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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #250 on: January 27, 2016, 06:05:28 PM »


Hello and good day to the goats/hell bound club.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #251 on: January 27, 2016, 06:45:45 PM »
No, modern pagans will often follow deities from a mix of pantheons, or choose an ancient pantheon to work with. There's no reason at all to believe Owlswing on this one.
But you don't know anything about those ancient pantheons. There's no tradition going back to those times that you can point to.

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In fact this mixing of deities from different places  has always been going on. There's archaeological evidence for it in abundance in this country from the Romano-British period, and much of the Christian church's understanding of Jesus Christ originated in the mind of a Hellenised Jew.
I agree with all of that. Christianity itself is a syncretism of Greek Mystery religions with the Judaic religion.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #252 on: January 27, 2016, 06:48:41 PM »
JeremyP seems to be another who thinks all about paganism, when, in fact, he knows fuck all about paganism.


Everybody knows "fuck all" about paganism as practised around the first century CE except for the obvious Greco-Roman and Egyptian pantheons. Pretty much everything else is lost because their practitioners didn't write things down.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #253 on: January 27, 2016, 06:57:22 PM »
Everybody knows "fuck all" about paganism as practised around the first century CE except for the obvious Greco-Roman and Egyptian pantheons. Pretty much everything else is lost because their practitioners didn't write things down.

I'd argue that even for the 'obvious' it's not that clear.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #254 on: January 27, 2016, 07:52:59 PM »

But you don't know anything about those ancient pantheons. There's no tradition going back to those times that you can point to.


We can read you know! We just go to any library, I go to the British Library and can read all about "thise ancient pantheons".
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #255 on: January 27, 2016, 07:57:50 PM »
Everybody knows "fuck all" about paganism as practised around the first century CE except for the obvious Greco-Roman and Egyptian pantheons. Pretty much everything else is lost because their practitioners didn't write things down.

No they built temples with statues of the Gods and Goddesses and friezes showing their rituals etc.

Your protestations about our (Rhi's and my) ignorance of the history our religious beliefs only go to demontrate that your ignorance of the subject exceeds our by several powers of magnitude.

But please keep posting. I need the laughs.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #256 on: January 27, 2016, 09:27:22 PM »
No they built temples with statues of the Gods and Goddesses and friezes showing their rituals etc.

But you don't know what they really believed, do you.

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Your protestations about our (Rhi's and my) ignorance of the history our religious beliefs only go to demontrate that your ignorance of the subject exceeds our by several powers of magnitude.

No, I think your inability to confront the fact that our knowledge of these pagan beliefs is fragmentary at best is a symptom of your failure to deal with reality.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #257 on: January 28, 2016, 07:30:51 AM »
But you don't know what they really believed, do you.

No, I think your inability to confront the fact that our knowledge of these pagan beliefs is fragmentary at best is a symptom of your failure to deal with reality.

Reality?

JeremyP whose reality? Yours?

We don't need to accept yours, we can go out and find out for ourselves.

Your knowledge is fragmentary, it doesn't mean others can't have found out or studied things you haven't.


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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #258 on: January 28, 2016, 07:38:49 AM »
« Last Edit: January 28, 2016, 07:48:59 AM by Rose »

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #259 on: January 28, 2016, 09:36:19 AM »
Reality?

JeremyP whose reality? Yours?

We don't need to accept yours, we can go out and find out for ourselves.

Your knowledge is fragmentary, it doesn't mean others can't have found out or studied things you haven't.

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An interesting statement, "we", are you, by any chance, Johnny Canoe's fourth pagan? Or are you just someone interested in history.
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #260 on: January 28, 2016, 09:37:29 AM »
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #261 on: January 28, 2016, 12:44:25 PM »
Interesting programme last night looking at how Stonehenge has been interpretted over the generations, often in ways to reflect the favoured theme of the person doing the interpretation. Funny to see the old clips where people said 'we now know ....' for things which we now say aren't correct, or at least aren't likely.

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« Reply #262 on: January 28, 2016, 01:21:31 PM »
Rose

Quote - We don't need to accept yours, we can go out and find out for ourselves. - Unquote

An interesting statement, "we", are you, by any chance, Johnny Canoe's fourth pagan? Or are you just someone interested in history.


Just someone who is interested.

The "we" meant anyone who doesn't share the  same reality  as JeremyP. ;)




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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #263 on: January 28, 2016, 04:11:29 PM »
How very indicative! T&W are the first two letters of TWADDLE.  ;D
And Leonard James is an anagram of "lemonade jars".
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #264 on: January 28, 2016, 08:23:15 PM »
And Leonard James is an anagram of "lemonade jars".
This is a good game can anyone play?

.. Alien is an anagram of 'I lean'.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #265 on: January 28, 2016, 08:41:34 PM »
This is a good game can anyone play?

.. Alien is an anagram of 'I lean'.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #266 on: January 28, 2016, 10:10:38 PM »
Erm ... K hears.

Sorry, best I can do  :-[

Or H. K. Arse  :D
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #267 on: January 28, 2016, 10:14:10 PM »
I just put my username through an anagram generator but as the only one that makes sense is a bit rude I'm not repeating it.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #268 on: January 28, 2016, 10:16:25 PM »
I just put my username through an anagram generator but as the only one that makes sense is a bit rude I'm not repeating it.
Oh go on! I can't imagine you could get anything rude out of those letters  ???
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #269 on: January 29, 2016, 06:20:49 AM »
This is a good game can anyone play?

.. Alien is an anagram of 'I lean'.
The one I think is clever - Terry Pratchett is an anagram of Three Tart Crypt. However, I hasten to add that, as a TP fan, this is no way disrespectful!
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #270 on: January 29, 2016, 07:04:58 AM »
Rose is either sore or roes.

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #271 on: January 29, 2016, 07:31:43 AM »
Also Eros, although if it's like Scrabble you can't have proper names! :)
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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #272 on: January 29, 2016, 07:35:53 AM »
Also Eros, although if it's like Scrabble you can't have proper names! :)

Cupid

By another name  ;D

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #273 on: January 29, 2016, 08:31:46 AM »
Also ores

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Re: Death Hell Problems stalk the unbeliever
« Reply #274 on: January 29, 2016, 01:55:49 PM »
Well once again time to check the goats/hell bound club you must all be very happy to know that you wont be going to heaven  :) hardened hearts is the problem.
are you banking on evolution to be true,and yet we no sign of it,no sign of life elsewhere,and you worship your idols and x sperts and what do you have a world in trouble and you abandoned by God.

 I suppose it is good you don't need to worry about an alien invasion,because taking one look at you lot  :o it would be exterminate,exterminate.

 But alas for you it is woe woe woe as the Lord has you in his sights.

   Have fun ~TW~
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