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NicholasMarks

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What is God’s Evolution??
« on: November 25, 2015, 05:12:50 PM »
What is God’s Evolution??

When we have placed Almighty God on the highest pinnacle over all the spiritual/electric laws behind Creation and shown that Jesus Christ had a full understanding of his father’s spiritual/electric laws we can take a deeper look at these electric laws to answer questions that we can’t seem to get answers to very easily…questions such as…What is evolution??

Evolution appears to have exploded in the early days after this planet became suitable for life and then it tailed off…Why??

It seems to have moulded and fashioned all species around the environment that became its home…Why??

It branched into male and female…Why??

Except for the human race, which prefers stodge and stale food, the creatures of evolution survive by eating fresh, newly deceased, living cells, which they hunt and track and have developed specialised senses to enable capture…Why??

Well…there is only one set of answers that explain it as it is presented to us…and that is what I want to discuss here because genetic repair is the direct opposite of genetic damage and Jesus Christ knew all about this without any doubt. A key principle being that reaching out for various needs alters the genetic code reinforced by the simple fact that reaching out for Jesus Christ alters it to.

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2015, 05:21:45 PM »
A decent and relatively recent textbook on evolutionary biology is all you need, Nick.

(P.S. God/Jesus is not a factor in the ToE and, therefore, is irrelevant.)

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 05:42:42 PM »
What is God’s Evolution??

When we have placed Almighty God on the highest pinnacle over all the spiritual/electric laws behind Creation and shown that Jesus Christ had a full understanding of his father’s spiritual/electric laws we can take a deeper look at these electric laws to answer questions that we can’t seem to get answers to very easily…questions such as…What is evolution??

Evolution appears to have exploded in the early days after this planet became suitable for life and then it tailed off…Why??

It seems to have moulded and fashioned all species around the environment that became its home…Why??

It branched into male and female…Why??

Except for the human race, which prefers stodge and stale food, the creatures of evolution survive by eating fresh, hewly deceased, living cells, which they hunt and track and have developed specialised senses to enable capture…Why??

Well…there is only one set of answers that explain it as it is presented to us…and that is what I want to discuss here because genetic repair is the direct opposite of genetic damage and Jesus Christ knew all about this without any doubt. A key principle being that reaching out for various needs alters the genetic code reinforced by the simple fact that reaching out for Jesus Christ alters it to.

Here we go again! ::)

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 06:07:24 PM »
Floo, Gordon:

I would disagree with you there Gordon...it is still hotly disputed between scientists themselves and Christians have failed to see that Almighty God, though resurrecting this planet from a void, tidally locked state, still made man and woman using the genetic mechanics that was already well suited to the environment he restored. What science hasn't realised yet is how the living cell came to function as it does and how it was able to change to accommodate the various and different influences upon them such as climate change, food abundance or its scarcity, shelter, camouflage and of course the loving aspect of their behaviour which animal lovers quickly endear to.

You see...the common denominator here  is 'nervous expression' and this is an energy which we have already discussed at great length.

 

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 07:40:07 PM »
What is God’s Evolution??

When we have placed Almighty God on the highest pinnacle over all the spiritual/electric laws behind Creation and shown that Jesus Christ had a full understanding of his father’s spiritual/electric laws we can take a deeper look at these electric laws to answer questions that we can’t seem to get answers to very easily…questions such as…What is evolution??

Evolution appears to have exploded in the early days after this planet became suitable for life and then it tailed off…Why??

It seems to have moulded and fashioned all species around the environment that became its home…Why??

It branched into male and female…Why??

Except for the human race, which prefers stodge and stale food, the creatures of evolution survive by eating fresh, newly deceased, living cells, which they hunt and track and have developed specialised senses to enable capture…Why??

Well…there is only one set of answers that explain it as it is presented to us…and that is what I want to discuss here because genetic repair is the direct opposite of genetic damage and Jesus Christ knew all about this without any doubt. A key principle being that reaching out for various needs alters the genetic code reinforced by the simple fact that reaching out for Jesus Christ alters it to.
 

N M can you write a post without using unsubstantiated assertions? You've never put anything on this forum that can be substantiated.

Why's that?

ippy


 

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2015, 08:22:19 PM »
ippy:

Life couldn’t exist if it wasn’t for the living cell. It is the prime mover of evolution and so it is the living cell we need to understand before we can understand evolution. There are many aspects to this…some covered by science but also some overlooked by science and it is this I have tried to explore in parallel with the other things we have already discussed on other topics.

To keep it conventional I will stick to provable facts first than suggest what the whole of my science is telling me, and you, I am quite sure, will tell me I have got it all wrong.

The living cell appears to have two key component parts that come together and make a living cell, which then replicates…It is this replicating process that deserves a second look. It is all controlled by electric/magnetic forces.

Prophase, metaphase, anaphase, telophase, are the typical phases of replication and if we watch these stages carefully we can see that hidden electric/magnetic forces are working this process. We could explain this quite easily but it is best to see, at this stage, that whenever this type of behaviour occurs where two magnetic forces are moving together we can generate an electric charge. Now this is our nervous strength which shouldn’t go to waste…it is the nervous energy of the cell and is responsible for maintaining a healthy replicating process whilst its surplus also enters a pool of energy that supports other cellular processes at various times of bodily need…so our pattern of wasting this energy via our excessive nervous expressions is sheer waste and, long term, has a massive damaging effect on our health…

This is also a part of the Christian message where we are taught to upbuild a righteous spirit, which is where I gleaned this from.


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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2015, 08:26:41 PM »
A decent and relatively recent textbook on evolutionary biology is all you need, Nick.

.............would that be one by Dawkins by any chance?

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2015, 08:46:43 PM »
.............would that be one by Dawkins by any chance?

Could be, Vlad, could be - or any other competent evolutionary biologist.

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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2015, 08:49:59 PM »
.............would that be one by Dawkins by any chance?
As Gord of the Board said, could be - but there are some other absolutely cracking introductions to/explanations of evolution by scientists you're not obsessed with.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2015, 08:57:41 PM »
As Gord of the Board said, could be - but there are some other absolutely cracking introductions to/explanations of evolution by scientists you're not obsessed with.

I know this won't mean anything to you as your mind can make only elementary links but I am an evolutionist.

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2015, 09:08:52 PM »
Vlud,

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.............would that be one by Dawkins by any chance?

Given Sparky's car crash ignorance on the subject, I'd suggest Jerry Coyne's "Why Evolution is True" as a good primer I think.
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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2015, 09:16:08 PM »
Vlud,

Given Sparky's car crash ignorance on the subject, I'd suggest Jerry Coyne's "Why Evolution is True" as a good primer I think.

The Natural History Museum produce a good volume on the subject.

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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2015, 09:48:38 PM »
Vlud,

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The Natural History Museum produce a good volume on the subject.

Fine - anything credible would do. The fact is that Sparky posted a series of factual mistakes or at best statements that display his deep misunderstandings about evolution so reading something on the subject should at least help him a little.   
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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2015, 10:19:07 PM »
tidally locked state

I see that at least some things you were educated on from your last foray here stick!  ::)

Now all we have to do is correct the rest of your swirly, whirly, candy floss based blatherings!
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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2015, 10:39:48 PM »
ippy:

Life couldn’t exist if it wasn’t for the living cell. It is the prime mover of evolution and so it is the living cell we need to understand before we can understand evolution. There are many aspects to this…some covered by science but also some overlooked by science and it is this I have tried to explore in parallel with the other things we have already discussed on other topics.

To keep it conventional I will stick to provable facts first than suggest what the whole of my science is telling me, and you, I am quite sure, will tell me I have got it all wrong.

The living cell appears to have two key component parts that come together and make a living cell, which then replicates…It is this replicating process that deserves a second look. It is all controlled by electric/magnetic forces.

Prophase, metaphase, anaphase, telophase, are the typical phases of replication and if we watch these stages carefully we can see that hidden electric/magnetic forces are working this process. We could explain this quite easily but it is best to see, at this stage, that whenever this type of behaviour occurs where two magnetic forces are moving together we can generate an electric charge. Now this is our nervous strength which shouldn’t go to waste…it is the nervous energy of the cell and is responsible for maintaining a healthy replicating process whilst its surplus also enters a pool of energy that supports other cellular processes at various times of bodily need…so our pattern of wasting this energy via our excessive nervous expressions is sheer waste and, long term, has a massive damaging effect on our health…

This is also a part of the Christian message where we are taught to upbuild a righteous spirit, which is where I gleaned this from.

Sorry NM I said all you do is to keep on making assertions, obviously I was wrong, you write copious amounts of complete bollocks too.

Another fitting description of your post would be, away with the fairies.

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2015, 11:33:27 PM »
Vlud,

Fine - anything credible would do.
Yes The Natural History Museum were in the Public awareness of science game when Richard was in short trousers and sticking pins in beetles.

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2015, 08:13:34 AM »
On stage before it wore off, ippy, Sebastian Toe, bluehillside, Shaker, Gordon:

As you might expect this electric charge or nervous energy generated within the living cell has an important part to play in the story of evolution and in the story of today’s genetic health, both in the animal kingdom and in human life. We cannot escape the fact that every behaviour pattern of every form of life is sponsored by this electric power even at the genetic level and so we know for a fact that mankind is somehow abusing this power.

This point certainly wasn’t  lost on Jesus Christ.



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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2015, 08:18:07 AM »
On stage before it wore off, ippy, Sebastian Toe, bluehillside, Shaker, Gordon:

As you might expect this electric charge or nervous energy generated within the living cell has an important part to play in the story of evolution and in the story of today’s genetic health, both in the animal kingdom and in human life. We cannot escape the fact that every behaviour pattern of every form of life is sponsored by this electric power even at the genetic level and so we know for a fact that mankind is somehow abusing this power.

This point certainly wasn’t  lost on Jesus Christ.

Be thankful NM even if they're not letting you out at least they let you have access to a computer.

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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2015, 08:36:44 AM »
On stage before it wore off, ippy, Sebastian Toe, bluehillside, Shaker, Gordon:

As you might expect this electric charge or nervous energy generated within the living cell has an important part to play in the story of evolution and in the story of today’s genetic health, both in the animal kingdom and in human life. We cannot escape the fact that every behaviour pattern of every form of life is sponsored by this electric power even at the genetic level and so we know for a fact that mankind is somehow abusing this power.

This point certainly wasn’t  lost on Jesus Christ.

Please point to the chapters and verses where Jesus uses any of those phrases, or indicates that he thought along the same lines as you?

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2015, 10:21:35 AM »
Please point to the chapters and verses where Jesus uses any of those phrases, or indicates that he thought along the same lines as you?

Here's one for starters Floo...but it is rather subtle so I'm not sure you will see it as I do...

'Take a tip from the lilies in the valley, neither do they toil nor spin, but truly I say to you, that Solomon, in all his glory, was not arrayed as wonderfully as one of these.'

Jesus was comparing the genetic make-up of a simple life form against all the trinkets and bling that made Solomon look special but gave nothing to his genetic health. You see...our health is more important than any other consideration in God's and Jesus' eyes, and it all starts with our spiritual/nervous/electric health. .

 

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2015, 10:54:43 AM »
Here's one for starters Floo...but it is rather subtle so I'm not sure you will see it as I do...

'Take a tip from the lilies in the valley, neither do they toil nor spin, but truly I say to you, that Solomon, in all his glory, was not arrayed as wonderfully as one of these.'

Jesus was comparing the genetic make-up of a simple life form against all the trinkets and bling that made Solomon look special but gave nothing to his genetic health. You see...our health is more important than any other consideration in God's and Jesus' eyes, and it all starts with our spiritual/nervous/electric health. .

NM this part of your post above:

"Jesus was comparing the genetic make-up of a simple life form against all the trinkets and bling that made Solomon look special but gave nothing to his genetic health. You see...our health is more important than any other consideration in God's and Jesus' eyes, and it all starts with our spiritual/nervous/electric health".

Have a think about it and try to tell me how you or anyone else could possibly have gained this knowledge, there's absolutely nowhere on Earth that you can find any evidence that could possibly support the things you have said here.

Try to write an answer, we all know you've been severely indoctrinated, so there's no need to use any of those indoctrinated assertions you can't seem to get out of your head, look for evidence to support the things you keep asserting and when you can't find the evidence to support any of them give them up they are worthless babble.

Try to write something sensible, for at the least once.

I look forward to reading a sensible post from you MN, no more babble, please.

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2015, 11:48:50 AM »
Dear Nicholas,

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What is God’s Evolution??

I am quite happy with Darwin's theory, okay happy is not the right word, maybe happy in my own ignorance of it, no, evolution is a bloody difficult subject to fully get your head around, and you are right, it is full of "why's".

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Jesus was comparing the genetic make-up of a simple life form against all the trinkets and bling that made Solomon look special but gave nothing to his genetic health. You see...our health is more important than any other consideration in God's and Jesus' eyes, and it all starts with our spiritual/nervous/electric health. .

No arguments from me old son, good health, mind and body are supremely important.

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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2015, 11:52:09 AM »
NM this part of your post above:

"Jesus was comparing the genetic make-up of a simple life form against all the trinkets and bling that made Solomon look special but gave nothing to his genetic health. You see...our health is more important than any other consideration in God's and Jesus' eyes, and it all starts with our spiritual/nervous/electric health".

Have a think about it and try to tell me how you or anyone else could possibly have gained this knowledge, there's absolutely nowhere on Earth that you can find any evidence that could possibly support the things you have said here.

Try to write an answer, we all know you've been severely indoctrinated, so there's no need to use any of those indoctrinated assertions you can't seem to get out of your head, look for evidence to support the things you keep asserting and when you can't find the evidence to support any of them give them up they are worthless babble.

Try to write something sensible, for at the least once.

I look forward to reading a sensible post from you MN, no more babble, please.

ippy

Specially for you ippy...You must remember that Jesus ' ministry was 2000 years ago...a long time before modern science which now sees many of the hidden forces that no one could have possibly understood then. This is why he said that he has fed us with milk because the full scientific truth would have been and still is too profound to understand.

I am like a computer assembly language because it is very complicated writing in hex and binary but it helps if you have a more simplified version...Can you understand that??


   


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Re: What is God’s Evolution??
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2015, 12:22:58 PM »
Specially for you ippy...You must remember that Jesus ' ministry was 2000 years ago...a long time before modern science which now sees many of the hidden forces that no one could have possibly understood then. This is why he said that he has fed us with milk because the full scientific truth would have been and still is too profound to understand.

I am like a computer assembly language because it is very complicated writing in hex and binary but it helps if you have a more simplified version...Can you understand that??

"You must remember that Jesus ' ministry was 2000 years ago"... Another assertion NM.

"a long time before modern science which now sees many of the hidden forces that no one could have possibly understood then". Another assertion.

"This is why he said that he has fed us with milk because the full scientific truth would have been and still is too profound to understand". Another assertion.

"I am like a computer assembly language because it is very complicated writing in hex and binary but it helps if you have a more simplified version...Can you understand that"?? More incomprehensible babble.

Get yourself a good dictionary N M, look up assertion and then look for a description of babble, get someone to help you fully understand the meanings of these words and then perhaps have another try.

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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2015, 12:26:30 PM »
Here's one for starters Floo...but it is rather subtle so I'm not sure you will see it as I do...

'Take a tip from the lilies in the valley, neither do they toil nor spin, but truly I say to you, that Solomon, in all his glory, was not arrayed as wonderfully as one of these.'

Jesus was comparing the genetic make-up of a simple life form against all the trinkets and bling that made Solomon look special but gave nothing to his genetic health. You see...our health is more important than any other consideration in God's and Jesus' eyes, and it all starts with our spiritual/nervous/electric health. .

If that statement attributed to Jesus was actually said by him, I very much doubt it had anything to do with your interpretation of it! ::)