Mother Teresa

[Walt Zingmatilder]

How about this Vlad the small gathering houses at Crematoriums, usually owned by the local councils and not church property, are working toward having all religious symbols put away into suitable storage places and only brought out where appropriate, like for instance at a Humanist' funeral all the religious symbols would be put away to respect the feelings of the mostly non-religious relatives.

This is on it's way Vlad I just thought you would like to know about the enlightened view, such as religious symbols brought out of storage when these rapidly diminishing parts of society are conducting one of their funerals.

I call that fair play for all because the rules are the same for all, Humanist or not, no one would be banned.

ippy 

   

I think that's fair enough. And I would imagine that no funeral directorship would be swayed in the service they provide by non sequiter propaganda like ''rapidly diminishing parts of society''. But that's decency for you.

[ippy]

I think that's fair enough. And I would imagine that no funeral directorship would be swayed in the service they provide by non sequiter propaganda like ''rapidly diminishing parts of society''. But that's decency for you.

Well Vlad I'm glad you could at least see that point; I was trying to describe secularism to you, banns don't come into the secularist equation, you really have misread the aims of secularism.

ippy

Couldn't help inserting the reminder, just couldn't resist it.

ippy 

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlunderingstupidity,

We know that Stalin also oppressed religion and ordered the removal of Christian symbols from visible places and ordered the bulldozers in. Only yesterday on the BBC was the Hill of Crosses in Soviet Russia discussed.

Yep.

Anybody therefore who advocates Freedom FROM religion and campaigns for the removal of Christian symbolism is Stalinist.

Nope. Desperate, desperate stupidity and a non sequitur to boot.

First, no-one is “campaigning for the removal of religious symbols”. The closest anyone comes so far as I’m aware is to argue for appropriate use and non-use according to the audience.

Second, “campaigning” for something is light years away from the brutal oppression and genocide of Stalinism. Anyone can campaign for anything – that does not make them Stalinists for doing it though.

Third, freedom from religion has nothing to do with separating those who are religious from their beliefs. All it involves is the rest of us not having to have any particular set of religious belief imposed on us.   

Just shoving a wiki which fails to mention this doesn't exonerate anyone supporting the removal of Christianity and it's symbols or indeed any religion of Stalinism.

Wiki doesn’t mention it because it’s entirely an invention of your fevered imagination and dull incomprehension. Again, even if anyone did "support" the removal of religious symbols, there would still be not one jot of a smidgin of an iota of a hint of Stalinism about that.

[Shaker]

I think that's fair enough. And I would imagine that no funeral directorship would be swayed in the service they provide by non sequiter propaganda like ''rapidly diminishing parts of society''. But that's decency for you.

Fair enough?

Fair enough?

You mean that crematoria temporarily removing crosses for non-religious funerals isn't sentimental anti-theistic philosophically naturalistic materialist Stalinism?

I need a lie down

[ippy]

Being as he was posh and educated, he would have referred to them as "Pollachius".

Of course, I have heard of that but at the time I thought Pollocks.

ippy