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Re: Fixing the date of Easter
« Reply #125 on: January 24, 2016, 12:07:56 PM »
The question again: If John had wanted to say, "it was the Friday of the passover week", how would he have written it?

I want the whole sentence translated into Greek, please.
What does it matter? He didn't say that, he said "it was the day of Preparation for Passover" (except he said it in Greek, of course).
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Re: Fixing the date of Easter
« Reply #126 on: January 24, 2016, 12:11:04 PM »
The question again: If John had wanted to say, "it was the Friday of the passover week", how would he have written it?

I want the whole sentence translated into Greek, please.

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Re: Fixing the date of Easter
« Reply #127 on: January 24, 2016, 12:24:02 PM »
What does it matter? He didn't say that, he said "it was the day of Preparation for Passover" (except he said it in Greek, of course).

It matters because if he had said "Friday of Passover week" it would be written, "Paraskeví [Friday] tou [of] Páscha [Passover] evdomádas [week]", according to google translate.

If Passover week is abbreviated to just "Passover", you get exactly what John wrote, in the Greek.

If you type into google translate, "day of preparation for Passover" you get something quite different.
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Re: Fixing the date of Easter
« Reply #128 on: January 24, 2016, 08:37:49 PM »
It matters because if he had said "Friday of Passover week" it would be written, "Paraskeví [Friday] tou [of] Páscha [Passover] evdomádas [week]", according to google translate.

If Passover week is abbreviated to just "Passover", you get exactly what John wrote, in the Greek.

If you type into google translate, "day of preparation for Passover" you get something quite different.

So Google Translate trumps actual scholars. Right. Desperate measures I suppose.
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Re: Fixing the date of Easter
« Reply #129 on: January 24, 2016, 09:14:32 PM »
Are you stupid or dishonest?  Of course he wouldn't say it in English.
I was simply pointing the fact that far too many people here seem to assume that the words you and I read in the Bible, or Caesar's Commentaries on the Gallic Wars, etc. are the original ones - and that we can therefore use them within a debate about meaning, etc.

Very often the original Latin/Koine Greek/or whatever had subtlely (or not so subtlely) different connotations.
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Re: Fixing the date of Easter
« Reply #130 on: January 24, 2016, 10:03:13 PM »
I was simply pointing the fact that far too many people here seem to assume that the words you and I read in the Bible, or Caesar's Commentaries on the Gallic Wars, etc. are the original ones - and that we can therefore use them within a debate about meaning, etc.

Very often the original Latin/Koine Greek/or whatever had subtlely (or not so subtlely) different connotations.

It's not often that a Christian admits they can't be certain why the Bible says.
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Re: Fixing the date of Easter
« Reply #131 on: January 25, 2016, 09:07:14 AM »
So Google Translate trumps actual scholars. Right. Desperate measures I suppose.
It would be a bit like saying, "it was Friday of half-term". I agree with you though that inserting the word "week" into the translation is not good practice.