Manny Pacquiao

[Gordon]

One response to the theory that homosexuality in animals justifies it in humans is to argue that if it does then rape or filial cannibalism in animals justifies the same behaviour in humans.

The above is nauseating nonsense, Spud. 

[Shaker]

The above is nauseating nonsense, Spud.

With the emphasis on the nonsense, given that (as NS has pointed out) nobody argues that what happens in non-human animals justifies that same thing in human animals; it's a refutation of those like Pacquiao who claim that something like homosexual behaviour is exclusively human, when there's so much evidence to the contrary.

But as this forum is a daily reminder, evidence to the contrary is no barrier to some people.

[Spud]

I've never seen the argument that it 'justifies', just seen people point out in reply to idiots who state it is unnatural that it does happen in many other animal.


Your blatant strawman with yet another of these facile comparisons to something like rape or cannibalism is tedious an irrelevant. Come back when you actually want to have a discussion rather than spew fatuous nonsense.

Interesting that you call him an idiot for assuming that animals don't have homosexual relationships.

[Brownie]

Yes, 'innocence' would have been a better description.  Many people have no idea about the animal kingdom, other than humans, unless they read a lot or someone enlightens them.

Bonobo chimpanzees are known to be - fluid - in their relationships.  Male rabbits will try to mate with anything that moves if they are in the mood.

[ippy]

Agree. There's also the argument that boxing clubs do provide discipline, friendship and direction for disaffected young people - many boxers testify that without boxing it would have been a life of crime for them.

I was dead against boxing but on hearing much the same argument you refer to, I changed my mind about boxing and was convinced it's a worthwhile trade off, it's still not my idea of fun.

One of my sons took up kick boxing I  couldn't bear to watch any of it.

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