Litvinenko and Putin

[Owlswing]

Oh yeah! And all only "probably"! LOL!

Probably what!

Your response, is, like a lot of your responses, meaningless and posted only so that you can pat yourself on the back for having responded.

So again, probably what!

[ad_orientem]

If you can't see what I'm taking the piss out of it's not worth explaining any further. You're a lost cause. US, Europe and Israel good guys, Russia bad guys. We get it..."probably"!

[Owlswing]

If you can't see what I'm taking the piss out of it's not worth explaining any further. You're a lost cause. US, Europe and Israel good guys, Russia bad guys. We get it..."probably"!

There is no "probably" about it! You clearly don't get it at all!

Why? Because you cannot accept that there might be any explanation but yours - just like your religious views.

[ad_orientem]

No, clearly you don't get it. Otherwise you wouldn't automatically lap up the official line.

[Owlswing]

No, clearly you don't get it. Otherwise you wouldn't automatically lap up the official line.

And I am supposed to accept the unofficial line of a religious nutcase and serial conspiracy theorist?

I consider you to be the stupid one, one who will accept and swallow whole any and all conspiracy theories that are anti-US and anti-fundamentalist Christianity.

[Bubbles]

What a weird way of assassinating someone though.

He was so radioactive they had to bury him in a lead lined coffin and apparently I was reading that the radiation released also put Londoners in danger. ( ie if you drank from that teapot, washed and used again before anyone realised).

It was such an odd way of killing someone, I mean your average Joe can't get a bottle of polonium down the chemist.

It's a bit of an unforgettable way of killing someone.

 

I'm not sure who did it, but they had more connections than most of us.

[Owlswing]

What a weird way of assassinating someone though.

He was so radioactive they had to bury him in a lead lined coffin and apparently I was reading that the radiation released also put Londoners in danger. ( ie if you drank from that teapot, washed and used again before anyone realised).

It was such an odd way of killing someone, I mean your average Joe can't get a bottle of polonium down the chemist.

It's a bit of an unforgettable way of killing someone.

 

I'm not sure who did it, but they had more connections than most of us.

That, it would seem, was the whole idea.

To teach Litvinenko a lesson; a long slow death affected not only his family but him too - to have shot him or run him over would have meant that only the former would suffer and they were not the target, he was.

The message from whoever arranged his death, Putin or whoever, was don't ever mess with me or you will suffer as Litvinenko did.

[Bubbles]

That, it would seem, was the whole idea.

To teach Litvinenko a lesson; a long slow death affected not only his family but him too - to have shot him or run him over would have meant that only the former would suffer and they were not the target, he was.

The message from whoever arranged his death, Putin or whoever, was don't ever mess with me or you will suffer as Litvinenko did.

According to this, part of his job had been to investigate the Russian mafia.

It's the sort of premeditated thing I could see a gangster boss doing or wanting a message got across to those in the know.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/alexander-litvinenko-the-man-who-solved-his-own-murder

It sounds like his job was to investigate mafia connections to governments officials.

I think it sounds like someone got upset he might, in the light of his investigations, end up removing a puppet under their control in the Russian halls of power.

It doesn't sound like something a government would do, more like what a thug would do.

( not saying their president couldn't be a thug, but perhaps it's people behind the scene pulling strings rather that the Russian government enmasse)

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[Ricky Spanish]

"Former-KGB spy Alexander Litvinenko accused Russian President Vladimir Puttin of being a paedophile, the spy’s widow told a public inquiry into his death."

http://tinyurl.com/ze78e8g

I saw this on my fb feed earlier, accompanied by a photo of Putin blowing a raspberry on some kids stomach.

If you want to bring someone into disrepute, call 'em a "Paedo"...

[Jack Knave]

Yes, of course he was; but he was not a politician.

He was an Anti-Organised Crime Squad cop. He and some colleagues accused high ranking politicians of ordering the assassination of a crime syndicate boss, probably to protect their own skins.

Livinenko was arrested and charged with something or other and eventually came to London and worked with British Intelligence.

He wrote a book, or maybe two, and accused various people in the cops, army, and politics of using violence to help get Putin elected.

When he died Putin was Suspect Numero Uno. And, apparently, still is.

My original post on this was about the events that were earlier and preceded what you have mention. Those events just after the collapse of the USSR when everyone in power were trying to grab power and wealth etc.

[Jack Knave]

Isn't this "If Alan Kurdi had lived he would have have been a rapist"?

No. What Litvinenko was doing during the period after the fall of the USSR, when people were grabbing power etc., will indicate what his real motives were.

Kurdi had no back story to impeach him.

[Owlswing]

According to this, part of his job had been to investigate the Russian mafia.

It's the sort of premeditated thing I could see a gangster boss doing or wanting a message got across to those in the know.


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/19/alexander-litvinenko-the-man-who-solved-his-own-murder

It sounds like his job was to investigate mafia connections to governments officials.

I think it sounds like someone got upset he might, in the light of his investigations, end up removing a puppet under their control in the Russian halls of power.

It doesn't sound like something a government would do, more like what a thug would do.

( not saying their president couldn't be a thug, but perhaps it's people behind the scene pulling strings rather that the Russian government enmasse)

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Wasn't that what I said in an earlier post on this thread, about #5 or so?

[Jack Knave]

What a weird way of assassinating someone though.

He was so radioactive they had to bury him in a lead lined coffin and apparently I was reading that the radiation released also put Londoners in danger. ( ie if you drank from that teapot, washed and used again before anyone realised).

It was such an odd way of killing someone, I mean your average Joe can't get a bottle of polonium down the chemist.

It's a bit of an unforgettable way of killing someone.

 

I'm not sure who did it, but they had more connections than most of us.

If its that radioactive how did they carry it around without dying themselves?

[Owlswing]

If its that radioactive how did they carry it around without dying themselves?

How would we know that they didn't? Do you honestly think that, regardless of if it were Putin or the Russian Mafia who ordered the 'hit', they would bother to tell their hitmen that they were in as much danger as their target?

[Udayana]

Polonium 210 emits some gamma rays but large amounts of alpha radiation. The alpha particles are easily blocked, eg. by a container, but are lethal when the polonium has been ingested. Traces of the polonium were found in the bars, restaurants, taxis and airplanes used by the suspects.
 

[Rhiannon]

There are easier ways of taking out a hit on someone.

[Owlswing]

There are easier ways of taking out a hit on someone.

Agrred, but, as I said, in this case a protracted and painful death as a punishment and a warning to others was probably intended and achieved.

[Jack Knave]

How would we know that they didn't? Do you honestly think that, regardless of if it were Putin or the Russian Mafia who ordered the 'hit', they would bother to tell their hitmen that they were in as much danger as their target?

The main suspect looks fit and well. He hasn't died as Litvinenko has.

[Owlswing]

The main suspect looks fit and well. He hasn't died as Litvinenko has.

Lucky man!

Maybe there is a god after all!

Or, more likely, it was the one Goddess who cannot be invoked - Lady Luck!