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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2016, 02:03:14 PM »
So everything was very small, and then it got bigger?
Yes, including space-time.

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But it could only be measured on the inside, and if everything was very small, so were the measuring sticks.  So it would appear ginormous, from the inside.

Nope. Space-time is defined by gravity. Measuring sticks are defined by other forces, like electro-magnetic forces. Electro-magnetism is 1037 times stronger than gravity (this is why the entire mass of the Earth is too feeble to break your legs when you are standing on it) so measuring sticks tend to keep their length.

Even gravity itself can stop expansion in local areas if there is enough mass about, for example, galaxies and galaxy clusters.
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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2016, 02:06:06 PM »
People forget (or are unaware) because our lives seem dominated by it that compared to other fundamental forces gravity has a potentially infinite reach but is incredibly weak.
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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2016, 04:49:29 PM »
[So everything was very small, and then it got bigger?]
Yes, including space-time.
But bigger implies smaller but if space-time is all there is to define this then nothing has changed as there is nothing to compare it to to provide contrast in order to 'see' that it is bigger! Else there must be a point where it all began.  ;D

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Nope. Space-time is defined by gravity. Measuring sticks are defined by other forces, like electro-magnetic forces. Electro-magnetism is 1037 times stronger than gravity (this is why the entire mass of the Earth is too feeble to break your legs when you are standing on it) so measuring sticks tend to keep their length.

Even gravity itself can stop expansion in local areas if there is enough mass about, for example, galaxies and galaxy clusters.
Don't you mean mass?

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2016, 04:52:56 PM »
A question for all. If the strong force repels protons (and neutrons?) how do they stick together?

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2016, 04:56:02 PM »
A question for all. If the strong force repels protons (and neutrons?) how do they stick together?
It's actually the strong nuclear force that sticks them together - it's immensely powerful (comparatively speaking) but with a very, very short range.
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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2016, 05:09:10 PM »
It's actually the strong nuclear force that sticks them together - it's immensely powerful (comparatively speaking) but with a very, very short range.
So there's the weak force, the strong force and then the strong nuclear force, yeah?

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2016, 05:11:59 PM »
So there's the weak force, the strong force and then the strong nuclear force, yeah?
No - the four fundamental forces are the strong nuclear force (also known as the strong interaction) the weak nuclear force (... weak interaction), electromagnetism and gravity.
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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2016, 05:23:00 PM »
No - the four fundamental forces are the strong nuclear force (also known as the strong interaction) the weak nuclear force (... weak interaction), electromagnetism and gravity.
So which force repels protons from each other?

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2016, 05:25:52 PM »
So which force repels protons from each other?
Electromagnetism - this is about as simple an explanation as it gets:

http://goo.gl/tJPpcz
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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2016, 07:42:26 PM »
So which force repels protons from each other?
Some are theist and some are antitheist.

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2016, 07:53:27 PM »
Some are theist and some are antitheist.
And the neutrons are the atheists.

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2016, 11:10:29 AM »

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2016, 11:22:44 AM »

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Re: 0.0.0.0. For The Big Bang...?
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2016, 11:27:18 AM »
Too complicated for my old brain!  :(

Probably only needed the first two words there, Leonard. I wouldn't claim any deep understanding.