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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #175 on: January 26, 2016, 01:42:54 PM »
I heard we could face an energy crisis a few years ago,I thought well maybe the powers that be will sort it,today we are told not sorted=downhill de-creation. Also another 33 now claim the winning lottery ticket more evidence of God-less people who love lies and scams all hell bound,goats could it be with hardened hearts.

 So true Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever, also the EU say we must print the word fish on fish products and for those of you who cannot think a packet of peanuts contains nuts.

 Another myth is evolution but it is a get out of jail card worth holding on to at least it takes your mind off hell.

    ~TW~

I see you're still away with the fairies as ever ~Tw________

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #176 on: January 26, 2016, 02:27:32 PM »
In a way, though, your 'faith' or 'belief', or whatever it is still shows that you need some invisible something behind the world as it is (as Shaker says, no need to call it the 'natural' world), , and that you have one , imagined, layer between you and reality.  Why is that, do you think?

Reality, that is, as it is seen as clearly as it can be by scientists etc who study it, and by all those, since the very earliest atheist - oh, how I'd love to have met him/her - probably the latter!! - who knew there was no invisible something.   

#152 'pagan deities'? Surely this should be 'imagined' deities? And by the  way, this is not a 'dig' at you, I have been intending to write this thought at pagans in general for some time.

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"I have been intending to write this thought at pagans in general"
as there are only two of us on this Forum and we follow vastly different paths. I am the only one who recognises pagan deities.

You can call my deities whatever you like. Call them Chalk and Cheese, Mutt and Jeff, Sassy and Hope for all I care - it matters not one iota to me - the same comment, however, needs to be applied, by you, to the deities of Christianity and all other religions.

I can just imagine the kind of response you would get when telling Ad_O that his god is imaginary!

I have said before but will say it again, my deities are as real to me as are my hands and feet and are as useful. What my deities are to you is no matter to me, only to you.

You don't like it that way - tough! It works for me.

   
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #177 on: January 26, 2016, 02:32:04 PM »
I will ignore thei  as there are only two of us on this Forum and we follow vastly different paths. I am the only one who recognises pagan deities.

You can call my deities whatever you like. Call them Chalk and Cheese, Mutt and Jeff, Sassy and Hope for all I care - it matters not one iota to me - the same comment, however, needs to be applied, by you, to the deities of Christianity and all other religions.

I can just imagine the kind of response you would get when telling Ad_O that his god is imaginary!

I have said before but will say it again, my deities are as real to me as are my hands and feet and are as useful. What my deities are to you is no matter to me, only to you.

You don't like it that way - tough! It works for me.

 

While I disagree with the whole imaginary idea, see earlier posts, Susan has and does apply that comment to all gods.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #178 on: January 26, 2016, 02:51:03 PM »
While I disagree with the whole imaginary idea, see earlier posts, Susan has and does apply that comment to all gods.

No problem then!

I have, on here, rather got used to almost all comments with regard to my deities and my beliefs being by way of someone taking the piss no matter how the comment is couched.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #179 on: January 26, 2016, 03:40:43 PM »
Is it really true, there are only TWO pagans on this forum? Off the top I can count four of them.  Or was somebody not thinking before they posted, yet again?

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #180 on: January 26, 2016, 03:44:38 PM »
Is it really true, there are only TWO pagans on this forum? Off the top I can count four of them.  Or was somebody not thinking before they posted, yet again?

I think it means there are only 2 known currently posting with any frequency.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #181 on: January 26, 2016, 03:52:45 PM »
Is it really true, there are only TWO pagans on this forum? Off the top I can count four of them.  Or was somebody not thinking before they posted, yet again?
Owlswing and Rhiannon post very regularly; there's also horsethorn but he's not posting at present (unfortunately). Can't immediately call to mind any others.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #182 on: January 26, 2016, 03:55:53 PM »
Your missing one that I know of. Keeping thinking Shaker.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #183 on: January 26, 2016, 03:56:21 PM »
Your missing one that I know of. Keeping thinking Shaker.
Nope - that's the only three I know of.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #184 on: January 26, 2016, 04:00:27 PM »
Well, that is true, and it is true you are missing one. Keep thinking.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #185 on: January 26, 2016, 04:01:43 PM »
Well, that is true, and it is true you are missing one. Keep thinking.
You seem to be having inordinate difficulty with written English today, even more so than usual.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #186 on: January 26, 2016, 04:02:36 PM »
Well, that is true, and it is true you are missing one. Keep thinking.

Oh it's you being coy. You playful little scamp.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #187 on: January 26, 2016, 04:06:11 PM »
You seem to be having inordinate difficulty with written English today, even more so than usual.

If there is a fourth I cannot see any posts to the Pagan Topic and have never seen anyone else stick their neck out and claim to be Pagan anywhere else!


MR/MRS/MISS/MS 4th Pagan please identify yourself.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #188 on: January 26, 2016, 04:11:14 PM »
I'm going to wait and see if she reads this and clues you two in.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #189 on: January 26, 2016, 04:12:56 PM »
Well that narrows it down to a Mrs, Miss or Ms. Any ideas, Owly?
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #190 on: January 26, 2016, 04:25:10 PM »
Well that narrows it down to a Mrs, Miss or Ms. Any ideas, Owly?

No! And considering who you are answering, it is probably just another wind-up due to a serious misinterpretation of exctly what a Pagan is or is not.

Forget it, I can't be bothered play silly games.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #191 on: January 26, 2016, 04:25:42 PM »
Good point.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #192 on: January 26, 2016, 04:36:02 PM »
The last two pagans to post aside from ht, Owlswing and myself are Angry Keltoi and The Stranger. Neither have posted for a couple of years or thereabouts, sadly.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #193 on: January 26, 2016, 05:02:39 PM »
The last two pagans to post aside from ht, Owlswing and myself are Angry Keltoi and The Stranger. Neither have posted for a couple of years or thereabouts, sadly.

Well canoe is pretending to know of a fourth.

But then, right from the beginning it occurred to me (as it did to Owlswing) that if canoe was capable of naming names, it would be somebody who isn't in fact a pagan at all, given that his knowledge of the subject could be written on a gnat's toenails with room to spare for the Gettysburg Address and Eskimo Nell.
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« Reply #194 on: January 26, 2016, 05:07:33 PM »
No, he's an expert. He's watched at least ten YouTube videos on the subject.  ::)

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #195 on: January 26, 2016, 05:15:38 PM »
No, he's an expert. He's watched at least ten YouTube videos on the subject.  ::)
Some of them with the sound on

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #196 on: January 26, 2016, 06:56:15 PM »
It is similar to other artifacts - later ones, found at sites known to be places of pagan worship.
Pagan worship of your gods? Can you demonstrate an unbroken chain?

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Let's face it, if the description is properly applied ALL religions prior to the arrival of Christianity (not Christ - he was a Jew - Christianity) were pagan. Regardless of how far back, any deity dated prior to about 100CE was pagan and pre-dates Christianity.

Do you have any evidence that the gods of your religion date that far back?

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Christians can wriggle and squirm and argue definitions but it does not change the fact that pagan deities pre-date the johnny-come-lately Christianity.

But not necessarily your pagan deities.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #197 on: January 26, 2016, 09:49:38 PM »
Pagan worship of your gods? Can you demonstrate an unbroken chain?

Do you have any evidence that the gods of your religion date that far back?

But not necessarily your pagan deities.

When you can come up with arguments against the antiquity of Pagan belief and deities that have been done to death a hundred times over to people who just will not listen because to do so would expose the comical lack of any iota of solid evidence for their belief in the Creation, the Flood and the Resurrection other than the Book of Chinese Whispers. When you do come up with such evidence I might, I only say might, bother responding.

After all, if you cannot produce evidence for your beliefs, why the Devil should I be required to do likewise.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #198 on: January 26, 2016, 11:38:07 PM »
When you can come up with arguments against the antiquity of Pagan belief and deities that have been done to death a hundred times over to people who just will not listen because to do so would expose the comical lack of any iota of solid evidence for their belief in the Creation, the Flood and the Resurrection other than the Book of Chinese Whispers. When you do come up with such evidence I might, I only say might, bother responding.

After all, if you cannot produce evidence for your beliefs, why the Devil should I be required to do likewise.

What beliefs does jeremyp have? Again I would suggest you deal with the questions to you rather than try erroneous tu quoques, this being at least the second time in a day.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #199 on: January 26, 2016, 11:48:49 PM »
What beliefs does jeremyp have? Again I would suggest you deal with the questions to you rather than try erroneous tu quoques, this being at least the second time in a day.


I have explained my beliefs before - if Jeremy can't be bothered to read what I posted - his problem not mine! I am fed up with answering the same questions again and again as people hope that I am going to contradict myself.

And W T F is "tu quiques" - I speak English - I suggest that you do the same rather than using a dead language in order to boost your ego at the cost of mine; me who did Latin in First Year at Grammar School in 1957 and thge only bit I can remeber is quite aposite to many posters on this forum - Non illigitamus carborundum
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