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Nearly Sane · « **Reply #275 on:** October 03, 2016, 06:35:32 PM »

But that just makes him a genius, wigginhall, according to Giuliani

wigginhall · « **Reply #276 on:** October 03, 2016, 06:38:57 PM »

I think Giuliani had the stonking line, 'would you rather have a financial genius as president or a woman?'. Well, if you put it like that.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #277 on:** October 03, 2016, 06:48:31 PM »

Indeed and here we are with it.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/giuliani-trump-better-president-than-a-woman

wigginhall · « **Reply #278 on:** October 03, 2016, 06:57:12 PM »

I suppose the reply is that many of Trump's supporters don't care if he didn't pay taxes, or in fact, admire him. Also, they don't care if he fat-shames ex-beauty queens, and so on. But this seems to leave Trump on about 45%, and stuck there. The women's vote looks gone now; where else does he get support, unless Clinton falls over or something?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #279 on:** October 03, 2016, 07:02:04 PM »

Quote from: wigginhall on October 03, 2016, 06:57:12 PM

I suppose the reply is that many of Trump's supporters don't care if he didn't pay taxes, or in fact, admire him. Also, they don't care if he fat-shames ex-beauty queens, and so on. But this seems to leave Trump on about 45%, and stuck there. The women's vote looks gone now; where else does he get support, unless Clinton falls over or something?

cognitive dissonance is your friend even it it beats you up

jeremyp · « **Reply #280 on:** October 03, 2016, 07:06:27 PM »

Quote from: wigginhall on October 03, 2016, 06:38:57 PM

I think Giuliani had the stonking line, 'would you rather have a financial genius as president or a woman?'. Well, if you put it like that.

Hard to call yourself a financial genius when you lost $916 million in one year.

jeremyp · « **Reply #281 on:** October 03, 2016, 07:08:35 PM »

Clinton is back up to a 68.1% chance of winning.

Another debate and a few more tax revelations should be all we need to be able to sleep safe in our beds.

jeremyp · « **Reply #282 on:** October 06, 2016, 01:28:27 PM »

Clinton now running at a 76.2% chance of winning. It seems that the debates and Trump's latest tax fiasco have been quite destructive. I dare to hope.

Humph Warden Bennett · « **Reply #283 on:** October 06, 2016, 08:32:00 PM »

TRUMPING IS GOOD FOR YOU!

(but not for anybody near you)

jeremyp · « **Reply #284 on:** October 10, 2016, 05:36:23 PM »

Clinton now running at 82.2% chance of winning. The debate did her no harm at all (she was at over 80% just before the debate). So we can say she won it.

Jack Knave · « **Reply #285 on:** October 10, 2016, 06:41:01 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on October 10, 2016, 05:36:23 PM

Clinton now running at 82.2% chance of winning. The debate did her no harm at all (she was at over 80% just before the debate). So we can say she won it.

It's not over until the fat lady sings!!!

jeremyp · « **Reply #286 on:** October 10, 2016, 07:13:59 PM »

Quote from: Jack Knave on October 10, 2016, 06:41:01 PM

It's not over until the fat lady sings!!!

You're not actually pro Trump are you?

Jack Knave · « **Reply #287 on:** October 10, 2016, 07:27:42 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on October 10, 2016, 07:13:59 PM

You're not actually pro Trump are you?

All I'm saying is that there have been so many strange twist and turns in this US election we mustn't count our votes before they have been cast.

Aruntraveller · « **Reply #288 on:** October 10, 2016, 07:28:42 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on October 10, 2016, 07:13:59 PM

You're not actually pro Trump are you?

Probably, after all Trump is the love child of Nigel Farage & Marine Le Pen - and don't tell me, I know the timeline doesn't make sense but I've just been watching The Time Travellers Wife.

jeremyp · « **Reply #289 on:** October 10, 2016, 07:31:25 PM »

Quote from: Jack Knave on October 10, 2016, 07:27:42 PM

All I'm saying is that there have been so many strange twist and turns in this US election we mustn't count our votes before they have been cast.

That is true. However, it's really hard to see Trump improving his level of support at the moment.

Jack Knave · « **Reply #290 on:** October 10, 2016, 07:45:18 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on October 10, 2016, 07:31:25 PM

That is true. However, it's really hard to see Trump improving his level of support at the moment.

May be the problem will be with Hillary? I.e. not that Trump will rise but that she will slip down on some issue.

jeremyp · « **Reply #291 on:** October 11, 2016, 01:40:48 PM »

Quote from: Jack Knave on October 10, 2016, 07:45:18 PM

May be the problem will be with Hillary? I.e. not that Trump will rise but that she will slip down on some issue.

It's possible, but I think it would have to be really bad for her to lose to the Donald now. There are too many people who are shit scared of him getting into power. It would have to be as bad as the tape of him claiming that he sexually assaults women and uses his stardom to get away with it.

wigginhall · « **Reply #292 on:** October 12, 2016, 02:29:35 PM »

Clinton at 86% now, on 538. I don't see how Trump can come back now, unless there is some catastrophe for Clinton. As he gets wilder, his vote seems to be shrinking. And details come back to haunt him, for example, he is still saying that the Central Park Five are guilty, despite DNA evidence. Of course, they are black/Hispanic, therefore guilty.

And saying that he would jail Clinton is like a big dark cloud over him, since that is not the President's decision. Of course, it pleases some of his base.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37614095

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #293 on:** October 12, 2016, 02:33:47 PM »

And of course Farage spoke up for him after the debate, underlining his standards. The whole silverback gorilla comment was dubious and and an insult to silverbacks.

wigginhall · « **Reply #294 on:** October 12, 2016, 06:02:49 PM »

It's white privilege, isn't it?

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #295 on:** October 14, 2016, 09:35:50 AM »

Brilliant speech from Michelle Obama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7e3QKKOp50&feature=share

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #296 on:** October 14, 2016, 12:40:13 PM »

New York Times' lawyers reply to Trump's lawyers

http://www.nytco.com/the-new-york-timess-response-to-donald-trumps-retraction-letter/

Jack Knave · « **Reply #297 on:** October 15, 2016, 06:44:32 PM »

Quote from: jeremyp on October 11, 2016, 01:40:48 PM

It's possible, but I think it would have to be really bad for her to lose to the Donald now. There are too many people who are shit scared of him getting into power. It would have to be as bad as the tape of him claiming that he sexually assaults women and uses his stardom to get away with it.

Two other issues here are turnout (or lack of for Hillary) and shy Trumpers, skewing the poles.

She has also been up against the FBI about her email/server thing and on caution of perjury.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #298 on:** October 15, 2016, 06:49:34 PM »

Quote from: Jack Knave on October 15, 2016, 06:44:32 PM

Two other issues here are turnout (or lack of for Hillary) and shy Trumpers, skewing the poles.

She has also been up against the FBI about her email/server thing and on caution of perjury.

what would you vote?

Jack Knave · « **Reply #299 on:** October 15, 2016, 07:00:21 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on October 15, 2016, 06:49:34 PM

what would you vote?

Either I would not bother or I'd vote for one of the others - the independents.

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Author Topic: More US election stuff (Read 72602 times)