Author Topic: The dark side of human nature  (Read 17823 times)

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2016, 12:39:36 PM »
But to be fair not ALL theists come out with the crazy garbage which Sass does with almost every post.
No.

It just helps.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2016, 12:40:20 PM »
We are not animals.. We named animals, animals... and we also were the caretakers of what God created.
Only man could believe his own stupid made up reasoning. A reasoning which excludes God.
Even those Christian Scientist do not stoop to such stupidity.
It is as stupid as evolution believes that simple forms of life spontaneously arose from non-life.
God created man in his own image he is not listed in the animals and their kinds.

Man is made in the image of God and is not an animal.

Apart from that last line of your post being just another one of your many assertions, that as per usual you are unable to back it up.

What's wrong with being a human animal Sass? A mammal.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2016, 02:21:25 PM »
Of course we are animals. You don't half talk a load of silly nonsense! ::)
Ever seen an animal talking about the weather? Driving a car? Flying a plane?
Because animals do not do those things.

Big clue but no brains to conceive hence the stupidity of mans own nature.
He makes himself lesser because he can't cope with the fact a higher being made him and the man named all the animals.
Animals are animals and humans are humans. Only man could make himself out to be lower than an animal.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2016, 02:32:02 PM »
Ever seen an animal talking about the weather? Driving a car? Flying a plane?

Yes.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2016, 04:47:53 PM »
Yes.

Love this post of yours SKoS, go on, I can hardly wait for the rest of it, you must have really confused Sassy.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2016, 09:34:01 PM »
http://tinyurl.com/jhq9g24

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2016, 10:04:30 PM »
http://tinyurl.com/jhq9g24

Love it, have you ever thought how sensible it is for women to have pink cars, no self respecting bloke is going to nick it, ever.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2016, 10:49:49 PM »
It's come out as one heck of a long link, wider than the page.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2016, 10:53:28 PM »
It's come out as one heck of a long link, wider than the page.
Try tinyurl

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2016, 10:57:49 PM »
No NS, I'll let it die now I think, wasn't that funny.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2016, 11:00:45 PM »
No NS, I'll let it die now I think, wasn't that funny.
Why aren't you willing to edit your post with tinyurl? How hard is it?

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2016, 06:17:23 AM »

That is all a load of stupid and outdated rot.



Agreed.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2016, 11:07:08 AM »
Why aren't you willing to edit your post with tinyurl? How hard is it?

I was a bit embarrassed by it tbh, wished I hadn't posted something so flippant.  I was going to delete had you not replied.  Then I came on this morning and thought I would reduce it, however the mods have done it now, thanks.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2016, 11:14:51 AM »
I was a bit embarrassed by it tbh, wished I hadn't posted something so flippant.  I was going to delete had you not replied.  Then I came on this morning and thought I would reduce it, however the mods have done it now, thanks.


No problem, I was being crabbit
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2016, 11:33:37 AM »
Let's decide this one way or another....

You have a choice between killing an animal or your closest family member.

Don't ever tell me anyone thinks that animals are really equal to humans.

Why do many animals become extinct?

It is a shame we are not honest enough to admit that humans are NOT animals.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2016, 11:55:53 AM »
Let's decide this one way or another....

You have a choice between killing an animal or your closest family member.

Don't ever tell me anyone thinks that animals are really equal to humans.

Why do many animals become extinct?

It is a shame we are not honest enough to admit that humans are NOT animals.

Clearly humans are animals, that is just a matter of biological fact. We are primates with particular cognitive specialisations for language and so forth.  We might well go extinct, most species do, that is in the nature of things. We like to think we are smart; we might be smart enough to survive climate change, we might be smart enough to survive  nuclear war or global pandemics.  We probably will not survive the next significant astronomical event though.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2016, 12:16:01 PM »
Clearly humans are animals, that is just a matter of biological fact. We are primates with particular cognitive specialisations for language and so forth.  We might well go extinct, most species do, that is in the nature of things. We like to think we are smart; we might be smart enough to survive climate change, we might be smart enough to survive  nuclear war or global pandemics.  We probably will not survive the next significant astronomical event though.

Rubbish,

There are NO biological facts that make human animals. Such is the truth we the Human made up the name for the animal kingdom and put them under one heading. Never including ourselves and giving each animal a type.

Are  you really so full of pride you allow yourself to become less than you are because God is greater and gives humans a higher place.

You and I both know you would choose your closest person than an animal because we love humans differently to how we love animals. We can make that choice, they cannot.
We know we have to work together to abolish war and terrorism to create a compassionate  world in which Justice and peace prevail. Love ;D   Einstein
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2016, 12:20:31 PM »
Rubbish,

There are NO biological facts that make human animals. Such is the truth we the Human made up the name for the animal kingdom and put them under one heading. Never including ourselves and giving each animal a type.

Are  you really so full of pride you allow yourself to become less than you are because God is greater and gives humans a higher place.

You and I both know you would choose your closest person than an animal because we love humans differently to how we love animals. We can make that choice, they cannot.

Oh Sass, of course we are a species of animal, sad you can't see it!

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2016, 12:39:39 PM »
There are NO biological facts that make human animals.

That Sassy, is called "bearing false witness" - it makes your god all cross, so I've heard.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #44 on: May 24, 2016, 12:46:42 PM »
There are NO biological facts that make human animals. Such is the truth we the Human made up the name for the animal kingdom and put them under one heading. Never including ourselves and giving each animal a type.

Every aspect of our biology and every aspect of our genetics is consistent with the view that we are animals of primate lineage.  Consider what those two milk producing glands that human females sport are.  They are what define us as mammals, whether you like it or not. So, do we look reality in the face and try to understand, and come to terms with it; or do we bury our heads in the naïve stories of less educated ancient peoples as some sort of escapist substitute ?  Reality has a way of creeping up on us Sass, sooner or later, and the more you invest in fanciful belief systems, the less prepared you will be to make sense of reality when it comes up and bites you from behind  ;)

You and I both know you would choose your closest person than an animal because we love humans differently to how we love animals. We can make that choice, they cannot.

That's as maybe.   But we still bleed when cut. We still breathe oxygen even though it slowly kills us.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2016, 01:06:22 PM »
That Sassy, is called "bearing false witness" - it makes your god all cross, so I've heard.
Says the animal about his creator...

See how stupid your answer really is...

Seems the only thing cross on here is your own inability to separate yourself from that which you are caretaker off, to that which is under the caretaker. Is it any wonder you cannot believe in your creator,

I am dealing with facts... We are not animals we gave the names to all individual species and lumped them altogether under the one title animals. The bible makes the clear distinction between man and animal.

I guess the donkeys only know how to eat their carrots because they cannot plough  the fields and sow their own.
Does that make man a different type of ass?


We all see why mankind is mankind and not an animal. Believe what you want because even an animal isn't dumb enough to pretend there is no difference between animals and humans.

Humans are not animals... here endeth the first lesson. :)
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2016, 03:23:37 PM »
Says the animal about his creator...

See how stupid your answer really is...

Seems the only thing cross on here is your own inability to separate yourself from that which you are caretaker off, to that which is under the caretaker. Is it any wonder you cannot believe in your creator,

I am dealing with facts
... We are not animals we gave the names to all individual species and lumped them altogether under the one title animals. The bible makes the clear distinction between man and animal.

I guess the donkeys only know how to eat their carrots because they cannot plough  the fields and sow their own.
Does that make man a different type of ass?


We all see why mankind is mankind and not an animal. Believe what you want because even an animal isn't dumb enough to pretend there is no difference between animals and humans.

Humans are not animals... here endeth the first lesson. :)

Yoiu couldn't recognise a fact if it hit you squarely between the eyes!

The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #48 on: May 24, 2016, 04:26:46 PM »
Ever seen an animal talking about the weather? Driving a car? Flying a plane?

La Sass - I've never seen any of those but I have to say, I did once have a cat that did impersonations.  No lie.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #49 on: May 24, 2016, 04:49:08 PM »
La Sass - I've never seen any of those but I have to say, I did once have a cat that did impersonations.  No lie.
Err yes, you have. All the talking about the weather, driving cars (other than driverless cars and flying planes you have seen have been done by animals.