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Leonard James

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #75 on: January 26, 2016, 02:58:23 PM »
Fairies are Pagan angels - the messengers of the deities.

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #76 on: January 26, 2016, 03:20:36 PM »
I think you'll find fairies are something else altogether 8)
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #77 on: January 26, 2016, 03:22:55 PM »
I think you'll find fairies are something else altogether 8)

Age old comment on here - 1 - who says?

                                        2 - Prove it!
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #78 on: January 26, 2016, 03:27:30 PM »
Age old comment on here - 1 - who says?

                                        2 - Prove it!

I know plenty of fairies - I think you aare taking my comment altogether too seriously.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #79 on: January 26, 2016, 03:29:53 PM »
I know plenty of fairies - I think you aare taking my comment altogether too seriously.

Ooh, get her!

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #80 on: January 26, 2016, 03:36:15 PM »
I know plenty of fairies - I think you aare taking my comment altogether too seriously.


In which case we may, just possibly, have friends in common!
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #81 on: January 26, 2016, 04:04:45 PM »
Historically, the most successful technique for recruiting Christians has been to point out to the candidate how much longer and less painful their life would be if they converted to the 'one true faith'.  (PDQ)

A more recent technique has been to show those who are in deep shit for financial or sexual misdemeanour's, that becoming a 'Born Again' can be a useful tool into their rehabilitation into society (and will go down well with the parole board)
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #82 on: January 26, 2016, 04:06:03 PM »

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #83 on: January 26, 2016, 04:43:12 PM »
L.A.,

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Historically, the most successful technique for recruiting Christians has been to point out to the candidate how much longer and less painful their life would be if they converted to the 'one true faith'.  (PDQ)

A more recent technique has been to show those who are in deep shit for financial or sexual misdemeanour's, that becoming a 'Born Again' can be a useful tool into their rehabilitation into society (and will go down well with the parole board)

That's interesting. I saw a documentary a while back about the US prison system (possibly Louis Theroux) where some "born again" prisoners explained their previous crimes with "back then the devil took me" or some such. Impossible to know which actually believed it and which saw it as a useful tactic for the parole board, but it's a handy way of shifting blame and responsibility onto a third party - "wasn't me guv, it was Stan's fault" etc.

I've seen it in a less formalised form when the criminal says, "that wasn't the real me that did those things" as a way of shifting blame as a means of getting themselves off the hook, at least in their heads.     
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #84 on: January 26, 2016, 07:00:46 PM »
L.A.,

That's interesting. I saw a documentary a while back about the US prison system (possibly Louis Theroux) where some "born again" prisoners explained their previous crimes with "back then the devil took me" or some such. Impossible to know which actually believed it and which saw it as a useful tactic for the parole board, but it's a handy way of shifting blame and responsibility onto a third party - "wasn't me guv, it was Stan's fault" etc.

I've seen it in a less formalised form when the criminal says, "that wasn't the real me that did those things" as a way of shifting blame as a means of getting themselves off the hook, at least in their heads.   
I find a post like this ironic when it,s contents are a moral non realist moaning about people getting away with it. Getting away with what?

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2016, 07:19:48 PM »
I find a post like this ironic when it,s contents are a moral non realist moaning about people getting away with it. Getting away with what?

I merely observe Vlad, I'll leave the moralising to others.
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2016, 08:19:12 AM »
FD,

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I find a post like this ironic when it,s contents are a moral non realist moaning about people getting away with it. Getting away with what?

Immorality.

You're not about to fall back into your old mistake of assuming that morality requires absolutism are you?

Are you?
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2016, 04:18:30 PM »
You really want me to be a christian?

Just give me lots of cash and a guarantee that I don't have to tolerate any other christians until we get to imaginary heaven  :) CONVERTED!
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2016, 09:36:49 AM »
Making loads of monies is easy. Kid on you are in direct contact with Jesus. Create a website asking for donations to help you communicate with Jesus with the promise you will get Jesus to help those who donate. Start a megachurch, stride about claiming that you are the conduit to Jesus for your congregation, by shouting his name a lot and asking for amens'.

Within a few short years, you is mega rich...
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #89 on: January 28, 2016, 09:51:52 AM »
Making loads of monies is easy. Kid on you are in direct contact with Jesus. Create a website asking for donations to help you communicate with Jesus with the promise you will get Jesus to help those who donate. Start a megachurch, stride about claiming that you are the conduit to Jesus for your congregation, by shouting his name a lot and asking for amens'.

Within a few short years, you is mega rich...

Aha! Use the American Evangelical model for wealth creation - otherwise known as "the Con-Gane".
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #90 on: January 28, 2016, 05:22:23 PM »
I had to google matty's "Con-Gane" and I got no results. (snork)

As far as con-games go, well I know an agnostic that is a pro at it.

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #91 on: January 28, 2016, 05:25:18 PM »
How does that work?

I've gone back to the beginning of this thread, the post that Shaker replied to said something of the ilk of 'ignore atheists'.

I honestly don't know how that works!  However I do believe that we should respect the right of everyone to believe or not believe and not do a hard sell.  Even for believers, it is somewhat off putting when people heavily evangelise.  Let us live and let live and give people space to explore.  It worked for me - I have no wish to personalise this thread - and I believe that God sorts out all the seekers - but many will disagree.  No problem.
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #92 on: January 28, 2016, 06:14:14 PM »
FD,

Immorality.

You're not about to fall back into your old mistake of assuming that morality requires absolutism are you?
Dear CC

it is for anyone who isn't just pulling a "morality" out of their arse.

Anything else I can help you with?

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #93 on: January 28, 2016, 10:23:51 PM »
FD,

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Dear CC

it is for anyone who isn't just pulling a "morality" out of their arse.

That's a lot of stupid to cram into so few words.

As you've crashed straight back into your moral absolutism idiocy I'll leave you to your personal grief I think.

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Anything else I can help you with?

Yes - try getting at least a basic education before returning, if only to save yourself some of the contempt and pity your thuggishness engenders.
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2016, 11:11:50 PM »

How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian?

The simplest way would be to tell the atheist that for every atheist who turns to Christ a Justin Bieber fan turns to Heavy Metal!
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #95 on: January 28, 2016, 11:29:17 PM »
You're still shooting blanks Matty.

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #96 on: January 28, 2016, 11:43:20 PM »
Vasectomy aye?
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2016, 01:40:37 AM »
Vasectomy aye?

Aye! When, after eight years, my wife (now ex-wife (of twenty years standing)) fell pregnant again! Bit of a shock that as she had gone to the Doc to check to see if she was medivally OK for her to be sterilised; she wsas told "no she wasn't" 'cos she was fourand a half moths pregnant!!
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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2016, 02:23:58 AM »
How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian?

The simplest way would be to tell the atheist that for every atheist who turns to Christ a Justin Bieber fan turns to Heavy Metal!

I don't know any Justin Bieber songs but hate heavy metal so wouldn't work with me.

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Re: How to Persuade an Atheist to Become Christian:
« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2016, 04:33:02 AM »
I don't know any Justin Bieber songs but hate heavy metal so wouldn't work with me.

There is always one exception that proves the rule!
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