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Rhiannon

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Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« on: February 13, 2016, 10:21:08 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-35565085

And I thought the CofE moved slowly.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2016, 10:24:17 AM »
The only thing the story finally proves is that the Pope really does wear a big hat.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 12:14:09 PM »
I must admit I didn't know there was a big problem.  Of course I know some of the history, schism and all that, but there doesn't appear to have been much of a problem that I know of.  The Orthodox people I've met on forums believe they were the originals!  Like any others, they differ between themselves - Russian, Greek, Eastern.  The Russians believe the Russian royal family, Romanovs, are saints and venerate them.

At my old school, which was Catholic, some Orthodox clergy came and said Mass in the chapel.  It was after my time but I was told about it and everyone was enthralled with the drama, quite a change from the usual Catholic 20mins-half an hour do!  Catholics are taught that they may receive the sacraments at an Orthodox church - but I was told quite firmly, on forums, that Orthodox may not be very happy about that!  So the way I see it, Catholics respect Orthodoxy and the Orthodox consider Catholics to be a sawn off second rate version  :D.  All seems silly to me but I don't practice anything.

Sorry if all this, or some of it, has been said but I couldn't open the link.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2016, 12:27:13 PM »
I don't know about the orthodox lot, but the Catholic church wants to spend its time getting rid of the paedophile priest problem it has had for so long!
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2016, 12:31:36 PM »
There is no reconciliation. That can only happen once Rome completely and utterly repents of all its errors. First Rome must confess the orthodox faith.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2016, 12:36:37 PM »
It was nice to see the fancy dress. I fear the eastern guy overdid it a bit and the Pope was a tad insipid.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2016, 12:45:59 PM »
Dear Leonard,

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It was nice to see the fancy dress. I fear the eastern guy overdid it a bit and the Pope was a tad insipid.

 :P :P

Leonard James, the Gok Wan of Holy fashion. :P

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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2016, 05:52:18 PM »
Quote from: Gonnagle on February 13, 2016, 12:45:59 PM
Dear Leonard,

 :P :P

Leonard James, the Gok Wan of Holy fashion. :P

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Come on, Gonners, you can see as well as anybody else what a farcical parade of finery these religious moguls wear, just to impress and maintain the gullible in awe.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2016, 05:52:57 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 13, 2016, 12:31:36 PM
There is no reconciliation. That can only happen once Rome completely and utterly repents of all its errors. First Rome must confess the orthodox faith.
Building bridges and extending the hand of friendship as ever, ad_o ... ::)
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 06:25:35 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 13, 2016, 12:31:36 PM
There is no reconciliation. That can only happen once Rome completely and utterly repents of all its errors. First Rome must confess the orthodox faith.

Good to see you spreading the Christian love.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2016, 06:50:15 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2016, 06:59:50 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on February 13, 2016, 06:50:15 PM
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Too bleedin' true!  >:(
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2016, 07:05:58 PM »
Oh my, our resident Christianity hater is calling out a Christian on bridge building. Only a fool would  walk across a bridge he's built.

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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2016, 07:08:51 PM »
Quote from: OH MY WORLD! on February 13, 2016, 07:05:58 PM
Oh my, our resident Christianity hater is calling out a Christian on bridge building. Only a fool would  walk across a bridge he's built.
I gather that architects and engineers do it regularly.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 07:10:02 PM »
Quote from: OH MY WORLD! on February 13, 2016, 07:05:58 PM
Oh my, our resident Christianity hater is calling out a Christian on bridge building. Only a fool would  walk across a bridge he's built.

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2016, 07:11:48 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on February 13, 2016, 07:10:02 PM
You know ad-o thinks you've been led astray by the devil?
He seems to think that of anybody who isn't ad_o, frankly.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2016, 07:12:50 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on February 13, 2016, 07:10:02 PM
You know ad-o thinks you've been led astray by the devil?

I strongly doubt that ad-o thought of it himself ... he's just parroting what he's been fooled into believing. :)
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2016, 07:54:10 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on February 13, 2016, 05:52:57 PM
Building bridges and extending the hand of friendship as ever, ad_o ... ::)

Dialogue is fine but at the end of the day there are serious isdues thst need to be resolved first. Rome needs to repent of its errors first. The Patriarch will have made it clear as well. Rome doesn't even confess the same creed. How can there ve communion if they do not even confess the same faith?
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2016, 07:56:27 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 13, 2016, 07:54:10 PM
Dialogue is fine but at the end of the day there are serious isdues thst need to be resolved first. Rome needs to repent of its errors first. The Patriarch will have made it clear as well. Rome doesn't even confess the same creed. How can there ve communion if they do not even confess the same faith?
No hope for the likes of you. Really no hope at all.

That phrase about two bald men squabbling over a comb springs to mind.

Still, while sentient creatures (humans amongst them) suffer horrifically, and millions go without food decent or un-decent, and little kiddies don't have clean water to drink without cholera-laden human shit in it, and families scrape together an existence scrabbling through the giant trash hills of Indian cities, you can worry yourself to sleep about whether the Father proceeds from the Son or the Son proceeds from the Father and other really, really, really important stuff about whether the church you used to think a couple of years ago was the final, absolute and unchangeable truth of God's revelation to humanity or whether the other church that claims exactly the same is this month, and consider it a good day of your life well spent. It's nice to be happy.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2016, 08:14:16 PM »
Quote from: Floo on February 13, 2016, 12:27:13 PM
I don't know about the orthodox lot, but the Catholic church wants to spend its time getting rid of the paedophile priest problem it has had for so long!

"Wants to" or "needs to?"  I fail to see what your statement, said in your axiomatical way, has to do with the reconciliation of Catholicism and Orthodoxy, floo.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016, 08:20:26 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on February 13, 2016, 08:14:16 PM
"Wants to" or "needs to?"
Needs to.

The wanting seems to be somewhat lacking.
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Re: Orthodox and Catholic Churches reconcile
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 08:27:53 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 13, 2016, 07:54:10 PM
Dialogue is fine but at the end of the day there are serious isdues thst need to be resolved first. Rome needs to repent of its errors first. The Patriarch will have made it clear as well. Rome doesn't even confess the same creed. How can there ve communion if they do not even confess the same faith?

You do realise this makes as much sense as arguing over the number of angels that can dance on a pinhead?
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2016, 08:46:01 PM »
Quote from: Rhiannon on February 13, 2016, 08:27:53 PM
You do realise this makes as much sense as arguing over the number of angels that can dance on a pinhead?

Not the same at all.
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2016, 08:55:34 PM »
Quote from: ad_orientem on February 13, 2016, 08:46:01 PM
Not the same at all.

I didn't say they were the same. I said that they make as much sense. One argument got left in the Middle Ages where it belongs and the other didn't, but should have.
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2016, 09:00:49 PM »
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