More US election stuff

[jeremyp]

Your rhetoric here is exactly why Trump won, because the estalishment don't give a fuck about them

Trump doesn't give a fuck about them.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

You can really talk bullshit when you want.

Trump is going to let Putin do exactly what he wants. If that includes making Finland part of Greater Russia, nobody will now be able to stop him.

Putin is quite capable of annexing Finland, and presenting himself as a moderate against those who want Alaska as well (Mr Zhirinovsky).

[ad_orientem]

You can really talk bullshit when you want.

Trump is going to let Putin do exactly what he wants. If that includes making Finland part of Greater Russia, nobody will now be able to stop him.

You're talking bullshit. It's easy to talk from England. You don't share a border. Neither has your trade been ruined with your largest neighbour. Obama and Clinton were on a ruinous path and neither knew how to engage with Russia.

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[SusanDoris]

Finding it hard to take seriously Trump's victory speech promising to help the millions of forgotten Americans by employing them to rebuild US infrastructure so it is second to none - if he is serious his voters seem to have accepted a huge increase in national debt to fund this since he promised tax cuts - whoever voted for him it doesn't seem to have been fiscally conservative Republicans.

Oh, I do agree, I've just had to switch it off - thatsmarmy, pseudo-sincere, dripping with  - well, whatever is the best word to put here - voice. Yuk! 

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[jeremyp]

You're talking bullshit. It's easy to talk from England. You don't share a border.

No we don't, which is why it would be that much more difficult for Putin to annex the UK than Finland.

Neither has your trade been ruined with your largest neighbour.

Oh didn't you hear? we've already had a vote to start doing that.

Obama and Clinton were on a ruinous path and neither knew how to engage with Russia.

And you think the orange pussy groper does? I think you are in for a shock.

[wigginhall]

I think there is something almost inevitable about this.   After 8 years of Obama, who is after all a sophisticated and articulate guy, some people will want something very different, call it anti-elitist, unprivileged, or whatever.   And that ain't Clinton, as she is almost an extension of Obama.  Well, Trump is certainly opposite.

It is scary though, in terms of stuff like abortion, LGBT, as well as economic stuff.   I'm guessing that Trump doesn't have a clue in terms of what to do.   He won't build a wall, he won't imprison Clinton, he won't expel Muslims, but what will he do? 

[ad_orientem]

No we don't, which is why it would be that much more difficult for Putin to annex the UK than Finland.
Oh didn't you hear? we've already had a vote to start doing that.
And you think the orange pussy groper does? I think you are in for a shock.

You're so brainwashed it's unbelievable. Keep on believing that that Russia is the enemy. That is what the estsblishment has been feeding you. The real enemy is neo-liberal America. War is good business.

[wigginhall]

There is a point about neo-liberalism, but I reckon Trump has dealt one off the bottom of the pack here.  I mean, what is the alternative?   Have Trump's advisers got some exciting economic ideas, which dispense with neo-lib?  Hmm. 

[Walter]

Trump doesn't give a fuck about them.

you are right , it was a game to him . HE is as surprised as anybody else at the result . He's probably wondering 'what the fuck do I do now?'

[JP]

you are right , it was a game to him . HE is as surprised as anybody else at the result . He's probably wondering 'what the fuck do I do now?'

Have you been watching the latest season of South Park?

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You're so brainwashed it's unbelievable. Keep on believing that that Russia is the enemy. That is what the estsblishment has been feeding you. The real enemy is neo-liberal America. War is good business.

The real narrative goes like this. The US starts supporting rebels in various Arab countries, including Syria. Russia says no, this is not the way. The rebels gain momentum and Russia warns of the consequences saying, Assad might be a barstard but ISIS is worse. The US, in actions rather than words, says they prefer ISIS. Russia helps Assad. America gets pissed off. Anerica orchestrates a coup in Ukraine led by a group of neo-fascists. Russia responds. America gets even more pissed off like a big bully who doesn't get its way, and imposes sanctions and wants to expand its war machine, NATO, ever closer to Russia scaring people into thinking Russia will invade us all. Who is the aggressor? Who should I be afraid of? It's not Russia. This is all the work of Obama/Clinton and shady financial backers.

[Walter]

Have you been watching the latest season of South Park?

no, I've never seen it, is it relevant?

[L.A.]

Which is a good thing. We don't need NATO.


And Trump becoming President of the USA will make that less likely. Obama and Clinton were on a war path with Russia. Now you can pontificate all you want but neither the US nor UK has a thousand mile border with Russia. We can stay neutral now.

And that Mr Putin is such a nice chap, I'm sure he wishes his neighbours no malice at all.

[Bubbles]

Oh dear!   

That came as a shock!

[Bubbles]

Have you thought about opening your eyes to see what has happened here?

Trump is an isolationist. His rhetoric is racist in the extreme. He'll probably throw the Paris climate change agreement in the bin. His election has had an immediate effect on the US stock markets.

Also he bullies his subcontractors, sexually assaults women and is an orange game show host.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jun/03/hillary-clinton/yes-donald-trump-did-call-climate-change-chinese-h/

He might have said it as a joke, but it doesn't bode well for any climate change agreements.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/science/what-donald-trumps-election-means-9226290

The only good thing is he can't pull out, this time round

Part of the Paris Agreement was an effective lock-in for a four year period. So, theoretically, Donald Trump would have to win a second term in order to officially pull out of the deal.

“The Paris agreement prohibits any exit for a period of three years, plus a year-long notice period, so there will be four stable years,” said Ségolène Royale, France's environment minister and one of the members that helped negotiate the agreement.

[Jack Knave]

Farage magic does it again!!! Kicking the teeth of the rich establishment elite. 

This will empower the anti EU lot in Europe that they can fight back and win.

[Jack Knave]

You're so brainwashed it's unbelievable. Keep on believing that that Russia is the enemy. That is what the estsblishment has been feeding you. The real enemy is neo-liberal America. War is good business.

What people don't realise is that Russia's GDP is about as big as Italy's. They can't afford a war, and they are hurting now 'cause of the low oil prices and sanctions.

[Jack Knave]

There is a point about neo-liberalism, but I reckon Trump has dealt one off the bottom of the pack here.  I mean, what is the alternative?   Have Trump's advisers got some exciting economic ideas, which dispense with neo-lib?  Hmm.

He could put them, the bankers, in jail. Though he comes across to me as a mafia type operator so....

[ProfessorDavey]

Kicking the teeth of the rich establishment elite. 

By voting in a billionaire who was born into an astonishingly wealthy household. 

Trump is the rich establishment elite personified.

If you play golf you need to be rich.

If you play golf at the right 'club' you must be rich and establishment

If you actually own the right 'club' you are at the heart of the rich establishment elite.

[Jack Knave]

Oh dear!   

That came as a shock!

Seems there were more shy trumpers than they thought.

Didn't his acceptance speech almost make him look human. 

He looks to me like Frankenstein's monster in Mel Brook's film - nasty at first but singing and dancing later on.

[Jack Knave]

By voting in a billionaire who was born into an astonishingly wealthy household. 

Trump is the rich establishment elite personified.

If you play golf you need to be rich.

If you play golf at the right 'club' you must be rich and establishment

If you actually own the right 'club' you are at the heart of the rich establishment elite.

That's a different type. Clinton was the rotten real McCoy.

[L.A.]

Farage magic does it again!!! Kicking the teeth of the rich establishment elite. 

This will empower the anti EU lot in Europe that they can fight back and win.

I think it entirely possible that a future generation will send a robot back in time to ensure that Farage's plane crash in 2010 goes 'according to plan'

[Nearly Sane]

Seems there were more shy trumpers than they thought.

Didn't his acceptance speech almost make him look human. 

He looks to me like Frankenstein's monster in Mel Brook's film - nasty at first but singing and dancing later on.

and putting religious loons onto the Supreme Court, sort of Putting on the Titz

[Jack Knave]

I think it entirely possible that a future generation will send a robot back in time to ensure that Farage's plane crash in 2010 goes 'according to plan'

Dream on...................

[wigginhall]

So far, Clinton has a higher popular vote than Trump.   Odd how that keeps happening, as with Gore/Bush.