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Walter

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Re: More US election stuff
« Reply #625 on: November 16, 2016, 10:22:44 AM »
Would you like to try saying something intelligent instead of calling the people you disagree with names?

pot/kettle?

what I've been doing on this thread and on another is attempting to show how easy it is for ordinary people who we share our daily lives with can rapidly turn against each other because we experience life differently.
I've been playing devils advocate. It seems to have produced some interesting results.
Although I do agree with some of the things Trump said in his campaign, and some of the things Farage says, I have been called an idiot and a racist on these threads , nothing can be further from the truth.

If I have offended anyone , please accept my apologies, however you can see how easily it can be done

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« Reply #626 on: November 16, 2016, 10:45:59 AM »
I thought it was funny

I didn't find it at all funny, I thought it was very nasty.


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« Reply #627 on: November 16, 2016, 10:50:52 AM »
It certainly was nasty, however Walter says, above, he has been playing devil's advocate so we don't really know what he thinks.
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« Reply #628 on: November 16, 2016, 10:59:16 AM »
In fairness, Trump can't be responsible for the tweets of some of his supporters.

It was a horrible thing to say about Michelle Obama who is a dignified and first lady who hasn't really put a foot wrong.  I feel a bit sorry for Trump's wife who isn't going to find it easy to step into the role.

Ad_o, I understood Soros was not a Zionist.  He has actually been accused of antisemitism by Zionists, I don't believe that's true but that's a label often stuck on people who are critical of Israel as he has been.

The site you linked to smacks of conspiracy theories.

The women who tweeted it wasn't just a supporter though, but someone in government.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/15/michelle-obama-ape-in-heels-facebook-post-causes-outrage/

Although the USA has free speech, they are still expected to behave with decorum in positions of authority.

She got the sack!






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Re: More US election stuff
« Reply #629 on: November 16, 2016, 11:01:17 AM »
The women who tweeted it wasn't just a supporter though, but someone in government.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/15/michelle-obama-ape-in-heels-facebook-post-causes-outrage/

Although the USA has free speech, they are still expected to behave with decorum in positions of authority.

She got the sack!

I'm pleased to hear it.

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« Reply #630 on: November 16, 2016, 11:10:18 AM »
pot/kettle?

what I've been doing on this thread and on another is attempting to show how easy it is for ordinary people who we share our daily lives with can rapidly turn against each other because we experience life differently.
I've been playing devils advocate. It seems to have produced some interesting results.
Although I do agree with some of the things Trump said in his campaign, and some of the things Farage says, I have been called an idiot and a racist on these threads , nothing can be further from the truth.

If I have offended anyone , please accept my apologies, however you can see how easily it can be done

Yes, my initial gut  reaction to seeing the comment about Michelle Obama when it first came out,  was to say ( privately at home) some very unflattering things about Melania. Mainly because of how the comment was set. (Context)

That's also how differences grow.

The moral of that I guess is to go and have a cup of tea and not post until time has passed to reflect.

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When people post "gut" reactions, is when you get that sort of comment in the first place , I guess.


My work emails are famous, don't do them very often, but have had enough experience to know giving the "gut reaction" when you are beyond exasperation isn't always the best idea  :o

My manager lives in dread in case I sound off about some perceived unfairness.  :o

We joke about it  ;D
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« Reply #631 on: November 16, 2016, 11:30:07 AM »
Rose


very wise  :)

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« Reply #632 on: November 16, 2016, 12:07:45 PM »
Rose: The moral of that I guess is to go and have a cup of tea and not post until time has passed to reflect.

Definitely Rose, sensible as always (you'd make a great mod).
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Re: More US election stuff
« Reply #633 on: November 16, 2016, 12:18:29 PM »
Walter, what Jeremy presented was a reasonable point of view but in any case on here we criticise the post, not insult the poster.

But, but Jeremy called me stupid.....

Where is my safe space, boo hoo.
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« Reply #634 on: November 16, 2016, 05:34:25 PM »
you do know your post contradicts itself?
You do know your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever? Sadly I fear you don't.

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« Reply #635 on: November 16, 2016, 05:39:40 PM »
In fairness, Trump can't be responsible for the tweets of some of his supporters.

It was a horrible thing to say about Michelle Obama who is a dignified and first lady who hasn't really put a foot wrong.  I feel a bit sorry for Trump's wife who isn't going to find it easy to step into the role.

Ad_o, I understood Soros was not a Zionist.  He has actually been accused of antisemitism by Zionists, I don't believe that's true but that's a label often stuck on people who are critical of Israel as he has been.

The site you linked to smacks of conspiracy theories.
I think Trump's wife use to be a lap dancer or something like that.

Tarts are renown for being able to accommodate almost anyone and anything.  ;D

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« Reply #636 on: November 16, 2016, 06:56:57 PM »
I think Trump's wife use to be a lap dancer or something like that.

Tarts are renown for being able to accommodate almost anyone and anything.  ;D
oooh, I do like a tart.

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« Reply #637 on: November 16, 2016, 07:03:14 PM »
oooh, I do like a tart.
A Washington Tart, with a little wall around it.

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« Reply #638 on: November 16, 2016, 07:04:38 PM »
Victoria Plum tart is de-licious.

Anyway, being a lap dancer doesn't make someone a tart, so there.
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« Reply #639 on: November 16, 2016, 07:05:57 PM »
A Washington Tart, with a little wall around it.
a Washington tart with a little WALTER around it

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« Reply #640 on: November 16, 2016, 08:05:15 PM »
But, but Jeremy called me stupid.....

Where is my safe space, boo hoo.
In which post did I call you stupid?
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« Reply #641 on: November 16, 2016, 08:06:50 PM »
I think Trump's wife use to be a lap dancer or something like that.
She was a fashion and swimwear model.
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« Reply #642 on: November 16, 2016, 08:12:38 PM »
She was a fashion and swimwear model.
Oh. I saw a photograph of her seemingly dancing in not very much and I thought that the whole point of the news clip was to highlight her sordid past.

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« Reply #643 on: November 16, 2016, 08:28:14 PM »
Past is past.  She has been married to Donald Trump for quite a few years and they have a son.
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« Reply #644 on: November 16, 2016, 09:21:18 PM »
In which post did I call you stupid?
I think it was me you called stupid and idiot

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Re: More US election stuff
« Reply #645 on: November 17, 2016, 06:45:56 AM »
And they will go with Pence in this situation

But Pence was not a candidate in the election. No one has voted for him. The Electoral College can only consider declared presidential candidates, it cannot appoint someone who was not on the list.
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Re: More US election stuff
« Reply #646 on: November 17, 2016, 08:37:00 AM »
In which post did I call you stupid?
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« Reply #647 on: November 17, 2016, 11:05:24 AM »
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Technically I didn't call you stupid, I said you were being stupid to claim Clinton was as bad as Trump. I apologise, I should have worded it better e.g. "the idea that Clinton is as bad as Trump is utterly stupid" to make it clear that it was the statement that was stupid not the person.
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« Reply #648 on: November 17, 2016, 11:08:02 AM »
But Pence was not a candidate in the election. No one has voted for him. The Electoral College can only consider declared presidential candidates, it cannot appoint someone who was not on the list.
The chief role of the VP is to take over if the president is incapacitated. If Trump is incapacitated, Pence will take over under the US Constitution. It doesn't matter if people didn't vote for him (although the constitutional rule means technically they did since the president/vice president combination come as a package), it's the law.
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« Reply #649 on: November 17, 2016, 11:13:36 AM »
The chief role of the VP is to take over if the president is incapacitated. If Trump is incapacitated, Pence will take over under the US Constitution. It doesn't matter if people didn't vote for him (although the constitutional rule means technically they did since the president/vice president combination come as a package), it's the law.
Correct - see Presidents Johnson and Ford as examples - the latter being particularly unusual as he wasn't on the Nixon ticket in 1972, but became VP when Spiro Agnew resigned in 1973, then president following Nixon's resignation in 74.