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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2016, 11:51:56 AM »
Instead of threatening others, maybe TW should consider his own behaviour which brings Christianity into disrepute. He might be the one getting a tan in the fiery furnace! ;D

He'll be alright. His thick skin will protect him for a while.

Any bets on just how long?
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2016, 12:36:51 PM »
How very indicative! T&W are the first two letters of TWADDLE.  ;D

Or Twit.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2016, 12:41:08 PM »
You've posted ~TW~ and no mention of the flood or creation?

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2016, 12:47:32 PM »
Instead of threatening others, maybe TW should consider his own behaviour which brings Christianity into disrepute. He might be the one getting a tan in the fiery furnace! ;D

Really floo lets look at what I have said and show you are a joke .God uses evil to destroy evil. Example Evil Babylonians sent to destroy Evil disobedient Israel.

 Christians turn the other cheek but now ask   10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”  So we have Christians seeking revenge.God replies  11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. With God clearly using Satan  {scriptures can be provided} to bring Judgement on the world as we run up to the last day and with Gods anger hardening the hearts of people like you Floo,        Satan is your king and he awaits you soon in hell.

 The sands of time are running out and you are a lost soul.

    27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”


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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2016, 12:55:23 PM »
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With God clearly using Satan  {scriptures can be provided} to bring Judgement on the world as we run up to the last day,in the  form of Death,sickness,famine,wars,also hardening the hearts of un-believers,the day of Grace fading the prospect of knowing you have been used by Satan and he loves his  victims of un-belief and also hates you all his servants very much.

With confirmation bias like that, who needs evidence?

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Well lets have a look at the twaddle from today's un-believing world

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3407270/Shocking-moment-journalist-attacked-migrants-Calais-Jungle.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/news/article-3407234/Worried-state-world-economy-s-prepare-new-crisis.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3407757/Scandal-indie-music-world-CEO-management-group-forced-resign-female-musicians-accuse-sexual-misconduct.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3406204/Relatives-lose-contact-three-London-schoolgirls-fled-Syria.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3407654/British-man-Marco-Bulmer-Rizzi-banned-dead-husband-s-funeral-arrangements-Australia.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3407533/Hunt-s-2bn-offer-stop-GP-revolt-Health-Secretary-promises-cut-paperwork-ease-workload-scale-inspections-ahead-crisis-meeting-senior-doctors.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3407556/Blackmail-Fury-EU-tells-Britain-Agree-quote-migrants-barred-deporting-thousands.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3407679/Mr-Cameron-stop-vile-witch-hunts-against-brave-troops-former-Armed-Forces-minister-s-Winston-Churchill-s-grandson-blistering-call-arms.html

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/636266/Jihadi-Sid-s-benefit-scrounger-pals-boast-of-Sharia-UK-and-being-paid-by-YOU-to-spout-bile

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/636169/Norway-warns-Brexit-WON-T-free-us-from-EU-meddling

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/635942/Islam-Scholar-Saud-Saleh-Cairo-Slavery-Muslim-Women-Pagan-ISIS-Al-Azhar-University-Egypt?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain

Bad things happen therefore God wants you all to suffer for not believing in the right unevidenced assertions... Does that really come across to you as more likely than 'bad things happen, therefore the universe is not built to make us happy'?

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20 The rest of mankind, who were not killed by these plagues, did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not cease to worship demons, and idols of gold, silver, brass, stone, and wood, which cannot see nor hear nor walk. 21 Nor did they repent of their murders or their magical arts or their sexual immorality or their thefts

Past tense? This has already happened, yet here we are. If it didn't work last time, why would it work this time?

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Really floo lets look at what I have said and show you are a joke .God uses evil to destroy evil. Example Evil Babylonians sent to destroy Evil disobedient Israel.

Is that on Netflix?

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Christians turn the other cheek but now ask   10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”  So we have Christians seeking revenge.God replies  11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. With God clearly using Satan  {scriptures can be provided} to bring Judgement on the world as we run up to the last day and with Gods anger hardening the hearts of people like you Floo,        Satan is your king and he awaits you soon in hell.

But Gandalf warned: "Do not trifle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." And it must be true, because Elric said it, as well, in Babylon 5!

Rather than spending your time telling people they are going to hell in an afterlife for which there is no evidence, try just enjoying the life you have a decent reason for suspecting that you do have.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2016, 01:17:17 PM »
TW, who are you to tell unbelievers what is going to happen to them?  Your OP stinks of judgementalism.  Not one of us knows another's fate and you are extremely arrogant to think you do. 

For some, there is Hell on earth already, do you believe God will punish them all over again, for eternity if not infinity?

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2016, 01:56:10 PM »
TW, who are you to tell unbelievers what is going to happen to them?  Your OP stinks of judgementalism.  Not one of us knows another's fate and you are extremely arrogant to think you do. 

For some, there is Hell on earth already, do you believe God will punish them all over again, for eternity if not infinity?

Read your bible brownie  I am not telling anyone,if there is no God you are in the clear ............If.  :)
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2016, 02:00:14 PM »
With confirmation bias like that, who needs evidence?

Bad things happen therefore God wants you all to suffer for not believing in the right unevidenced assertions... Does that really come across to you as more likely than 'bad things happen, therefore the universe is not built to make us happy'?

Past tense? This has already happened, yet here we are. If it didn't work last time, why would it work this time?

Is that on Netflix?

But Gandalf warned: "Do not trifle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." And it must be true, because Elric said it, as well, in Babylon 5!

Rather than spending your time telling people they are going to hell in an afterlife for which there is no evidence, try just enjoying the life you have a decent reason for suspecting that you do have.

O.

Outrider or is it crashed rider whatever it is Hell is waiting for un-believers and that I believe puts you in the  Q your choice.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #33 on: January 20, 2016, 02:03:48 PM »
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I believe puts you in the  Q your choice.

Q - wasn't he a great character in Star Trek - TNG.

A bit god like.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2016, 02:12:51 PM »
Outrider or is it crashed rider whatever it is Hell is waiting for un-believers and that I believe puts you in the  Q your choice.

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Can you hear that? That's the sound of my knees completely failing to knock together in fear at the cartoon horror story you suggest is awaiting in an unevidenced and logically nonsensical afterlife.

If you want to encourage people to be better people then:

a) come up with a system of morality that's more discerning than 'do what barbaric people tried to impose on their tribes'

b) encourage people to be good for its own merits rather than out of fear of punishment

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2016, 02:18:25 PM »
Can you hear that? That's the sound of my knees completely failing to knock together in fear at the cartoon horror story you suggest is awaiting in an unevidenced and logically nonsensical afterlife.

If you want to encourage people to be better people then:

a) come up with a system of morality that's more discerning than 'do what barbaric people tried to impose on their tribes'

b) encourage people to be good for its own merits rather than out of fear of punishment

O.

 ok  :) but hell waits now be a good boy,good people do not go to heaven.so nothing changes.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2016, 02:34:01 PM »
Really floo lets look at what I have said and show you are a joke .God uses evil to destroy evil. Example Evil Babylonians sent to destroy Evil disobedient Israel.

 Christians turn the other cheek but now ask   10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”  So we have Christians seeking revenge.God replies  11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were, was completed. With God clearly using Satan  {scriptures can be provided} to bring Judgement on the world as we run up to the last day and with Gods anger hardening the hearts of people like you Floo,        Satan is your king and he awaits you soon in hell.

 The sands of time are running out and you are a lost soul.

    27 “Then he said, ‘I beg you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, lest they also come to this place of torment.’ 29 Abraham said to him, ‘They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 But he said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.’”


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You have a very sick version of faith, TW! >:(

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2016, 02:42:50 PM »
ok  :) but hell waits now be a good boy,good people do not go to heaven.so nothing changes.

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So heaven will just be filled with all the cunts then

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2016, 03:16:48 PM »
Sorry to have upset all of you but you are all guilty of blaspheming God and so a warning from scripture to tell you it has not gone un noticed,by the one who sees all I am being kind to to you.

 Maybe some of you might escape hell but I think on the evidence you have more chance of winning the lottery  :) or finding alien space men.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #39 on: January 20, 2016, 03:18:30 PM »
Sorry to have upset all of you but you are all guilty of blaspheming God and so a warning from scripture to tell you it has not gone un noticed,by the one who sees all I am being kind to to you.

 Maybe some of you might escape hell but I think on the evidence you have more chance of winning the lottery  :) or finding alien space men.

    ~TW~

Do people run away from you in the streets?
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2016, 03:23:08 PM »
I think this is just the response TW was looking for. Why? I have no idea.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2016, 03:25:02 PM »
Sorry to have upset all of you but you are all guilty of blaspheming God and so a warning from scripture to tell you it has not gone un noticed,by the one who sees all I am being kind to to you.

 Maybe some of you might escape hell but I think on the evidence you have more chance of winning the lottery  :) or finding alien space men.

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Not upset at all, I find you vaguely remiscent of this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8k7VoFiagfs


So quite entertaining

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2016, 03:32:06 PM »
ok  :) but hell waits now be a good boy,good people do not go to heaven.so nothing changes. ~TW~

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2016, 03:46:23 PM »
Sorry to have upset all of you but you are all guilty of blaspheming God and so a warning from scripture to tell you it has not gone un noticed,by the one who sees all I am being kind to to you.

 Maybe some of you might escape hell but I think on the evidence you have more chance of winning the lottery  :) or finding alien space men.

    ~TW~

When are you going to learn that the god that you hold so dear is despised and hated by most people - and not just those on this forum - as a barbaric, vindictive, sadistic, tyranical arsehole and you, my friend (NOT), are quite clearly incapable of independant thought in, one, believing that the bible is anything other than a work of 2,000 year old Chinese Whispers and two, believing your god to be otherwise.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2016, 03:48:44 PM »
When are you going to learn that the god that you hold so dear is despised and hated by most people - and not just those on this forum - as a barbaric, vindictive, sadistic, tyranical arsehole and you, my friend (NOT), are quite clearly incapable of independant thought in, one, believing that the bible is anything other than a work of 2,000 year old Chinese Whispers and two, believing your god to be otherwise.

I just don't believe in it, saves the effort of all that hating and despising

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2016, 03:55:53 PM »
I just don't believe in it, saves the effort of all that hating and despising

Sums my position up pretty much.

I'm saving all my hatred for the remake of "Birds of a Feather".

Now there's a question:

Why on Earth did God allow this to happen?
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2016, 04:00:40 PM »
Sums my position up pretty much.

I'm saving all my hatred for the remake of "Birds of a Feather".

Now there's a question:

Why on Earth did God allow this to happen?

Because he's an unfeeling and stupid bastard?
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2016, 04:08:05 PM »
Sums my position up pretty much.

I'm saving all my hatred for the remake of "Birds of a Feather".

Now there's a question:

Why on Earth did God allow this to happen?
i'm splurging my hatred on the Bowie tribute band at the Brits

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2016, 04:08:25 PM »
When are you going to learn that the god that you hold so dear is despised and hated by most people - and not just those on this forum - as a barbaric, vindictive, sadistic, tyranical arsehole

Here is the challenge, TW; to help people understand why this statement is wrong.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2016, 04:15:14 PM »
I just don't believe in it, saves the effort of all that hating and despising

That's very good.  I was just thinking, what an effort to summon up any animosity, when in fact, it's just boring. 
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