Donald Trump

[~TW~]

Yet, the other day the Met Police denied this story - again.  When did that change, ~TW~?

What may the other day be,also why would politicians admit parts of London are no go areas,keep em in the dark and they will be happy.
~TW~

[Spud]

I see that Labour and the SNP are calling oin a ban on Mr Trump entering the UK.  Is this the best way to indicate that we, as a nation, regard his views (and probably not merely on Muslims) - or anyone's opinions - as obnoxious?

It might be better to allow him to enter then throw eggs at him.

[Rhiannon]

http://tinyurl.com/hsv7j5q

[floo]

It might be better to allow him to enter then throw eggs at him.

What a wicked waste of eggs! Dog turds possibly. Seriously though, chucking anything at that very nasty piece of the proverbial would make the person carrying out that act as bad as him!

[Brownie]

Yes, I agree with you Floo.  No point in stooping to such measures, better to ignore him.  He's a prat.

[Bubbles]

Donald Trump: 'UK politicians should be thanking me'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-35060868


Heaven forbid the bloke should have to acknowledge he got it wrong.

 

Mr Trump responded: "The UK politicians should be thanking me."
And he added in a tweet: "The United Kingdom is trying hard to disguise their massive Muslim problem. Everybody is wise to what is happening. Very sad. Be honest."

Apparently the petition to ban him has reached 400,000 sigs and the ones not to 10,000.

 

[~TW~]

Donald Trump: 'UK politicians should be thanking me'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-35060868


Heaven forbid the bloke should have to acknowledge he got it wrong.

 

Apparently the petition to ban him has reached 400,000 sigs and the ones not to 10,000.

 

And if he became President Trump and if you and your silly petition which is a waste of time and also our politicians reject it out of hand,what would you do with President Trump ignore him.Somehow once again none of you seem to be thinking straight.

 ~TW~

[BashfulAnthony]

I'm not bothered if he comes or not.  You don't have to take any notice of him.  All this furore is the very thing he wants:  publicity.  Can't you see that?  I didn't hear all this righteous indignation when the Chinese Premier came recently;  and he is a severe abuser of human rights  -  but of course we want his money and business, so that's alright. 

[Bubbles]

And if he became President Trump and if you and your silly petition which is a waste of time and also our politicians reject it out of hand,what would you do with President Trump ignore him.Somehow once again none of you seem to be thinking straight.

 ~TW~

It not us!

It's not my petition and I haven't signed it.

If he became President I think it would be a total disaster, and I still wouldn't want him.

[jeremyp]

I'm not sure I follow the logic of this argument. Many acts of terrorism are carried out in countries where free speech exists.

My impression is that the terrorism is far worse in countries without proper free speech. Not allowing people to express themselves causes resentment which leads to hate and in extreme cases a desire to overthrow the status quo.

[jeremyp]

As regards Mr Trump his remarks about no go areas in London has been confirmed by the police as correct.Also when I drove a cab in London there were no go areas that the police would not enter in those days,so he is not all wrong.

 ~TW~

Total bollocks.

[Jack Knave]

My impression is that the terrorism is far worse in countries without proper free speech. Not allowing people to express themselves causes resentment which leads to hate and in extreme cases a desire to overthrow the status quo.

Not giving people a fair bite at the cherry and loading the dice against them is what really pisses them off. What is the point of free speech if the status quo of keeping them surreptitiously subjugated isn't changed?

[Bubbles]

This made me laugh this morning


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35059128P

Harrison Ford has told US Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump that his role as the US president in Air Force One was just "a movie".
Speaking to The New York Times recently, Trump praised Ford's role as a heroic president in the film.
He told the newspaper: "My favourite was Harrison Ford on the plane. I love Harrison Ford. He stood up for America".

  

[ProfessorDavey]

As regards Mr Trump his remarks about no go areas in London has been confirmed by the police as correct.Also when I drove a cab in London there were no go areas that the police would not enter in those days,so he is not all wrong.

 ~TW~

Remember Trump's remarks were in the context of terror threat and 'radicalised no go areas'. So TW can you tell me exactly where these 'radicalised no-go' areas are in London.

[Hope]

They had a discussion on this issue on BBC Breakfast earlier - I only caught the last couple of minutes - but one speaker seemed to be suggesting that the Americans needed the UK (or some other nation) to refuse Trump entry in order to get Republicans to understand that he isn't a viable candidate.  I realise that most Americans, of whatever political persuausion, are pretty dumb ( ), but this seems to be the one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard from an American.

[Hope]

Remember Trump's remarks were in the context of terror threat and 'radicalised no go areas'. So TW can you tell me exactly where these 'radicalised no-go' areas are in London.

PD, were his comments about no-go areas, etc. in London in the context of terrorist attacks - he originally made them 3 or 4 years ago, iirc.

[ProfessorDavey]

PD, were his comments about no-go areas, etc. in London in the context of terrorist attacks - he originally made them 3 or 4 years ago, iirc.

I'm asking where these supposed radicalised no-go areas are. And in particular to get TW to tell us where they are, as he seems to think they exist.

[Hope]

I'm asking where these supposed radicalised no-go areas are. And in particular to get TW to tell us where they are, as he seems to think they exist.

I realise that, I did the same back in my post #47.

[ProfessorDavey]

I realise that, I did the same back in my post #47.

Perhaps by us both asking we might get an answer.

And I am genuinely interested, because I spend a lot of my time in parts of London which might be high on that (mythical) list and I just want to check whether I'm not allowed to enter those areas

[Nearly Sane]

Perhaps by us both asking we might get an answer.

And I am genuinely interested, because I spend a lot of my time in parts of London which might be high on that (mythical) list and I just want to check whether I'm not allowed to enter those areas

Aren't these no go areas just no go for the police. As long as you or I wear a burqa, there would be no problem.

[Hope]

Perhaps by us both asking we might get an answer.

And I am genuinely interested, because I spend a lot of my time in parts of London which might be high on that (mythical) list and I just want to check whether I'm not allowed to enter those areas

I suppose I'm interested for much the same reason; my brother has lived in London for 30-odd years now and moved around the place a lot with the work he was doing.  I'm not aware that, as a white man, he ever found that he couldn't enter this or that area, or that the police could or couldn't.  OK, I suspect that there were areas that he would have felt wary of going into on his own after dark, but then there are places I'd be wary of in this context in Cardiff or Barry.

[ProfessorDavey]

Aren't these no go areas just no go for the police. As long as you or I wear a burqa, there would be no problem.

And where are these areas - because on my travels through areas that might be on this (mythical list) I often see police around - which clearly couldn't be the case were these no-go areas.

I'm usually in lycra and a fluorescent cycling jacket or in a suit, so clearly I wouldn't be welcome

[Rhiannon]

Some of these are completely and utterly brilliant.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/trump-facts#.smEwqVdzk

[Rhiannon]

And where are these areas - because on my travels through areas that might be on this (mythical list) I often see police around - which clearly couldn't be the case were these no-go areas.

I'm usually in lycra and a fluorescent cycling jacket or in a suit, so clearly I wouldn't be welcome

As I understand it, from reading the report the police are saying that there are areas where it is unwise to travel to work alone and in uniform. The Anglican Church issued a similar statement years ago warning priests about travelling in dog collars. But that doesn't mean the police don't go into these areas, or priests for that matter; nor does it mean that the threat only comes from radicalised Muslims.

[ProfessorDavey]

As I understand it, from reading the report the police are saying that there are areas where it is unwise to travel to work alone and in uniform. The Anglican Church issued a similar statement years ago warning priests about travelling in dog collars. But that doesn't mean the police don't go into these areas, or priests for that matter; nor does it mean that the threat only comes from radicalised Muslims.

And has that anything to do with islamic radicalisation, or rather really 'tough' areas where there is long-standing hostility towards the police - for example parts of Tottenham, which I don't think has a large muslim population at all.