A quote for the atheists to consider.

[Shaker]

Who says?  And are they qualified to pronounce on this particular OP?  Find out before you post.

Anybody who can read and understand a scientific case can do that.

[Gordon]

Gordon, I'm sure you're aware that if I said today is Monday, I'd get an argument!     

Of course I don't subscribe to the post:  I don't have the scientific knowledge to make any definitive decision in any way:  as is the case with every other poster; googling aside, that is!  It'a merely a topic for debate, and not really for getting stuck into me, again.   

Seemed to me that with the daftness of what you quoted, along with the 'get googling chaps' comment, you were flying a kite: this seems a reasonable conclusion - unless of course you are flirting with creationism.

No argument from me that today is Monday - so you are on safe ground there.

[BashfulAnthony]

Anybody who can read and understand a scientific case can do that.

And it doesn't mean that their opinion is worth tuppence.

[Shaker]

And it doesn't mean that their opinion is worth tuppence.

Handy hint: concentrate on the 'understanding' bit.

[BashfulAnthony]

Seemed to me that with the daftness of what you quoted, along with the 'get googling chaps' comment, you were flying a kite: this seems a reasonable conclusion - unless of course you are flirting with creationism.

No argument from me that today is Monday - so you are on safe ground there.

I'm no creationist:  I'm a Marcionite, and he wasn't a creationist either.

Yes, but you take my point, I assume.

[Maeght]

So, instead of just frantically googling (as usual) try voicing your own opinion.

Was what you posted in the OP your own opinion then?

[BashfulAnthony]

Was what you posted in the OP your own opinion then?

It was posted in order to debate it, as we do on here. I do not subscribe to it, nor pretend to have any particular knowledge in the matter, as I have said.

[Gordon]

I'm no creationist:  I'm a Marcionite, and he wasn't a creationist either.

Yes, but you take my point, I assume.

Yep - the OP, bearing in mind the content and your stated position on creationism, was clearly a wind-up pure and simple.

That nobody has taken your challenge seriously would seem to indicate that.

[jeremyp]

Perhaps one of our resident "experts" on here can counter this?  Get googling, chaps!

"The probablility of a single protein molecule being arranged by chance is 1 in 10[to the 161th power], using all atoms on earth and allowing all the time since the world began... For a minimum set of the required 239 protein molecules for the smallest theoretical life, the probability is 1 in 10 [to the 119,879th power]. It would take 10[tothe power of 119,841] years on the average to get a set of such proteins. That is 10 [to the power of 119,831] times the assumed age of the earth and is a figure with 119, 831 zeroes. -Coppedge, Evolution: Possible or Impossible?, pg. 110, 114

This is a text book example of a straw man argument.

Biologists don't claim that the proteins in your body arose purely by chance. They have a theory called the "Theory of Evolution" which describes a non random mechanism for the evolution of proteins over time by inheritance with modification and natural selection.

We have told you this hundreds of times before but you won't listen for some reason. Your self imposed ignorance is disturbing but predictable.

[BashfulAnthony]

This is a text book example of a straw man argument.

Biologists don't claim that the proteins in your body arose purely by chance. They have a theory called the "Theory of Evolution" which describes a non random mechanism for the evolution of proteins over time by inheritance with modification and natural selection.

We have told you this hundreds of times before but you won't listen for some reason. Your self imposed ignorance is disturbing but predictable.

Are you feeling well?  Just a nominal insult, and no swear words!  Well, it is Christmas!   

[Outrider]

Of course I don't subscribe to the post:  I don't have the scientific knowledge to make any definitive decision in any way:  as is the case with every other poster; googling aside, that is!  It'a merely a topic for debate, and not really for getting stuck into me, again.   

I think that you really shouldn't tar us all with that 'ignorant of the science brush'. Some of us are quite capable of grasping the concepts, that's why we can paraphrase them for you and interact on the commentary.

Just because you don't understand it, don't presume no-one does.

O.

[BashfulAnthony]

I think that you really shouldn't tar us all with that 'ignorant of the science brush'. Some of us are quite capable of grasping the concepts, that's why we can paraphrase them for you and interact on the commentary.

Just because you don't understand it, don't presume no-one does.

O.

Then discuss the wretched thread instead of looking for any excuse to have a pop at me:  that's not too intelligent; you know!   

[Outrider]

Then discuss the wretched thread instead of looking for any excuse to have a pop at me:  that's not too intelligent; you know!   

Been there, done that - reply #19. Then, well after that, you decided that people here needed to google to come up with a response.

But, hey, don't let reality get in the way of your persecution complex.

O.

[BashfulAnthony]

Been there, done that - reply #19. Then, well after that, you decided that people here needed to google to come up with a response.

But, hey, don't let reality get in the way of your persecution complex.

O.

Hi,

Still banging away with your obsession.  I have no persecution complex:  so you are misrepresenting me, as always.  If I did, it would be entirely justified in the face of the years of unending abuse and tirade from the likes of your obsessive self.

[Outrider]

Still banging away with your obsession.  I have no persecution complex:  so you are misrepresenting me, as always.  If I did, it would be entirely justified in the face of the years of unending abuse and tirade from the likes of your obsessive self.

Should I see this, in light of your desperation to debate the issue in the OP, as an admission that you regurgitated abject bollocks with no understanding and consider yourself adequately schooled now by someone with a clue, or were you going to address the topic you raised?

O.

[BashfulAnthony]

Should I see this, in light of your desperation to debate the issue in the OP, as an admission that you regurgitated abject bollocks with no understanding and consider yourself adequately schooled now by someone with a clue, or were you going to address the topic you raised?

O.

That tortuous and foul-mouthed comment gets no other response from me  -  more than 80,000 adjectives in the English Language, and all you can come up with is an expletive to express yourself.  Says everything about your "debating skill."

[Outrider]

That tortuous and foul-mouthed comment gets no other response from me  -  more than 80,000 adjectives in the English Language, and all you can come up with is an expletive to express yourself.  Says everything about your "debating skill."

I didn't want you to respond to that, I wanted you to respond to the actual debate you claimed to be desperate to return to, but if you want to remain a tremulous, whinging milksop, cowering away from the light of information in your self-induced psychometric hovel of faith, denial and sticking your fingers in your ears and hoping reality will go away, so be it.

O.

[BashfulAnthony]

I didn't want you to respond to that, I wanted you to respond to the actual debate you claimed to be desperate to return to, but if you want to remain a tremulous, whinging milksop, cowering away from the light of information in your self-induced psychometric hovel of faith, denial and sticking your fingers in your ears and hoping reality will go away, so be it.

O.

I prefer "whingeing," to "whinging!"

There's nothing on this forum that induces  desperation in me, except perhaps your inept arguing!   

[Shaker]

That tortuous and foul-mouthed comment gets no other response from me  -  more than 80,000 adjectives in the English Language, and all you can come up with is an expletive to express yourself.  Says everything about your "debating skill."

The fact that you've trotted out, as though on a template, this same old "80,000 adjectives in English but you had to choose one that leaves me needing smelling salts" tripe no fewer than six times in a little over three weeks says everything about the lack of an original thought in your head.

[Outrider]

I prefer "whingeing," to "whinging!"

There's nothing on this forum that induces  desperation in me, except perhaps your inept arguing!   

Apart from the failed pedantry - both 'whinging' and 'whingeing' are acceptable spellings of the present participle of 'to whinge' - I note an abject lack of any attempt to return to the OP that you were so motivated to talk about... anything?

I'd suggest the current evidence suggests a desperation to get the last word...

O.

[BashfulAnthony]

The fact that you've trotted out, as though on a template, this same old "80,000 adjectives in English but you had to choose one that leaves me needing smelling salts" tripe no fewer than six times in a little over three weeks says everything about the lack of an original thought in your head.

Not at all, my foul-mouthed "friend."  It merely denotes the frequency with which it is necessary to make the point.  I'm flattered that you checked on the number of times,  though it is essentially a pathetic thing to do.

[Shaker]

Not at all, my foul-mouthed "friend."  It merely denotes the frequency with which it is necessary to make the point.

It isn't necessary at all. It isn't going to change anything, the administrator of the forum himself has told you (repeatedly) to give it a rest and it makes you look like a whiny-arsed prude who can't cope with robust everyday speech.

Still, your call ...

[BashfulAnthony]

It isn't necessary at all. It isn't going to change anything, the administrator of the forum himself has told you (repeatedly) to give it a rest and it makes you look like a whiny-arsed prude who can't cope with robust everyday speech.

Still, your call ...

How do you know that?  I suppose it's you who reports me, is it?   A rare piece of hypocrisy, then, from one so acerbic, confrontational, and crude as yourself.

[Shaker]

How do you know that?  I suppose it's you who reports me, is it?

Nope, I have never reported you once. As far as I'm aware Gord of the Board has stepped in to make a comment only once you've killed a thread by diverting it away from the subject to concentrate on your ad nauseam whining about the odd swear word here and there. As is happening all over again right here.

[BashfulAnthony]

Nope, I have never reported you once. As far as I'm aware Gord of the Board has stepped in to make a comment only once you've killed a thread by diverting it away from the subject to concentrate on your ad nauseam whining about the odd swear word here and there. As is happening all over again right here.

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The "odd" swear word??  You're joking.  If I followed your practice and bothered to count things up, it would take a heck of a long time to count them all.  I have Parliament on in the back-ground as I like to listen to the debates.  I've been doing it for years, and in all that time, despite the often heated arguments, I have never heard a swear word used!  So, they manage to argue and use some of the 80,000 plus adjectives in the English Language to make their points.  Makes you lot look so inept.  Don't forget to add that reference to adjectives to your list, if it makes you happy, or if you think it means anything!