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Was Jesus gay?
« on: December 18, 2015, 12:15:52 PM »
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2015, 12:23:53 PM »
Quote from: Floo on December 18, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry where homosexuality is concerned.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?
Floo, this has been doing the rounds for decades - its nothing new.  What is possibly more important is the fact that he DIDN'T use homosexual relationships as a motif at any time.  Rather, when he used relationships as a motif, it was always the heterosexual form that he used.  Interestingly, that other big social issue - the place of women - was one he did often reference and act on.

As for whether such a discovery - something that has been being sought for over a century  - would make any difference to my faith, I doubt it - since sexuality isn't an issue that impacts on salvation.

 
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2015, 02:19:12 PM »
I get the impression that Jesus did have a sense of humour.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2015, 02:32:55 PM »
Quote from: Floo on December 18, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry where homosexuality is concerned.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2015, 06:23:21 PM »
Quote from: Floo on December 18, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
The gospel of John specifically mentions that there was a disciple whom Jesus loved, presumably male. As Jesus never condemned homosexuality, it is possible he was gay and enjoying a gay relationship with this particular disciple.

There is nothing wrong with being gay, it is NORMAL! If it could be proved Jesus was gay it would be a slap in the face to all the unpleasant bigots who use the Bible as an excuse for their nasty bigotry where homosexuality is concerned.

A question for the Christians on the forum, just supposing it could be established beyond all doubt that Jesus was a homosexual, would it make any difference to your faith?

No.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2015, 07:32:21 PM »
Quote from: Humph Warden Bennett on December 18, 2015, 02:19:12 PM
I get the impression that Jesus did have a sense of humour.
"Always look on the bright side of life...."
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2015, 08:16:49 PM »
What an abhorrent OP!
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2015, 08:53:47 PM »
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2015, 09:29:18 PM »
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2015, 09:51:34 PM »
Quote from: 2Corrie on December 18, 2015, 08:16:49 PM
What an abhorrent OP!
No it isn't, 2Corrie.  The idea has been doing the rounds for as long as I can remember (though when I first heard it, the term 'gay' wasn't commonly associated with homosexuality).  There have been a number of attempts to provide evidence, such as Floo's reference to 'a special disciple' but therte has never been any solid evidence.  Moreover, as I pointed out in an earlier post, he challenged plenty of other taboos and cultural mores in his teaching and his life - yet never that of homsexuality. 
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2015, 10:02:53 PM »
Don't recall Jesus did much to help the women of his time, eh ??????
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2015, 10:33:19 PM »
He was very supportive of women, liked them and numbered them amongst his friends.  He could hardly have women wandering around the country with him, as he did with his apostles, in a male dominant society (though I have no doubt the women of his time were strong, Jewish women are known to be so as a generalisation).  That would have caused scandal.

I have already answered that the possibility of Jesus being gay would not affect my faith one bit but it seems a bit pointless to speculate about his innate sexuality.  We'll never know for sure so why wonder?   It's pretty prurient to be nosey about anyone's sexuality, imo.  Character and personality are what matter.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2015, 10:38:07 PM »
OK So being gay has naff all to do with character & personality.
Are you serious ?!!?!?!??!? ::) ??? ???
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2015, 10:40:39 PM »
Individual sexuality is an integral part of each of us but if someone is honest, has a good moral compass, good to be with, sexuality doesn't come into it.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2015, 10:52:29 PM »
AAHHHH I get it now.
As long as we keep our sexuality 'secret' we're OK ???
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2015, 11:02:55 PM »
It's also quite possible to love someone in a platonic sense. I have a female friend that I have known since my teens (am now rapidly becoming one of the ancients) who I could say, I 'love' dearly.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2015, 11:33:24 PM »
Are you female or male-gay ???
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2015, 11:55:45 PM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on December 18, 2015, 11:33:24 PM
Are you female or male-gay ???

Trippy.... I'm a wee bitty tired and have used the wrong word! ::)

One of those... 'can't think of the word moments'!

It's ok, you won't be hearing any more from me tonight.... Izzz off to me bed.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2015, 08:34:28 AM »
AAH That's sweet, ok. Hope you had a good sleep & up ready for the next round ?!?!?! LOL
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2015, 08:55:16 AM »
Gay or straight I hope Jesus had a good consensual sex life.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2015, 11:51:40 AM »
Quote from: Brownie on December 18, 2015, 10:40:39 PM
Individual sexuality is an integral part of each of us but if someone is honest, has a good moral compass, good to be with, sexuality doesn't come into it.

I agree with Brownie on this one  :)

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2015, 11:54:04 AM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on December 18, 2015, 10:02:53 PM
Don't recall Jesus did much to help the women of his time, eh ??????

He bothered to speak to them, which many of that time didn't.

Plus he stopped the stoning of the woman for adultery, didn't he?

He acknowledged women, which was a big step in those days.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2015, 11:58:17 AM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on December 18, 2015, 10:52:29 PM
AAHHHH I get it now.
As long as we keep our sexuality 'secret' we're OK ???

No a persons sexuality is a personal thing.

Some people want to have it acknowledged by other people, others just want privacy.

A person can still make a valid point regardless of their personal sexuality.

If they don't hurt others, it isn't really other people's business.

Whoever Jesus was ( or is  ;) ) , that part of him is a private thing.

It wouldn't have been understood in the times he lived in, if he wanted privacy that's up to him 🌹

It doesn't take anything away from his teachings on how we should treat others, IMO.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2015, 10:42:08 PM »
Quote from: trippymonkey on December 18, 2015, 10:52:29 PM
AAHHHH I get it now.
As long as we keep our sexuality 'secret' we're OK ???

No, why would any of us keep our sexuality secret?  It just shouldn't be an issue imo.  No-one takes any notice of the fact that I am heterosexual, if they feel the need to judge me it will be on my character.   The same goes for homosexuals.  We are more than our sexual orientation.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2015, 12:23:49 AM »
I agree 2Corrie. Some have nothing better to do than suggest things about other people based on the stupidest reasons. I love my buddies, oh, then according to the author of this thread it's got to be sexual. Men in the Middle East still kiss each other, oh, then according to the author of this thread, that's evidence that all those men are gay. Perhaps one should mind their own sex life and quit making stunted suggestions about others.

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