Religious advertising

[Rhiannon]

Just got this with my local newspaper.

http://quranproject.org/The-Quran-Project-Newspaper-Campaign-has-begun-594-d

Not in Croydon, obviously.

I feel rather irritated by it. 

[Leonard James]

If anybody can tell me of an atheist group seeking to do the same thing, I shall contribute immediately.

Religious advertising can mislead young minds.

[Rhiannon]

This us my local free newspaper and it gets stuck through my letterbox uninvited. I don't want this in my home. Regardless of which religion or lack thereof.

[Shaker]

If anybody can tell me of an atheist group seeking to do the same thing, I shall contribute immediately.

Doesn't happen though, Len:

http://goo.gl/iKGOE9

[Humph Warden Bennett]

This us my local free newspaper and it gets stuck through my letterbox uninvited. I don't want this in my home. Regardless of which religion or lack thereof.

Obviously the Croydon Guardian do not feel strongly enough about it so as not to take the money. Ask them not to deliver to you.

[Rhiannon]

I would if I lived there. This is clearly getting rolled out to other areas.

[Leonard James]

Doesn't happen though, Len:

http://goo.gl/iKGOE9

 

Atheists would never be that stupid ... and I am unanimous in that. 

[Nearly Sane]

We're back in the advert in the cinema territory here. The cinema took one devision, the croydon Advertiser another. Fair enough, as long as the advert is judged ok in terms legal compliance can't see a problem.


As to various other comments, well we know that atheists have gone down the advert path previously so saying that they don't is incorrect. And pulling the old all atheists are more intelligent than the dumb theists line is simple shit stirring.

[Leonard James]

We're back in the advert in the cinema territory here. The cinema took one devision, the croydon Advertiser another. Fair enough, as long as the advert is judged ok in terms legal compliance can't see a problem.


As to various other comments, well we know that atheists have gone down the advert path previously so saying that they don't is incorrect. And pulling the old all atheists are more intelligent than the dumb theists line is simple shit stirring.

Theists are more credulous than atheists.

[ProfessorDavey]

Ask them not to deliver to you.

In order to do that you would need to know in advance that it was going to be included (most people won't) and when (again most people won't) - the first most people will know about it is when it comes throughout their door, so too late.

And I doubt you'd get very far telling your local newspaper not to deliver just one copy to you. They simply wouldn't do that, and indeed I don't think they really have the mechanisms in their delivery process to selectively deliver to numbers 1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 15 etc, but not to number 7 and 13.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Leonard,

Theists are more credulous than atheists.

Really!! you guys have been banging your atheist drum since forever, still not convinced, try obstinate, theists are obstinate, or maybe that old one, we go around with our fingers in our ears singing trala trala.

Gonnagle.

[Nearly Sane]

Theists are more credulous than atheists.

to go all Mandy Rice-Davies 'well, you would say that, wouldn't you?' if you think you are right not to believe then by definition you think those who do are 'credulous'. That would, if course, if one was so inclined to make massive unsubstantiated generalisations about any and all such people whose exoeriences one not only might not know about, but couldn't share because of the problems of hard solipsism.

How easy it must be to classify billions of people as credulous and stupid. Stupid , credulous Gonnagle stupid credulous Rhiannon,old sainted mother o NS, how stupid and credulous is she!

[Humph Warden Bennett]

In order to do that you would need to know in advance that it was going to be included (most people won't) and when (again most people won't) - the first most people will know about it is when it comes throughout their door, so too late.

And I doubt you'd get very far telling your local newspaper not to deliver just one copy to you. They simply wouldn't do that, and indeed I don't think they really have the mechanisms in their delivery process to selectively deliver to numbers 1, 3, 5, 9, 11, 15 etc, but not to number 7 and 13.

If I did not want the local paper delivered for a week or two or more I would simply ask the papergirl not to deliver.

[Nearly Sane]

If I did not want the local paper delivered for a week or two or more I would simply ask the papergirl not to deliver.

So you would phone up the paper each week to check for any adverts you didn’t want and then pop out and tell the person delivering even if you didn't know them, or when they were delivering, so they might actually turn up when you aren't there, to not deliver the paper?


I mean, I think, Rhiannon is making a bit much of this but your solution is somewhat Heath Robinson.

[Rhiannon]

I was irritated by it. I would have been irritated if it had been any other faith or the BHS. If I want this stuff I'll go looking for it.

[Nearly Sane]

Which is fine, people can be irritated by adverts, advertisers can refuse to take or accept them and the fact that some people might be irritated by them.

[jeremyp]

I was irritated by it. I would have been irritated if it had been any other faith or the BHS. If I want this stuff I'll go looking for it.

Pretty much every single advert ever irritates me. I put up with them though because the media needs them to subsidise their business model.

[ProfessorDavey]

If I did not want the local paper delivered for a week or two or more I would simply ask the papergirl not to deliver.

How would you do that - do you spend all your day in the house? I don't think I have ever laid eyes on the person who delivers our free local paper, usually on a Thursday.

I also suspect that your paper-girl is not allowed to not deliver to a house on the basis of a conversation that has no record. Remember that advertiser pay their money on the basis of a set number of houses their advert (in a local paper) is delivered to. If the delivery person is making decisions not to deliver to a proportion of the properties I think there would be some sting questions being asked, and possibly a return of advertising fees if the number of 'non deliveries' becomes significant.

[SweetPea]

Some of our neighbours have a notice somewhere at the front of their house saying, "No free newspapers, thank-you".

Some extend the notice to "No leaflet dropping" which is good if you don't want to receive junk mail.

Both appear to work well. 

[Udayana]

How would you do that - do you spend all your day in the house? I don't think I have ever laid eyes on the person who delivers our free local paper, usually on a Thursday.

I also suspect that your paper-girl is not allowed to not deliver to a house on the basis of a conversation that has no record. Remember that advertiser pay their money on the basis of a set number of houses their advert (in a local paper) is delivered to. If the delivery person is making decisions not to deliver to a proportion of the properties I think there would be some sting questions being asked, and possibly a return of advertising fees if the number of 'non deliveries' becomes significant.

This would work for us. Someone delivers a local free paper every week so we know the delivery (in this case) boy - though the delivery person changes every couple of years or so. Of-course the deliveries are checked from time to time to ensure that as many copies as possible are distributed and not being dumped in a convenient bin.

There was a free fancy magazine, country house style, that used to be delivered -  but, following a single complaint, the distributors decided to not continue delivering it to any of the houses in the area/estate - causing a certain degree of bad feeling.

Generally, there's not a lot that can be done about unwanted advertising being delivered especially if it isn't covered by the Mail Preference Service.

[Udayana]

Some of our neighbours have a notice somewhere at the front of their house saying, "No free newspapers, thank-you".

Some extend the notice to "No leaflet dropping" which is good if you don't want to receive junk mail.

Both appear to work well.

Sounds like the best approach.

[ProfessorDavey]

This would work for us. Someone delivers a local free paper every week so we know the delivery (in this case) boy - though the delivery person changes every couple of years or so. Of-course the deliveries are checked from time to time to ensure that as many copies as possible are distributed and not being dumped in a convenient bin.

It might work for you (or perhaps Humph) but certainly not for us as the delivery is not when there are people around in the house. My issue with Humph was his rather glib assertion that all you had to do was ask your delivery person not to deliver. That isn't going to be possible for loads of people.

[ProfessorDavey]

Some of our neighbours have a notice somewhere at the front of their house saying, "No free newspapers, thank-you".

Some extend the notice to "No leaflet dropping" which is good if you don't want to receive junk mail.

Both appear to work well.

That might work OK if you don't want a paper any week, but not on a specific week, which you wouldn't be able to determine as you'd only know that week's paper contained the offending advert when it arrived.

I've also been told that many deliverers won't take any notice of 'no leaflets' as they are paid to deliver the leaflets and that's what they will do to every house. On the basis that if the householder doesn't want the leaflet it is their responsibility to put it in the bin - the deliverers responsibility is to deliver it!!

So notes of this type may, or may not work.

[OH MY WORLD!]

I am glad the atheists here are against those stunted atheist propaganda slogans on public transport. (snork)


The door to door atheist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG8sYuns9Uo

[floo]

Some of our neighbours have a notice somewhere at the front of their house saying, "No free newspapers, thank-you".

Some extend the notice to "No leaflet dropping" which is good if you don't want to receive junk mail.

Both appear to work well.

They don't usually take a blind bit of notice, all our junk leaflets goes into the gerbil cage unread, for it to shred!