Author Topic: More US election stuff (Read 72427 times)

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #125 on:** May 24, 2016, 08:00:39 AM »

And The Donald makes progress against The Hillary

http://tinyurl.com/hgrma7x

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #126 on:** May 24, 2016, 09:24:11 AM »

Further polls showing that Sanders does be v Trump than Clinton does

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

jeremyp · « **Reply #127 on:** May 24, 2016, 07:08:42 PM »

I'm finding it really difficult to believe that Americans are really so stupid as to let Trump win the Presidential Election. That graph chills my stomach. Surely it can't come to pass? What is wrong with them?

wigginhall · « **Reply #128 on:** May 25, 2016, 01:34:51 PM »

One thing that's amazed me, just reading around various forums and blogs, is the intense hatred for Clinton, shown by various Dems, independents, and so on, many of them Bernie supporters. It looks as if they will not vote for Hillary if she is the candidate. I suppose it's partly the Clinton brand, the history with Bill, and so on. But still.

jakswan · « **Reply #129 on:** May 25, 2016, 04:54:04 PM »

Bill Maher "Americans are stupid"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMOxj8w0K-c

Gordon · « **Reply #130 on:** May 26, 2016, 03:56:50 PM »

BBC are reporting that Trump has secured the Republican nomination.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36392084

floo · « **Reply #131 on:** May 26, 2016, 04:03:46 PM »

It will be an extremely bad day for the planet if Trump becomes President.

Shaker · « **Reply #132 on:** May 26, 2016, 04:09:13 PM »

Quote from: Floo on May 26, 2016, 04:03:46 PM

It will be an extremely bad day for the planet if Trump becomes President.

Agreed but I don't think it'll happen.

Hope · « **Reply #133 on:** May 26, 2016, 04:19:03 PM »

Quote from: Floo on May 26, 2016, 04:03:46 PM

It will be an extremely bad day for the planet if Trump becomes President.

I'm not sure that it will be as bad as we like to make out. I destest trump, but over the last 50+ years, some of the world's major nations have had some pretty dire leaders elected. The world seems to have survived them.

Hope · « **Reply #134 on:** May 26, 2016, 04:20:35 PM »

Quote from: wigginhall on May 25, 2016, 01:34:51 PM

I suppose it's partly the Clinton brand, the history with Bill, and so on. But still.

But also the fact that she is seen as establishment, against which there appears to be a major backlash; and some of the daft things she seems to have said and done over time.

Hope · « **Reply #135 on:** May 26, 2016, 04:48:18 PM »

Quote from: Gordon on May 26, 2016, 03:56:50 PM

BBC are reporting that Trump has secured the Republican nomination.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36392084

From what I have read on the website, they are saying that he has won enough delegates 'to win the nomination'. That is different to winning the nomination. It is still possible for the Republican Party to put up an alternative candidate at the Convention in July. Not sure that this has ever been done, though, but both the Democratic and Republican Parties have clauses in their constitutions allowing them to do so.

jeremyp · « **Reply #136 on:** May 26, 2016, 06:10:17 PM »

Quote from: Hope on May 26, 2016, 04:48:18 PM

From what I have read on the website, they are saying that he has won enough delegates 'to win the nomination'. That is different to winning the nomination. It is still possible for the Republican Party to put up an alternative candidate at the Convention in July. Not sure that this has ever been done, though, but both the Democratic and Republican Parties have clauses in their constitutions allowing them to do so.

I honestly don't think it will happen. There's more at stake than just the presidency, there is Congress too.

Imagine what the Trump supporters will do if Trump is not nominated. My bet is they will attempt to punish the Republican Party by not voting for the official nominee and not voting for Republican Congresspeople. If they do that, the Democrats will not only win the presidency but also take control of both Houses.

Jack Knave · « **Reply #137 on:** May 26, 2016, 07:43:11 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on May 26, 2016, 06:10:17 PM

I honestly don't think it will happen. There's more at stake than just the presidency, there is Congress too.

Imagine what the Trump supporters will do if Trump is not nominated. My bet is they will attempt to punish the Republican Party by not voting for the official nominee and not voting for Republican Congresspeople. If they do that, the Democrats will not only win the presidency but also take control of both Houses.

The simple or obvious answer to this is that he will stand as an independent and split the republican vote thereby giving it to Clinton. Or he will threaten this behind closed doors and they will have no choice but to give him the nomination. He is rich and therefore has power.

Hope · « **Reply #138 on:** August 08, 2016, 09:05:27 PM »

This news, just in - 'Independent candidate to stand'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37012626

jeremyp · « **Reply #139 on:** August 08, 2016, 09:11:54 PM »

There's talk (apparently) of forcing Trump to stand down so the GOP can put in a credible candidate. Currently Clinton is leading by 6-9% which, with the electoral college, equates to a landslide.

One of my Facebook friends has even posted a plea to lay off Trump for a bit because he is frightened that the GOP might replace him with a candidate who could win.

It's bloody typical, we put on the craziest vote ever and the Americans just have to top it.

Jack Knave · « **Reply #140 on:** August 09, 2016, 06:26:38 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 08, 2016, 09:11:54 PM

There's talk (apparently) of forcing Trump to stand down so the GOP can put in a credible candidate. Currently Clinton is leading by 6-9% which, with the electoral college, equates to a landslide.

One of my Facebook friends has even posted a plea to lay off Trump for a bit because he is frightened that the GOP might replace him with a candidate who could win.

It's bloody typical, we put on the craziest vote ever and the Americans just have to top it.

You want to out do the Americans? Now that's crazy!!!

Jack Knave · « **Reply #141 on:** August 09, 2016, 06:34:32 PM »

One commentator said that this election will be the greatest show in town and one should get the popcorn out and sit back and enjoy the fireworks. They claimed that never in the history of US elections had the two parties been so aggressive towards each other with even their followers fighting. Both candidates have some form of large lump of shit on them which is going to give each other plenty of ammo, and both have some internal festering fighting going on. Western democracy, don't you just love it!!!

jeremyp · « **Reply #142 on:** August 10, 2016, 09:46:20 AM »

Donald Trump has now apparently hinted that gun rights advocates should assassinate Hilary Clinton.

What's the betting his campaign implodes before the election?

L.A. · « **Reply #143 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:04:13 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 10, 2016, 09:46:20 AM

Donald Trump has now apparently hinted that gun rights advocates should assassinate Hilary Clinton.

What's the betting his campaign implodes before the election?

But his words were ambiguous, and he denies that he was actually advocating violence - so he has managed to put out a message that both moderate and extreme supporters can accept with enthusiasm - maybe not so stupid as he looks?

jeremyp · « **Reply #144 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:09:47 AM »

Quote from: L.A. on August 10, 2016, 10:04:13 AM

But his words were ambiguous, and he denies that he was actually advocating violence - so he has managed to put out a message that both moderate and extreme supporters can accept with enthusiasm - maybe not so stupid as he looks?

Really? You think this was actually good for his campaign?

L.A. · « **Reply #145 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:32:44 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 10, 2016, 10:09:47 AM

Really? You think this was actually good for his campaign?

It's very difficult to judge, we see things from a very different perspective on this side of the Atlantic. Whenever he creates controversy he seems to gain in the polls. I suspect that it won't do him any harm, but it will be interesting to watch.

Spud · « **Reply #146 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:35:32 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 10, 2016, 09:46:20 AM

Donald Trump has now apparently hinted that gun rights advocates should assassinate Hilary Clinton.

What's the betting his campaign implodes before the election?

I dont think he was being serious - he's not that crazy. He ought not to be able to get away with it, though.

jeremyp · « **Reply #147 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:37:15 AM »

Quote from: L.A. on August 10, 2016, 10:32:44 AM

Whenever he creates controversy he seems to gain in the polls.

This is manifestly not true. The controversy over the Muslim parents of a dead US soldier damaged him pretty severely.

jeremyp · « **Reply #148 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:40:13 AM »

Quote from: Spud on August 10, 2016, 10:35:32 AM

I dont think he was being serious

No, of course he wasn't, but he has supporters that might take him seriously. The problem isn't that he was being serious but that he said it at all. Presidents need to be presidential and not make stupid off the cuff remarks that might accidentally incite violence.

This is just another example of why he is unfit to be president.

L.A. · « **Reply #149 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:55:55 AM »

Quote from: jeremyp on August 10, 2016, 10:37:15 AM

This is manifestly not true. The controversy over the Muslim parents of a dead US soldier damaged him pretty severely.

Trump has made a great many controversial and downright outrageous remarks throughout his campaign, yet he got nominated and is still very much in the running for the presidency. A particular remark may cause a blip in his ratings, but when you consider all the really stupid things he has said, you have to conclude, that the electorate either:

a/ don't care.

or

b/ assume that it is just rhetoric.

Either way, I wouldn't wright him off yet.

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Author Topic: More US election stuff (Read 72427 times)

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