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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #475 on: March 12, 2016, 11:47:15 AM »
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #476 on: March 12, 2016, 12:08:46 PM »
That's news to me.I'm basing your ignorance of these things on your statements, made within the past few days, that there is no gravity on any planet other than Earth and that without weighted spacesuits men on the moon would simply have floated off into space. Only someone massively, profoundly, insanely deluded about the most basic workings of nature would make such comments (and do so in public).

Your posts are semi-literate and incoherent babble at the best of times, which is why for the most part I ignore them, but I hadn't come across quite that nadir of jaw-dropping stupidity before.

Our gravity is completely different in that we can plant seed and they will remain planted and grow. What would happen on the moon if we tried to plant seeds?
Our gravity on our planet is different from the gravity on others. Light weight gases like oxygen etc remain in our atmosphere.
However the heavier gases would remain on planets which have a heavier bulk than ours.
What I do not understand is why the moon has gases like potassium and sodium which are not found in our earths atmosphere.
I find the more we look at the planets of our solar system there is still questions which need answering.
Especially, if such a thing as a big bang occurred. Why are the planets not all with the same gases and atmosphere?
We basically on earth have an atmosphere. The Moon apparently does not have an atmosphere.

The bigger the planet the more heavier gases they are likely to have. Earth is different from the larger and  the smaller planets.
So I feel correct in what I originally stated,. They do not have a gravity with an atmosphere able to sustain life, as ours does.
A life without the gravity we would not have. The sun and moon affect us but the other planets are within that same solar system. I might process things differently from others.  I might question things differently from others.
But that does not mean you can insult me for thinking beyond what is 'taught' by man and see it differently from others.

In my eyes no other planet has gravity like ours.
The order of planets closest to the sun are as follows:-

 1.Mercury, 2.Venus,3. Earth,4. Mars,5. Jupiter, 6.Saturn, 7.Uranus, 8.Neptune



These are the planets by size:-

 1.Jupiter, 2.Saturn,3. Uranus,4. Neptune,5. Earth,6. Venus,7. Mars, 8.Mercury.

It appears the only planet where oxygen is found is earth.

So if the way I see things make me look foolish then perhaps you wear goggles and blinkers.
But I see no other Planet with out oxygen or gravity with life.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #477 on: March 12, 2016, 12:10:39 PM »
That is a really STUPID comment Sass, even for you! :o

Nothing stupid about it. What is clearly shown by your comment is that your ignorance of God the bible and Christianity makes you make unfounded allegations and makes you look stupid to those who do know.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #478 on: March 12, 2016, 12:22:34 PM »
You have no idea how much we hold back at times. That IS compassion.

Spot on, Lennie.

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #479 on: March 12, 2016, 12:27:40 PM »
I saw something about how the moon kept the earth stable in its orbit, apparently if the moon wasn't there, the earth would wobble.

Interesting.
http://sciencenordic.com/what-would-we-do-without-moon

the amount of gravity a planet has is dependant on its mass, isn't it?

Isn't that universal?




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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #480 on: March 12, 2016, 12:36:52 PM »
Our gravity is completely different in that we can plant seed and they will remain planted and grow. What would happen on the moon if we tried to plant seeds?
Our gravity on our planet is different from the gravity on others. Light weight gases like oxygen etc remain in our atmosphere.
However the heavier gases would remain on planets which have a heavier bulk than ours.
What I do not understand is why the moon has gases like potassium and sodium which are not found in our earths atmosphere.
I find the more we look at the planets of our solar system there is still questions which need answering.
Especially, if such a thing as a big bang occurred. Why are the planets not all with the same gases and atmosphere?
We basically on earth have an atmosphere. The Moon apparently does not have an atmosphere.

The bigger the planet the more heavier gases they are likely to have. Earth is different from the larger and  the smaller planets.
So I feel correct in what I originally stated,. They do not have a gravity with an atmosphere able to sustain life, as ours does.
A life without the gravity we would not have. The sun and moon affect us but the other planets are within that same solar system. I might process things differently from others.  I might question things differently from others.
But that does not mean you can insult me for thinking beyond what is 'taught' by man and see it differently from others.

In my eyes no other planet has gravity like ours.
The order of planets closest to the sun are as follows:-

 1.Mercury, 2.Venus,3. Earth,4. Mars,5. Jupiter, 6.Saturn, 7.Uranus, 8.Neptune



These are the planets by size:-

 1.Jupiter, 2.Saturn,3. Uranus,4. Neptune,5. Earth,6. Venus,7. Mars, 8.Mercury.

It appears the only planet where oxygen is found is earth.

So if the way I see things make me look foolish then perhaps you wear goggles and blinkers.
But I see no other Planet with out oxygen or gravity with life.

Venus is the closest I believe, because it's mass is similar.

http://www.universetoday.com/35565/gravity-on-other-planets/

It just has an atmosphere that is poisonous to life ( as far as we know)

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I have heard it said that not only is the moon important to life on Earth but Jupiter also is because many meteorites/meteors end up crashing into it instead of the earth.

So I can see why someone could think all these things were arranged just so  :)
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #481 on: March 12, 2016, 12:38:14 PM »
Nothing stupid about it. What is clearly shown by your comment is that your ignorance of God the bible and Christianity makes you make unfounded allegations and makes you look stupid to those who do know.

Sass, your comments on the subject of religion are crazy, they always have been. If Jesus is around somewhere watching your daft antics, he is probably splitting his sides laughing!

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #482 on: March 12, 2016, 12:42:52 PM »
This is one area in which you and I part company Sass.  We must agree to differ.

Christ never did away with the teachings of the LAW and the Prophets, he upheld them.

If God said, " A man must not lie with a another man as he would with a woman" and a man does, is he showing obedience and therefore love for God. Or is he disobeying and so sinning showing no love for God?

So whilst we differ in opinion. The bible shows anyone who loves God does not do the things God tells them not.

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Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

True believers are born of Spirit and TRUTH. They worship God in Spirit and do not do the things against God.
Not everyone is born of the Spirit and truth.They believe and do miracles etc. We can be forgiven if we fall but on different note for example true Christian...

Do you think the priest who abused the children were Christians?
So they professed something with their mouths which they clearly DID NOT BELIEVE WITH THEIR HEARTS.
The actions of such calling themselves Christians were far from the heart of Christ and the love they should have had for God.

In the last days we were warned what would happen.

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3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

It is deceit to tell people they can be saved by believing in Christ but doing the things that are not showing love for God and his truth.

Believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God tells us to love one another. So whilst I am To love everyone... not just brothers and sisters in Christ.
So we love everyone and do not treat them differently. But can I love my friend who may believe in Christ but believes Gods love allows him to live a homosexual life if I allow them think that knowing it is untrue?

Gods spirit does not just lead and teach us, it enables us to stop sinning and knowing the things that hurt God and are not acceptable to him.

Christ warns...


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For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.


The righteousness of God comes through Christ... If homosexuality is a sin do you keep committing that sin?
If lying is a sin, do you keep on committing that sin. If thieving is a sin do you keep on stealing?

Even as sinners we fall sometimes...

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My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

We cannot pray for others about sin which leads to death.
We can only love others, tell them the truth and pray God will lead them to true salvation and love in Christ.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #483 on: March 12, 2016, 12:55:39 PM »

Especially, if such a thing as a big bang occurred. Why are the planets not all with the same gases and atmosphere?


It's good that you are trying to look into all this Sassy -so please do carry on. I wanted to ask though why you think the Big Bang would produce planets all the same though.

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #484 on: March 12, 2016, 01:06:09 PM »
I agree!

There are many times I want to let fly and tell certain posters exactly what I think of them, in terms which would probably get me banned for life! I polish my halo at the end of each day when I congratulate myself on how restrained I have been. ;D I fear that one day I will really lose it with one poster in particular, some days I get very close to doing so! :o

You do tell posters what you think of them, indeed you pounce on one in particular.  There is no restraint except that you do not use bad language but you don't use that anyway.  So no halo polishing for you.
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Maeght I too wonder why a big bang would result in planets all having the same gases and atmosphere - well they don't, so it didn't (if a big bang occurred).
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #485 on: March 12, 2016, 01:11:18 PM »
Our gravity is completely different in that we can plant seed and they will remain planted and grow. What would happen on the moon if we tried to plant seeds?
Our gravity on our planet is different from the gravity on others.

Unbelievable ignorance!

Have you heard of Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation (my emphasis)?
http://tinyurl.com/kfwjb3m

Also
http://tinyurl.com/ptjaq7t
x(∅ ∈ x ∧ ∀y(yxy ∪ {y} ∈ x))

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #486 on: March 12, 2016, 01:21:38 PM »
You do tell posters what you think of them, indeed you pounce on one in particular.  There is no restraint except that you do not use bad language but you don't use that anyway.  So no halo polishing for you.
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Maeght I too wonder why a big bang would result in planets all having the same gases and atmosphere - well they don't, so it didn't (if a big bang occurred).

My dear if I really said what I thought about one particular poster, then as I said I might be banned for life. I usually say nothing where that poster is concerned. As for Sass, she gives as good as she gets, and I make no apology for challenging her complete garbage!

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #487 on: March 12, 2016, 01:30:41 PM »
We all speak garbage at times floo.  When I read back I am sometimes appalled by my waffle.
Anyway, let's move on. 
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #488 on: March 12, 2016, 01:51:19 PM »
We all speak garbage at times floo.  When I read back I am sometimes appalled by my waffle.
Anyway, let's move on.

Good idea.  :)

I agree.

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #489 on: March 12, 2016, 02:43:53 PM »
My dear if I really said what I thought about one particular poster, then as I said I might be banned for life. I usually say nothing where that poster is concerned. As for Sass, she gives as good as she gets, and I make no apology for challenging her complete garbage!

That's not going to help the atmosphere in here though.  Not if posters imply they don't like other posters, leaving it open to speculation.

 :(

But Brownie is right, i dont suppose we'll all solve anything by attacking each other.



« Last Edit: March 12, 2016, 02:49:07 PM by Rose »

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #490 on: March 12, 2016, 03:25:05 PM »
Venus is the closest I believe, because it's mass is similar.

http://www.universetoday.com/35565/gravity-on-other-planets/

It just has an atmosphere that is poisonous to life ( as far as we know)

:)

I have heard it said that not only is the moon important to life on Earth but Jupiter also is because many meteorites/meteors end up crashing into it instead of the earth.

So I can see why someone could think all these things were arranged just so  :)

Rose, the last I heard of Venus was, the strong acids in it's atmosphere dissolved or corroded the Soviet lander to bits in under an hour some years ago, I'm not sure but I may have to check but I don't think that strong acid is much good for our lungs and also it might make your eyes water.

Give Wikki a go It's quite interesting.

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« Reply #491 on: March 12, 2016, 03:28:41 PM »
Rose, the last I heard of Venus was, the strong acids in it's atmosphere dissolved or corroded the Soviet lander to bits in under an hour some years ago, I'm not sure but I may have to check but I don't think that strong acid is much good for our lungs and also it might make your eyes water.

Give Wikki a go It's quite interesting.

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Yes, you are right, but life survives here in some very  inhospitable places, so I was just being cautious about if life could exist there.

( example from the link :If you wanted to kill something, or maybe just dispose of a body, you couldn’t do much better than the conditions in Yellowstone’s hot springs. The springs are near the boiling point of water and acidic enough to dissolve nails. But some microbes thrive there, and the pigments they produce give the springs vivid, otherworldly colors.)

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/top-ten-places-where-life-shouldnt-exist-but-does-144112310/

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #492 on: March 12, 2016, 07:01:05 PM »
Sometimes we take for granted that everyone knows that the gravity on planet earth is different from that through our solar system. 
Well there you go then.
Your original statement as written, and you do harp on about people not replying to what was written, indicated that on some other planet(s) in our solar system  - there is no gravity.
Now you are stating that they all have gravity. That is good, isn't It?
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #493 on: March 12, 2016, 07:07:53 PM »
:)

Yes, you are right, but life survives here in some very  inhospitable places, so I was just being cautious about if life could exist there.

( example from the link :If you wanted to kill something, or maybe just dispose of a body, you couldn’t do much better than the conditions in Yellowstone’s hot springs. The springs are near the boiling point of water and acidic enough to dissolve nails. But some microbes thrive there, and the pigments they produce give the springs vivid, otherworldly colors.)

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/top-ten-places-where-life-shouldnt-exist-but-does-144112310/

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Yes the under sea volcanic vents have something very similar, more than likely on Wikki.

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« Reply #494 on: March 12, 2016, 07:32:27 PM »
Yes the under sea volcanic vents have something very similar, more than likely on Wikki.

ippy

Wiki is ok, but this is better.

http://ocean.si.edu/ocean-videos/hydrothermal-vent-creatures


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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #495 on: March 15, 2016, 02:50:33 PM »
Well there you go then.
Your original statement as written, and you do harp on about people not replying to what was written, indicated that on some other planet(s) in our solar system  - there is no gravity.

I don't think that that was actually what she said though was it - to be fair? Sassy referred to gravity being different but don't remember here saying there wasn't any at all.

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #496 on: March 15, 2016, 03:28:57 PM »
Yes maeght, it is considerably less than earth, about 1/6 of earth's gravity iirc.

Rose March 12, 2.43: That's not going to help the atmosphere in here though.  Not if posters imply they don't like other posters, leaving it open to speculation.

True but no-one has to speculate if they don't want to.  I've never understood how people can actively dislike someone they don't know, never mind express it.  I do understand being a bit wary and avoiding a fellow poster - but we don't really know eachother that well, no matter how open we are about our lives and views.
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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #497 on: March 15, 2016, 03:30:34 PM »
I don't think that that was actually what she said though was it - to be fair? Sassy referred to gravity being different but don't remember here saying there wasn't any at all.

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #498 on: March 15, 2016, 05:12:30 PM »
Yes maeght, it is considerably less than earth, about 1/6 of earth's gravity iirc.

Yes, I know.

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Re: Was Jesus gay?
« Reply #499 on: March 15, 2016, 05:18:29 PM »
http://goo.gl/O72TGi

In the Sassy quote included by Sebastian Toe she didn't say no gravity, only different, and has elsewhere referred to the gravity on other planets. The apperent change suggested by the quote you include may be due to Sassy's somewhat unclear writting style or may be because she has since looked into it a bit more and realised she was wrong (not that she's ever admit that though), Either way she seems now to accept that the moon has gravity - so perhaps we should celebrate and encourage further such study and realisation.