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Donald Trump
« on: December 09, 2015, 08:52:34 AM »
I see that Labour and the SNP are calling oin a ban on Mr Trump entering the UK.  Is this the best way to indicate that we, as a nation, regard his views (and probably not merely on Muslims) - or anyone's opinions - as obnoxious?
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2015, 09:00:01 AM »
I see that Labour and the SNP are calling oin a ban on Mr Trump entering the UK.  Is this the best way to indicate that we, as a nation, regard his views (and probably not merely on Muslims) - or anyone's opinions - as obnoxious?

Trump is a nasty bigot and should be shunned by all right minded people! >:( He would probably start WW3, and drop a nuclear bomb or two, if he ever became President. >:( Surely only far right nutters would ever vote for him? >:(

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2015, 09:02:17 AM »
It's a good example of turnabout is fair play, I guess.

He ought to be barred from the country on acount of his ridiculous comb-over let alone his foul opinions.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2015, 09:31:48 AM »
I understand the desire to ban him, I understand the desire to call him out for his stupidity, but ultimately I think it's counterproductive.

Making him visibly objectionable to the mainstream is feeding into his attempt to woo the morons who might elect him. The best thing we can do is just stop talking about him - starve him of the oxygen of publicity and he'll disappear because ultimately he has nothing useful to say.

He has no actual policies, no real capacity to make good on any of the shit he spouts - he's a joke to garner attention. He's in it to garner attention for himself, and the Republican party are in it to show how 'moderate' they are compared to utter lunatic dingbats (and, from their point of view, he's paying his own way which is even better).

I'm a believer in free speech. If all he's doing is talking he should be allowed to go wherever he likes a say it, and we're perfectly free to just ignore him because he's demonstrating that he's an idiot.

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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2015, 09:35:02 AM »
What scares me is some of the Americans on various groups I belong to believe he is right, mind you an awful lot don't, but the ones who obviously follow him are scary people all round.

His followers have some very strange ideas, IMO.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2015, 09:37:02 AM »
Making him visibly objectionable to the mainstream is feeding into his attempt to woo the morons who might elect him. The best thing we can do is just stop talking about him - starve him of the oxygen of publicity
Could we not starve him of the oxygen of oxygen while we're at it?
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2015, 09:45:53 AM »
Could we not starve him of the oxygen of oxygen while we're at it?

One of the late great Linda Smith's, I believe?

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 09:46:50 AM »
Could we not starve him of the oxygen of oxygen while we're at it?

I wasn't advocating a method, just a goal - removing the atmosphere from a region in his immediate vicinity would stop the sound carrying to the microphone.... :)

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2015, 09:49:37 AM »
One of the late great Linda Smith's, I believe?
Yes, bless her  :(
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2015, 09:55:01 AM »
Yes, bless her  :(

How dare you use a phrase like "Bless her" you hypocritcal Antitheist. Just stop it now - you have no right to use that phrase. It belongs only to Christians. You should be ashamed of your stance on this. Please only use atheist language in future - otherwise your rampant stupidity will be on display for all to see.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 10:42:27 AM »
Trump is rich enough to act the goat on such a high profile stage & he is loving every moment of it. A bit like a nastier version of Kenny Everett & his "Let's Bomb Russia" speech from 1983.

No don't ban him, there are far more dangerous idiots than him & I don't want them being considered to be a joke.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2015, 10:54:01 AM »
He comes across to me as an American version of a Boris Johnson-like buffoon: the thing is that Boris is no buffoon, although he acts the part, and I suspect Trump is in the same mould - outright idiots don't usually have their own private jet.

It seems to me that his strategy mainly involves notoriety over viable politics, and it is certainly getting him noticed (since here we are posting about him).

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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2015, 12:22:58 PM »
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003

I have signed this petition banning Trump from entry to the UK.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2015, 02:07:33 PM »
How dare you use a phrase like "Bless her" you hypocritcal Antitheist. Just stop it now - you have no right to use that phrase. It belongs only to Christians. You should be ashamed of your stance on this. Please only use atheist language in future - otherwise your rampant stupidity will be on display for all to see.

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Trent, I think it might be exclusive to those of faith, but not merely to Christians.   ;)
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2015, 02:08:50 PM »
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114003

I have signed this petition banning Trump from entry to the UK.
I won't be because I hold to the principle that I might not agree with someone's opinions, but I will fight for their right to express it.
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2015, 02:15:44 PM »
I won't be because I hold to the principle that I might not agree with someone's opinions, but I will fight for their right to express it.

There are certain opinions like those of Trump which could lead to acts of terror!

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2015, 02:19:17 PM »
There are certain opinions like those of Trump which could lead to acts of terror!
And there are certain opinions that are expressed on this board that 'could' lead to acts of terror.  Are we going to stop people expressing them?
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2015, 02:21:21 PM »
And there are certain opinions that are expressed on this board that 'could' lead to acts of terror.  Are we going to stop people expressing them?

It depends what they are.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2015, 02:23:22 PM »
There are certain opinions like those of Trump which could lead to acts of terror!

Perhaps they could encourage acts of terror, but denying people the right to speak can equally encourage acts of terror - when ideas or concepts become unchallengable they are given free reign, and that's far, far worse.

You have to allow people the right to say what they will, and trust that the people who are listening are decent people and will recognise batshit-crazy stupidity when they come across it.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2015, 02:24:53 PM »
And there are certain opinions that are expressed on this board that 'could' lead to acts of terror.
Which ones?
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2015, 02:29:15 PM »
And there are certain opinions that are expressed on this board that 'could' lead to acts of terror.  Are we going to stop people expressing them?

Such as?

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2015, 02:40:55 PM »
Wonder if we'll ever find out, big G?

Bit remiss of you not to have picked up on these potentially terrorism-causing statements, I have to say.
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2015, 02:55:26 PM »
Wonder if we'll ever find out, big G?

Bit remiss of you not to have picked up on these potentially terrorism-causing statements, I have to say.

It's certainly a worry - I mean if MI5 (or is it 6) find out about this then, if Hope is right, collars here may yet be felt!

If 'they' are monitoring us, again assuming Hope is right, then any careless posting here could well mean spending Christmas in pokey.

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Re: Donald Trump
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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2015, 03:43:25 PM »
How dare you use a phrase like "Bless her" you hypocritcal Antitheist. Just stop it now - you have no right to use that phrase. It belongs only to Christians. You should be ashamed of your stance on this. Please only use atheist language in future - otherwise your rampant stupidity will be on display for all to see.

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Perhaps he can confine himself to such descriptions of Jesus as "the zombie on a stick, " which he has used on occasions.  Nice people you mix with, eh, Trent?
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