More US election stuff

[SusanDoris]

I have just read elsewhere that Trump wants his children to  have access to classified material.

He wamts security clearance for them.

[ekim]

I have just read elsewhere that Trump wants his children to  have access to classified material.

He wamts security clearance for them.

If true it sounds like the early stages of setting up a dynasty by dealing himself a handful of trumps.

[Nearly Sane]

The business of climate change for Trump


http://tinyurl.com/ztjstwx

[Nearly Sane]

Not racist at all!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37985967

[Jack Knave]

Why all the 'secrecy', JK.  There have only been conservative presidents since Bill Clinton (in fact, I'd suggest that the US has never had a non-conservative President - they've just been closer to or further away from the global understanding of right-wing [as opposed to left-wing]).

It is the people behind the scenes that are the ones with the power and these haven't changed. That's why Obama has been such a flop because they were the ones setting the tone.

[Jack Knave]

Going back to Trump, the crucial difference is authoritarian rule, isn't it?   I see worrying parallels between the treatment of Jews in the 30s, and Muslims today, but I don't think Le Pen, Farage and Trump are actually advocating internment and so on.   As I said earlier, the economies are too robust in Europe and the US, whereas in the 20s and 30s the economies were smashed.   Of course, the authoritarian stuff wasn't just about minorities.

A force is going on now which is having a similar effect to that of the 1930's. The system then, reparations and the crash, had created a downward spiral in the world's GDP and economies. Neo-Liberalism, globalization and quantitative easing have created a system that is sucking the world economies dry because it has failed. The people are suffering and at some point they will rebel against their neo-feudal lords.   

[Jack Knave]

I haven't seen that.   I think he did get close to fascist-type comments, and there are parallels with Jews in the 30s, but still, he is not another Hitler.   Of course, he could turn into one, if there are big economic upsets, or another 9/11.

If things become polarized, and with all those guns lying about, then a minor civil war could breakout. The anti-Trump protests were pretty feisty and there's been some white supremacist outbursts; all brewed up by Trump's rhetoric and expectations.

[Jack Knave]

Here's one hoping Le Pen wins next year. Another kick in the teeth of the current system. We have been forgotten by the elite. We want out countries, our continent and our culture back. I have no desire to walk into Helsinki and feel like I'm in downtwon Baghdad  or Mogadishu. Down with the EU, down with the system. Down with Soros and the Rothschilds. The people are rising.

I believe Finland is 100 years old soon. Someone is giving you a mountain as a gift, do enjoy it!

[Jack Knave]

One suspects they'd be better off properly funding their pensions and health insurance.

How? When the markets are rigged!!!

[Nearly Sane]

It is the people behind the scenes that are the ones with the power and these haven't changed. That's why Obama has been such a flop because they were the ones setting the tone.

you do know your post contradicts itself?

[Walter]

Not racist at all!!!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37985967

I thought it was funny

[Brownie]

In fairness, Trump can't be responsible for the tweets of some of his supporters.

It was a horrible thing to say about Michelle Obama who is a dignified and first lady who hasn't really put a foot wrong.  I feel a bit sorry for Trump's wife who isn't going to find it easy to step into the role.

Ad_o, I understood Soros was not a Zionist.  He has actually been accused of antisemitism by Zionists, I don't believe that's true but that's a label often stuck on people who are critical of Israel as he has been.

The site you linked to smacks of conspiracy theories.

[jeremyp]

John Oliver's take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv06XdjbVIM

I think his comments on social media - Facebook in particular are pretty good. 44% of Americans get their news from Facebook, which is pretty frightening because Facebook just feeds you what you want to read.

[jeremyp]

In fairness, Trump can't be responsible for the tweets of some of his supporters.

Yes he can. His campaign has legitimised this kind of nonsense.

I feel a bit sorry for Trump's wife who isn't going to find it easy to step into the role of first lady.

I agree, especially following Michelle Obama.

[Walter]

Yes he can. His campaign has legitimised this kind of nonsense.
I agree, especially following Michelle Obama.

you really are an intolerant bigot

[jeremyp]

you really are an intolerant bigot

Would you like to try saying something intelligent instead of calling the people you disagree with names?

[Harrowby Hall]

John Oliver's take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv06XdjbVIM

I think his comments on social media - Facebook in particular are pretty good. 44% of Americans get their news from Facebook, which is pretty frightening because Facebook just feeds you what you want to read.

It would appear that Facebook may be aware of the problem.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37967783

[Nearly Sane]

I thought it was funny

that's because you are racist

[SusanDoris]

A friend was telling me yesterday that There is a large number of law suits pending against Trump, going back years. Fraud, non-payment of huge bils, etc. Anyone know anything about this?

[Nearly Sane]

A friend was telling me yesterday that There is a large number of law suits pending against Trump, going back years. Fraud, non-payment of huge bils, etc. Anyone know anything about this?

Hurrah, oh, wait a minute,  President Pence, oops!

[Nearly Sane]

In fairness, Trump can't be responsible for the tweets of some of his supporters.

It was a horrible thing to say about Michelle Obama who is a dignified and first lady who hasn't really put a foot wrong.  I feel a bit sorry for Trump's wife who isn't going to find it easy to step into the role.

Ad_o, I understood Soros was not a Zionist.  He has actually been accused of antisemitism by Zionists, I don't believe that's true but that's a label often stuck on people who are critical of Israel as he has been.

The site you linked to smacks of conspiracy theories.

Didn't say he was responsible for the comments of his supporters. Was just picking up the person in the article saying it wasn't racist.

[floo]

A friend was telling me yesterday that There is a large number of law suits pending against Trump, going back years. Fraud, non-payment of huge bils, etc. Anyone know anything about this?

I have heard that too.

[Harrowby Hall]

Hurrah, oh, wait a minute,  President Pence, oops!

Not necessarily. I believe that the meeting of the Electoral College which validates and proclaims the election result has not taken place yet.

[Nearly Sane]

Not necessarily. I believe that the meeting of the Electoral College which validates and proclaims the election result has not taken place yet.

And they will go with Pence in this situation

[Brownie]

you really are an intolerant bigot

Walter, what Jeremy presented was a reasonable point of view but in any case on here we criticise the post, not insult the poster.