More US election stuff

[Jack Knave]

It's a bit late for that now, they have nominated him.

You think politics is a game that plays fair? 

[Jack Knave]

That, "The Second Amendment people have tremendous power because they are so united,” which he told a CBS affiliate in North Carolina late on Tuesday.

One guy on Dateline claims that the NRA have paid for many of Trumps ad commercials, which would explain his comments.

[Jack Knave]

Because they are a well organised group and to be fair, they have used democratic means in the past to make their case.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-NRA-so-effective-at-lobbying

Someone on Dateline was implying that his comments here were in reference to Clinton being in power, plus the democrats being in control of the Senate and HoR, and then from there she bringing in her judges, all leading to gun rights being watered down.......and then what happens next is...

[Jack Knave]

Listening to Lionel Shriver, novelist, being interviewed on the BBC she mentioned that if Trump was concocted as a fictitious character the readers wouldn't buy it. He wouldn't be accepted as plausible. That's how crazy the situation is!!!

[Hope]

...and then what happens next is...

... that fewer American citizens die at the hands (or firearms) of foeelow American citizens.  However, I doubt whether Clinton would change any of the gun laws.  The NRA have too many Congressmen and women, not to mention Senators (regardless of party in both cases), in their thrall.

[jeremyp]

Because they are a well organised group and to be fair, they have used democratic means in the past to make their case.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-NRA-so-effective-at-lobbying

Well why be coy about it then?

[Hope]

Because they are a well organised group and to be fair, they have used democratic means in the past to make their case.

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-NRA-so-effective-at-lobbying

Not sure that handing out money to pay campaign costs, etc. is necessarily the best example of 'democratic means', LA.

[Jack Knave]

... that fewer American citizens die at the hands (or firearms) of foeelow American citizens.  However, I doubt whether Clinton would change any of the gun laws.  The NRA have too many Congressmen and women, not to mention Senators (regardless of party in both cases), in their thrall.

That last bit was meant to indicate what Trump had 'implied', the assignation of Clinton.

[jeremyp]

Hillary Clinton now at 89.2% chance of winning.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

We are probably past the point where the Republicans can replace their candidate without incurring election losing penalties, at least not without court action.

[L.A.]

Not sure that handing out money to pay campaign costs, etc. is necessarily the best example of 'democratic means', LA.

It's the American way Hope.

[L.A.]

Hillary Clinton now at 89.2% chance of winning.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo

We are probably past the point where the Republicans can replace their candidate without incurring election losing penalties, at least not without court action.

I very much hope you are right but betting odds are not the same as probability and there is still plenty of time for unexpected events.

[jeremyp]

I very much hope you are right but betting odds are not the same as probability and there is still plenty of time for unexpected events.

Check the site. These are not betting odds, they are probabilities arrived at by simulating the election 20,000 times using the latest polling and other data. In fact, it's Nate Silver's site.

[jeremyp]

Hilary down to a 67.8% chance of winning.

This is beginning to get worrying.

[L.A.]

Hilary down to a 67.8% chance of winning.

This is beginning to get worrying.

What did I say about unexpected events?

[Jack Knave]

What did I say about unexpected events?

I don't think Hilary's health will last the coarse. Every little cough and splut will be scrutinised now. With the riggers of being President, assuming she wins, she is bound to 'fall' at some point.

[jeremyp]

I don't think Hilary's health will last the coarse. Every little cough and splut will be scrutinised now. With the riggers of being President, assuming she wins, she is bound to 'fall' at some point.

She had a bout of pneumonia, that's all. I have a friend who caught pneumonia in college. She's still perfectly fit 30 years later.

[Jack Knave]

She had a bout of pneumonia, that's all. I have a friend who caught pneumonia in college. She's still perfectly fit 30 years later.

There's no guarantees in life and she is 69 years old. 

[Nearly Sane]

There's no guarantees in life and she is 69 years old.

the first is an irrelevant truism, the second is factually wrong by a year. The whole sentence seems a tad vacuous - what's your point, caller?

[jeremyp]

There's no guarantees in life and she is 69 years old.

Donald Trump is 70.

[BashfulAnthony]

Pneumonia is a very serious condition, particularly in the elderly, and I am only too aware of that through recent events in my family.  To think of my particular family member in question beginning a job as physically, and mentally, demanding as the US President is a non-starter:  he is 71, by the way.

[floo]

I think being President, especially these days, is a job for someone in their 40s or early 50s. Whilst Clinton is a million times more preferable than Trump, she is still over the hill, imo.

[Jack Knave]

the first is an irrelevant truism, the second is factually wrong by a year. The whole sentence seems a tad vacuous

OK, she's 68, but in my defence she looks 69, probably because she is ill. 

It is only vacuous to those who are vacuous!!!

[Nearly Sane]

OK, she's 68, but in my defence she looks 69. 

It is only vacuous to those who are vacuous!!!

was that in the other fortune cookie?

[Jack Knave]

Donald Trump is 70.

I know but we were talking about Hilary and whereas he's pretty fit for his age she's coughing and spluttering and near death's door. Her vice President is the grim Reaper!

[Nearly Sane]

I know but we were talking about Hilary and whereas he's pretty fit for his age she's coughing and spluttering and near death's door. Her vice President is the grim Reaper!

and where did you get your M.D.?