowledge out of.

That is why I now prefer to convert heathens because it is them who are otherwise totally lost and it is them who are causing all the emotional distress in the world...according to the Holy Bible, anyway.