Mary Magdalene.

[Jack Knave]

In Our Time this week did a programme on Mary Magdalene and it was said that the name Magdalene has its roots in the term tower. They said it may refer to a town(s) with that part of its name in it.

I had the idea that it also could mean tall, and as it was pointed out JC gave some of his followers nick names like Peter the Rock etc. So perhaps Mary was tall. Then I had another thought about the disciple that JC loved; mentioned at the end of John. Perhaps Mary was a he or that this disciple was a she. Either she dressed as a man for some reason because of biases towards women by the culture at the time, and so to blend in with the rest of the Apostles, or that he was a cross dresser and so on.

Just some wild musing.......however, any thoughts anyone?

[Shaker]

Only that Life of Brian got there before you

https://youtu.be/bDe9msExUK8

[Jack Knave]

Only that Life of Brian got there before you

https://youtu.be/bDe9msExUK8

That's no shakes on me, those guys are kings.

[Rhiannon]

The terrible thing about Mary Magdalene was the slander against her by the Western church linking her with the woman caught in adultery. Because of the medieval church's attitude to sex it devalued her, and hence the role she plays in the resurrection narratives, right through to modern times. And of course it also gave license for Christians to paint some porn in the name of religious art.

Yet another triumph from the church when it comes to women and sex then.

[Rhiannon]

Not formatting brilliantly on my phone but this from Lucy Winkett is worth a read.

http://www.womenpriests.org/magdala/winkett.asp

[Khatru]

The terrible thing about Mary Magdalene was the slander against her by the Western church linking her with the woman caught in adultery. Because of the medieval church's attitude to sex it devalued her, and hence the role she plays in the resurrection narratives, right through to modern times. And of course it also gave license for Christians to paint some porn in the name of religious art.

Yet another triumph from the church when it comes to women and sex then.

The disturbing part of this particular myth is that it's all about the woman caught in adultery.   Where is the man?  Why isn't he getting stoned?

[ekim]

The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene might give a clue ...... http://www.gnosis.org/library/marygosp.htm

[Jack Knave]

The disturbing part of this particular myth is that it's all about the woman caught in adultery.   Where is the man?  Why isn't he getting stoned?

Because he didn't say Jehovah!!!.....by the women in beards

[Jack Knave]

It has just dawned on me the Python lot were playing women who were dressed up and posing as men!

[Brownie]

The disturbing part of this particular myth is that it's all about the woman caught in adultery.   Where is the man?  Why isn't he getting stoned?

He probably was stoned Khatru, and couldn't be bothered to go out that day  .

I take your point though, it was always the woman who got the blame.  Never understood that.

[Sassy]

In Our Time this week did a programme on Mary Magdalene and it was said that the name Magdalene has its roots in the term tower. They said it may refer to a town(s) with that part of its name in it.

I had the idea that it also could mean tall, and as it was pointed out JC gave some of his followers nick names like Peter the Rock etc. So perhaps Mary was tall. Then I had another thought about the disciple that JC loved; mentioned at the end of John. Perhaps Mary was a he or that this disciple was a she. Either she dressed as a man for some reason because of biases towards women by the culture at the time, and so to blend in with the rest of the Apostles, or that he was a cross dresser and so on.

Just some wild musing.......however, any thoughts anyone?

Here is a thought for you.

If you can't say anything sensible then don't say anything at all.

[OH MY WORLD!]

Khtru,
Have you even bothered to read John chapter 8? What's with you? It was staged to trap Christ. Nobody had condemned that women for adultery. So who cares about her fake or real lovers. She went home and carried on life, she wasn't stoned. Read the chapter slowly if it helps you, her accusers melted away.  Yikes man!

[OH MY WORLD!]

Well Jack, I have to say you remind me of Floo and her stunted, was Jesus gay. You want to accuse or slander for kicks? You got the evidence for your stunted notion? No of course you don't. I would more easily believe you to be a cross dresser.

Mary was called Magdalene because she came from the town of Magdala. A town north of Tiberias along the coast of the Sea of Galilee. Several women followed Christ after they were healed. Mary was one that has demons cast out of her. But goof off off come along and tell us Christ was gay but married Mary and moved to France to get away from his crossdressing lover John. Pathetic and stunted to the max.

[Khatru]

Khtru,
Have you even bothered to read John chapter 8? What's with you? It was staged to trap Christ. Nobody had condemned that women for adultery. So who cares about her fake or real lovers. She went home and carried on life, she wasn't stoned. Read the chapter slowly if it helps you, her accusers melted away.  Yikes man!

You do know that this particular myth doesn't appear in the earliest documents.  It doesn't even show up on our earliest bibles.

Like most of John, it was an add-on approved by the Catholic Church some centuries later.

[Khatru]

Well Jack, I have to say you remind me of Floo and her stunted, was Jesus gay. You want to accuse or slander for kicks? You got the evidence for your stunted notion? No of course you don't. I would more easily believe you to be a cross dresser.

Mary was called Magdalene because she came from the town of Magdala. A town north of Tiberias along the coast of the Sea of Galilee. Several women followed Christ after they were healed. Mary was one that has demons cast out of her. But goof off off come along and tell us Christ was gay but married Mary and moved to France to get away from his crossdressing lover John. Pathetic and stunted to the max.

You can't slander someone who doesn't exist.

[Hope]

The terrible thing about Mary Magdalene was the slander against her by the Western church linking her with the woman caught in adultery. Because of the medieval church's attitude to sex it devalued her, and hence the role she plays in the resurrection narratives, right through to modern times. And of course it also gave license for Christians to paint some porn in the name of religious art.

Yet another triumph from the church when it comes to women and sex then.

I'd have thought that linking her with the woman caught in adultery (after all, there is no definitive evidence either way) would actually be very powerful evidence for the grace and mercy of Jesus.  Here was a woman who, in the culture of the time, was a complete outcast being used by Jesus to announcehis resurrection.  It is certainly the approach that many preachers I've heard have taken.

[Hope]

The disturbing part of this particular myth is that it's all about the woman caught in adultery.   Where is the man?  Why isn't he getting stoned?

Khat, think about the way that the Jewish religious leaders had added huge amounts of 'gloss' to the basic laws laid out by God.  They had made everything out to be the woman's fault, though we all know that the 'fault' is often on the other boot.

[Hope]

You can't slander someone who doesn't exist.

Yet you argue as if he does, in just about every post, Khat.

[Shaker]

Yet you argue as if he does, in just about every post, Khat.

Nope. That's arguing on the basis of the beliefs you lot hold and the claims you make, not because he believes them and makes the same claims.

This is standard operating procedure. You really don't seem to be up to speed with this whole debate thing at all.

[Khatru]

Yet you argue as if he does, in just about every post, Khat.

That doesn't mean I actually believe in the Bible god.

I just argue against what you are asserting is real.

[Hope]

That doesn't mean I actually believe in the Bible god.

I just argue against what you are asserting is real.

So, you are arguing against something that you don't fully understand.

[Khatru]

So, you are arguing against something that you don't fully understand.

Why don't I fully understand it?

[Hope]

Nope. That's arguing on the basis of the beliefs you lot hold and the claims you make, not because he believes them and makes the same claims.

This is standard operating procedure. You really don't seem to be up to speed with this whole debate thing at all.

Actually, Shakes, the standard operating procedure for debate is for those debating to be at least on the same wavelength with each other.  That is generally not the case here, where one side seems to limit the debate to a single aspect of life, the other having a broader outlook.

[Shaker]

That's the other side which, despite repeated requests, never once provides any evidence for this alleged other component of reality and a methodology for evaluating it, i.e. a demonstration that this so-called "broader outlook" isn't exactly what it looks like, which is an emotion-driven, fallacy-laden fantasy land.

Perhaps if you'd finally stump up with that then we'd be "on the same wavelength."

[Hope]

Why don't I fully understand it?

From what you have said in your posts suggests that you don't accept that reality is anything other than naturalistic.  If that is the case, you don't understand that there could be other aspects to reality.