Britian First and the Christian Patrols

[Ricky Spanish]

Britain First Denounced By Every Major Christian Denomination In The UK
Posted: 30/01/2016 09:35 GMT Updated: 55 minutes ago

Britain First has been denounced by every major Christian denomination in the UK, The Huffington Post UK can reveal today, a week after the far-right group held a so-called 'Christian patrol' targeting Muslims in Luton.

Representatives of 14 churches and Christian groups have variously described the political party as "extremist", "self-serving" and "blasphemous" and condemned its actions as "hi-jacking the name of Jesus Christ to justify hatred and spread fear".

Britain First claim to be defenders of "traditional British Christian values" and Leader Paul Golding has regularly invoked religious rhetoric to justify their actions.

http://tinyurl.com/jsl9me4

"Britain First is committed to maintaining and strengthening Christianity as the foundation of our society and culture."

Is this who you want to promote Christianity here in the "Union"

[Humph Warden Bennett]

We did this one a few months ago.

I have already stated that in my considered and humble opinion Golding is a tosser who is not representative of any branch of Christianity as I understand it, and have nothing further to add.

[floo]

They are evil nutters!

[OH MY WORLD!]

Well there is one thing that I hope comes of this. Those around here that get off mentioning Westboro (a tiny congregation of 50) will now replace it with, BRITAIN FIRST. People that write useless posts about American religious wingnuts, can now pay attention to their own messy yard. BRITAIN FIRST!!

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Well there is one thing that I hope comes of this. Those around here that get off mentioning Westboro (a tiny congregation of 50) will now replace it with, BRITAIN FIRST. People that write useless posts about American religious wingnuts, can now pay attention to their own messy yard. BRITAIN FIRST!!

Yes. This comes as manna to those antitheists who wanted a local version of Westboro.

Thrud the swivel eyed has probably already transferred my ''membership'' of the Phelpsian church to that of Britain first.

However outside the abnormal minority of the Antitheist community this organisation will be looked on as a nationalist movement rather than a religious one. Antitheist take note......The clue is in the name BRITAIN FIRST.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

"Britain First is committed to maintaining and strengthening Christianity as the foundation of our society and culture."

Is this who you want to promote Christianity here in the "Union"

Has he ever used the term ''The meek shall inherit the earth''?

[Shaker]

Has he ever used the term ''The meek shall inherit the earth''?

About as many times as you ever have.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

About as many times as you ever have.

I doubt he has even used it that much.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Has he ever used the term ''The meek shall inherit the earth''?

I doubt if he can even pronounce that phrase, let alone know what it means.

[floo]

At least the Britain First idiots are recognised by most people in the UK as complete nutters, whereas in the US people with those sort of views appear to be mainstream, which is very frightening, imo.

[OH MY WORLD!]

Floo,
If you have the notion that the antics of Westboro is mainstream USA, then really you must visit America and get educated.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

At least the Britain First idiots are recognised by most people in the UK as complete nutters, whereas in the US people with those sort of views appear to be mainstream, which is very frightening, imo.

I don't think the Westboro church has ever been mainstream though Floo although many idiot antitheists treated it as so.

[floo]

I don't think the Westboro church has ever been mainstream though Floo although many idiot antitheists treated it as so.

Right wing Christians are mainstream in the US unlike the UK, and that mixed with their unpleasant political stance is what makes them frightening.

[Bubbles]

Well there is one thing that I hope comes of this. Those around here that get off mentioning Westboro (a tiny congregation of 50) will now replace it with, BRITAIN FIRST. People that write useless posts about American religious wingnuts, can now pay attention to their own messy yard. BRITAIN FIRST!!

Its not really comparable IMO.

Britain First is more like the KKK than Westboro.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

At least the Britain First idiots are recognised by most people in the UK as complete nutters, whereas in the US people with those sort of views appear to be mainstream, which is very frightening, imo.

Yes but even I can and have sympathised when atheists are oppressed.

That is not the case over here which is probably why many UK antitheists go to American antitheists websites, podcasts and forums for a bit of action.

[ippy]

Another bunch of religious nutters, nothing new there?

What's the fuss?

ippy 

[Hope]

Another bunch of religious nutters, nothing new there?

What's the fuss?

ippy

If they are religious, of course.

[ippy]

If they are religious, of course.

The odds of their belief having anything in it worth knowing about, is about as credible as your group's belief having anything of substance in it that's worth hearing about; unless of course the elusive stuff turns up? You never know?

ippy

[Ricky Spanish]

Has he ever used the term ''The meek shall inherit the earth''?

3. Britain First is committed to preserving our ancestral ethnic and cultural heritage, traditions, customs and values. We oppose the colonisation of our homeland through immigration and support the maintenance of the indigenous British people as the demographic majority within our own homeland. Britain First is committed to maintaining and strengthening Christianity as the foundation of our society and culture.

https://www.britainfirst.org/statement-of-principles

Are you a member by any chance?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Britain First is committed to maintaining and strengthening Christianity as the foundation of our society and culture.[/b]

They've missed the boat by several decades then.

[Red Giant]

Well there is one thing that I hope comes of this. Those around here that get off mentioning Westboro (a tiny congregation of 50) will now replace it with, BRITAIN FIRST. People that write useless posts about American religious wingnuts, can now pay attention to their own messy yard. BRITAIN FIRST!!

Not really comparable.  Phelps was primarily a religious nutter who had the OT committed to memory and wrote up his own brand of theology. 

BF are just right-wing extremists who know squat about the Bible but assume God is on their side.  This trend is a very unwelcome new import from America after a century in which politicians didn't do God.

It'll be tough selling God to a lot of their natural supporters, but they might find people will buy "Christian" as code for "anti-Muslim" without actually believing in God really.

Interesting times ahead for British evangelicals.  They've tended to be officially leftish, but against their natural inclinations and in very uneasy alliance with liberals.  It's only a matter of time before they start coming out of their political closet and going over to the Right.

[Hope]

BF are just right-wing extremists who know squat about the Bible but assume God is on their side.  This trend is a very unwelcome new import from America after a century in which politicians didn't do God.

'New import'?  The National Front/BF and their various namesakes (including UKIP) have been playing the 'Christian' card for decades.  Certainly for as long as I can remember - and that's probably 50+ years.

Interesting times ahead for British evangelicals.  They've tended to be officially leftish, but against their natural inclinations and in very uneasy alliance with liberals.  It's only a matter of time before they start coming out of their political closet and going over to the Right.

It's not that simple, RG.  My evangelical-ness is, in part, why I'm concerned with the environment, with the problems surrounding homelessness, and poverty more widely, the use of nuclear - both power and weapons, migration, education, the NHS, human rights, ...  (I could carry on for another 7 or 8 lines).  After all, evangelicalism - the announcing of the good news - is Biblically far more radical than liberalism.  After all, that is what got the Jewish religious leaders so angry.  I would go as far as to say that some parts of US evangelicalism is nearer to liberalism than most british evangelicalism.

In his play 'Destiny', David Edgar has one of his characters - an extreme left-winger - say that 'Right is left; Left is right' - and yes, there is a double meaning there.  He envisions the political spectrum as a circle, so that the further left you go, the nearer the right you end up.

I think the difficulty that some folk have is they find it hard to pair those 'left-wing' concerns many evangelicals have with their more 'conservative' attitude to sexuality and abortion. Thery tend to regard views on these two issues as marker issues, whereas I and many other evangelicals I know don't.

[ippy]

'New import'?  The National Front/BF and their various namesakes (including UKIP) have been playing the 'Christian' card for decades.  Certainly for as long as I can remember - and that's probably 50+ years.
It's not that simple, RG.  My evangelical-ness is, in part, why I'm concerned with the environment, with the problems surrounding homelessness, and poverty more widely, the use of nuclear - both power and weapons, migration, education, the NHS, human rights, ...  (I could carry on for another 7 or 8 lines).  After all, evangelicalism - the announcing of the good news - is Biblically far more radical than liberalism.  After all, that is what got the Jewish religious leaders so angry.  I would go as far as to say that some parts of US evangelicalism is nearer to liberalism than most british evangelicalism.

In his play 'Destiny', David Edgar has one of his characters - an extreme left-winger - say that 'Right is left; Left is right' - and yes, there is a double meaning there.  He envisions the political spectrum as a circle, so that the further left you go, the nearer the right you end up.

I think the difficulty that some folk have is they find it hard to pair those 'left-wing' concerns many evangelicals have with their more 'conservative' attitude to sexuality and abortion. Thery tend to regard views on these two issues as marker issues, whereas I and many other evangelicals I know don't.

I've not seen any racism, other than used as a slur on UKIP by those fearful of them making any headway, by use of the mud sticks principle.

I'm sure I have mentioned my own two children are mixed race and if I thought for one moment any movement was wholly racist naturally it would effect my regard of that organisation, unfortunatly there will always be some racists in most organisations.

Other than their resolve to exit the EU, I've not got a lot in common with them politically, there's a fair bit wrong with them, but a racist movement or anything like the NF etc, no they're not guilty of that.

I'm only making my point about racism please don't involve me in any of the rest of it.

ippy
 

[Bubbles]

I've not seen any racism, other than used as a slur on UKIP by those fearful of them making any headway, by use of the mud sticks principle.

I'm sure I have mentioned my own two children are mixed race and if I thought for one moment any movement was wholly racist naturally it would effect my regard of that organisation, unfortunatly there will always be some racists in most organisations.

Other than their resolve to exit the EU, I've not got a lot in common with them politically, there's a fair bit wrong with them, but a racist movement or anything like the NF etc, no they're not guilty of that.

I'm only making my point about racism please don't involve me in any of the rest of it.

ippy

If UKIP isn't racist then it suffers from having members that appear to be total cretins.

If someone belongs to a party that is trying to lose that image if it's wrong, you would think they would make an effort to create the right image.

UKIP don't do that though.

http://leftfootforward.org/2015/02/is-ukip-a-racist-party-these-15-comments-would-suggest-so/


They need Nigel Farage to get some packing tape to shut them up, because some of his party are total idiots who couldn't create the right impression if they tried.

If the media are likely to be picking up the slightest hint, they should be careful not to give them any ammo.

They have really made some clangers, and it might be media led, but admitting to having problems with negroid features?

They can't  even get it together themselves, let alone run the country.

I expect some self control in a polititian.

🌹

[Bubbles]

12. After the death of Nelson Mandela, West London UKIP member David William Griffiths wrote in the members-only forum that some people were ‘intended by nature’ to be slaves. Meanwhile Pamela Preedy, secretary of UKIP’s Redcar branch, questioned why Mandela’s death had received so much coverage since he ‘had nothing to do with Britain’.

If he really wrote that, he is completely unsuitable to have any part in running  a country where we want equality.

 God help us if we have a leader that thinks that some people are " born to be slaves"


IMO

 

The problem is, too many of them have the wrong attitude IMO.

It's Britain first, BNP , national front by another name.

Either that or UKIP attracts members with two left feet.

If they put one in their mouth, at least they couldn't make the gaffes they do.