More US election stuff

[Hope]

Finally, Hillary's emails are going to be looked at again by the FBI.... and it's been reported in MSM. But there's something about the smug look on her face that says... 'I know something you don't'. No doubt, she'll get away with it.

I think you will find that Hillary's emails aren't being looked at 'again' Sweetpea.  As I understand the situation, this is a completely different set of emails that have cropped up in the process of the FBI investigating the sexting antics between an ex-congressman and a then 15-year old girl.

[Hope]

yeah, apparently Ghandi was a racist too

Who was Ghandi, NS?   

[Brownie]

Finally, Hillary's emails are going to be looked at again by the FBI.... and it's been reported in MSM. But there's something about the smug look on her face that says... 'I know something you don't'. No doubt, she'll get away with it.

I too wondered what she might think she is getting away with and can't say I've seen any 'smug look' when she's been on TV.  Whatever anyone thinks of the woman, that really is quite nasty and below the belt.

NS has explained about the emails.

As for Gandhi (the H comes before the i at the end, not after the G at the beginning), there are a few things on the internet about it.  Here's one link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882

It seems the Mahatma was not perfect.  Did anyone really believe he was?

As for MSM, I looked it up and it appears to be a joint health supplement.

[wigginhall]

What would be amazing is that an FBI intervention so late in the day, could tilt the election towards Trump.   Surely, questions would be raised about how this happened, and if it was under political pressure.   

[Nearly Sane]

You said that the only valid judgement was a consensus one, that individual subjective ones couldn't be relied on. You're moving the goal posts, something you do a lot.

Nope, never said that, you are now not only confused but misrepresenting me.

[Hope]

Happened to catch a brief section of a programme on the BBC's World Service TV earlier this afternoon.  It was pointing out that whilst the Democratic Party enjoys far more support amongst the Hollywood 'elite' than the Republican Party.  However, the only actors who have become politicians have almost always stood on the Republican ticket.

Any suggestions why?

[Hope]

What would be amazing is that an FBI intervention so late in the day, could tilt the election towards Trump.   Surely, questions would be raised about how this happened, and if it was under political pressure.

But the investigation into Anthony Weiner's antics has been on-going since September, when the sexting accusations against him surfaced.  Now, it could be that that 'surfacing' was timed on purpose - in the same way that the surfacing of Trump's gropings was 'timed' on purpose.  Should there be questions raised about that?

Remember that both Donald and Hillary are probably the least approved of candidates in a very long time.

[SweetPea]

I too wondered what she might think she is getting away with and can't say I've seen any 'smug look' when she's been on TV.  Whatever anyone thinks of the woman, that really is quite nasty and below the belt.

NS has explained about the emails.

As for Gandhi (the H comes before the i at the end, not after the G at the beginning), there are a few things on the internet about it.  Here's one link.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-34265882

It seems the Mahatma was not perfect.  Did anyone really believe he was?

As for MSM, I looked it up and it appears to be a joint health supplement.

Brownie, I'm not a Hillary fan and as for a "nasty and below the belt" remark, I rather think me referring to the woman as "smug" is pretty tame considering her persona. What kind of woman (HC) belittles another woman who accuses someone of rape. Then James Corney, the FBI director, warns the American public if they do as Hilary has done they will be imprisoned. But Hils gets away with it....

[Brownie]

Both Dem and Rep candidates seem pretty dire and are prepared to drag up anything to discredit eachother but I would prefer to wait and see what comes out that can be proven.

[Nearly Sane]

Both Dem and Rep candidates seem pretty dire and are prepared to drag up anything to discredit eachother but I would prefer to wait and see what comes out that can be proven.

why is Hillary as dire as the Donald?

[Aruntraveller]

why is Hillary as dire as the Donald?

Yes this puzzles me somewhat. This need to reduce them to the same level. Mrs Clinton for her faults is a much more reliable politician (and I mean that in a good way) than Trump will ever be.

Please folks read some of the things he says. He is barely literate or intelligible. This was on FB today, I checked it to make sure it is a true quote. It is. He was asked why he thought Lincoln succeeded. This was his reply:

Well, I think Lincoln succeeded for numerous reasons. He was a man who was of great intelligence, which most presidents would be. But he was a man of great intelligence, but he was also a man who did something that was a very vital thing to do at that time. Ten years before or 20 years before, what he was doing would never have even been thought possible. So he did something that was a very important thing to do, and especially at that time. And Nixon failed, I think to a certain extent, because of his personality. You know?  It was just that personality. Very severe, very exclusive. In other words, people couldn’t come in.  And people didn’t like him. I mean, people didn’t like him.

I mean really  - do  you think that Clinton could ever form such badly thought out, badly phrased nonsense about Abraham Lincoln.

They are not the same. The man is an imbecile. As well as all the other things he is well known for.

[jeremyp]

Get away with what exactly?

With not having done anything seriously wrong.

[jeremyp]

Well, the idiot currently has 44% of the vote, acc. to 538, and moving up.

Clinton is still five points ahead which is a lot in US election terms as reflected in her chance of winning (79%) but it's beginning to get worrying.

[jeremyp]

What kind of woman (HC) belittles another woman who accuses someone of rape.

When has she ever done that?

Then James Corney, the FBI director, warns the American public if they do as Hilary has done they will be imprisoned. But Hils gets away with it....

Maybe because she hasn't done anything illegal.

Hillary had some emails on a dodgy server. Trump admitted on camera that he sexually assaults women and uses his fame to get away with it. These are not the same. Hillary Clinton is a good politician. Donald Trumps a lying, bullying, sexist cheating arsehole. The two are not the same.

[Harrowby Hall]

Donald Trumps a lying, bullying, sexist cheating arsehole.

Why are you showering Trump with flattery? That is an insult to lying, bullying,sexist cheating arseholes!

[Brownie]

why is Hillary as dire as the Donald?

If you want my opinion, she is not, at worst she is the lesser of two evils - but I only know what I read or see on TV and how reliable is that?  If I was an American I would vote for her as opposed to Trump whom I still find difficult to take seriously - I have always wanted to believe Hilary will be a good president but it isn't about my feelings which are irrelevant as I'm not going to be voting. 

Both campaigns are barrel scraping to find ammunition against eachother and whilst I know politics is always a dirty business, whatever anyone said about Obama I don't remember any accusations against his character.

I don't understand the accusation of Hilary belittling someone who alleges they have been raped, I googled last night and could find nothing substantial.   

The only information we have is what is reported and, honestly, I feel it's best to avoid some of the more obscure, sensational, conspiratorial sites.

[Hope]

Hillary had some emails on a dodgy server. Trump admitted on camera that he sexually assaults women and uses his fame to get away with it. These are not the same. Hillary Clinton is a good politician. Donald Trumps a lying, bullying, sexist cheating arsehole. The two are not the same.

The only thing I'd change here is 'average' for 'good' in the 4th sentence.  Even some Democrats felt that she was a burden to Obama.

[wigginhall]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14572263_10210404245437870_2911532084169622053_n.jpg?oh=0718e73c2e8116cd9a12cae768f47d2b&oe=588BE0C8

[jeremyp]

Both campaigns are barrel scraping to find ammunition against eachother and whilst I know politics is always a dirty business, whatever anyone said about Obama I don't remember any accusations against his character.

The difference is that you don't need to scrape the barrel to find evidence that Donald Trump is unfit to be president. On the other hand Hillary Clinton has been investigated by various of her enemies for twenty five years and they have failed to find anything that they can make stick.

[jeremyp]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14572263_10210404245437870_2911532084169622053_n.jpg?oh=0718e73c2e8116cd9a12cae768f47d2b&oe=588BE0C8

That totally nails it. Clinton and Trump are mentioned in that picture exactly the same number of times, therefore they are equally as bad!

[Humph Warden Bennett]

FWIW I would vote for Stein. At least then if Killary won I would maintain some personal dignity. Gary Johnson is just as potty as Mr Fart, albeit he is more gentlemanly.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Poll puts Mr Fart in the lead

http://www.wxyz.com/news/political/donald-trump-leads-hillary-clinton-by-one-percent-new-poll-finds

 

[Hope]

Heard part of a brilliant Radio 4 programme - Rich Hall's (US Election) Breakdown - between 18:30 and 19:00 hrs this evening.

[wigginhall]

538 has Trump's chances now as 34%, and he is closing.   Oh hell.   

[Nearly Sane]

Pretty much from Barbara Kingsolver

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/06/hillary-clinton-white-house-donald-trump-bullying-barbara-kingsolver?CMP=fb_cif