Author Topic: The dark side of human nature  (Read 17791 times)

torridon

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2016, 03:28:20 PM »
There is one fact that seems to shiow that humanity is not superior to bacteria,

we rely on bacteria in our gut to prevent us falling foul of more than a few diseases, and, as we are finding to our cost, bacteria and similar microscopic organisms can kill humans far more effectively than humans can kill these microscopic orgaisms.

The common cold anf flu viruses, in all their many varieties, have shown that they can evolve to circumvent our efforts to erdicate them, humans have shown, so far, very limited ability to evolve immunity to those micro-organisms.

Human evolution is very slow compared to most species; and now that we have universal health care, natural selection pressures are near eliminated.  Mind you there is a girl next door with a nice bum,  so I guess sexual selection is still as strong as ever.  Bacteria evolve far faster than us, by a factor of hundred thousand or so; viruses even faster still.  Microbes are consummate evolvers.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2016, 04:33:12 PM »
Human evolution is very slow compared to most species;
Although humanity is replete with people who have evolved from Hero to Zero overnight.......or as I prefer
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2016, 07:31:33 PM »
Although humanity is replete with people who have evolved from Hero to Zero overnight.......or as I prefer
..........from anchor to wa........

Of course you prefer that version - you see the evidence of its truth every time you look in a mirror!
The Holy Bible, probably the most diabolical work of fiction ever to be visited upon mankind.

An it harm none, do what you will; an it harm some, do what you must!

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #78 on: August 01, 2016, 09:23:31 AM »
If anything this thread is the perfect example of why man has not progressed. They can't get past the arguments amongst themselves long enough to examine the truth.

They attach themselves to any belief which will support their chosen belief.
Whilst truth seekers only adopt beliefs which are proven to themselves.

Not one of you are showing the intelligence you were born with. God exists and he is still the only evidence which has not been disproved. Scientist make claims and then make new claims. But never make solid claims.
Man is aware of his own mortality and animals are not. A CLEAR distinction as to why we are not animals.

But hey you are quite good at making yourself out to be buffoons and who knows maybe the animals are laughing at you in their own way. Superior in all ways but still trying to pretend you are an animal. Would animals be daft enough?
Truth is they wouldn't blooming care because they are animals they have no understanding of the argument.

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« Reply #79 on: August 01, 2016, 10:28:32 AM »
Buffoon and Sass, fit each other like hand in glove! :D

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #80 on: August 01, 2016, 10:32:16 AM »
Buffoon and Sass, fit each other like hand in glove! :D
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No human terrorist, however bad, is a patch on the Biblical god when it comes to evil deeds.

Is there no end to your ignorance or no length you will not go to to make unfounded lies against God?

God only punished evil. Tell me what evil terrorist are punishing?

Now may God  make all who know you come to know the truth  ....that you speak without thinking to the ends of your own heart.
Putting evil for good and good for evil.

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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

You see every true thinking and intelligent mind knows that terrorist do not act against people doing wrong.
The 9/11 show that terrorist hit out at innocent people and cause pain and suffering without just cause or reason.
By your words you have lied about God and worse still have made terrorist out to be not evil.

May Almighty God make it known what you have done.

I believe you are the perfect set and match for your own remark.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #81 on: August 01, 2016, 10:35:02 AM »
I got in first! :D

Sass I don't think there are too many folk on this forum who give  your posts much credence, but they can be a source of amusement from time to time.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #82 on: August 01, 2016, 10:41:20 AM »
I think we have a new species here --- homo nonsapiens -- commonly known as a buffoon.  It is a creature which thinks it is an animal and is incapable of using the intelligence it is born with.  It is believed to be the product of a buffalo mating with a baboon.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #83 on: August 01, 2016, 01:29:39 PM »


Not one of you are showing the intelligence you were born with. God exists and he is still the only evidence which has not been disproved. Scientist make claims and then make new claims. But never make solid claims.
Man is aware of his own mortality and animals are not. A CLEAR distinction as to why we are not animals.


There isn't any evidence of God to disprove.  If there were any, then all these arguments would be over in a flash.

The fact that science keeps making new 'claims' and avoiding 'solid claims' is in fact its strength.  It is by avoiding talking in certainties, by humbly accepting that all knowledge is provisional, that science remains light on its feet, not emotionally wedded to particular ideas.

The fact that we are aware of our mortality does not render us as some magic beings completely separate from other creatures. We still bleed when cut, we breathe oxygen like all other animals, we reproduce sexually and suckle our young like all other mammals. The fact that we are animals is simply an incontrovertible fact and a matter of definition.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #84 on: August 01, 2016, 01:53:29 PM »
Will keep an eye out for sensible posts. :)
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #85 on: August 01, 2016, 02:10:26 PM »
Will keep an eye out for sensible posts. :)

Oh the irony! :D

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #86 on: August 01, 2016, 02:56:18 PM »
Most humans recognise their mortality. The sensible ones accept it, the daft ones pretend they have a formula that overcomes it, and that they go to live with their "God" for ever and ever amen!

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #87 on: September 22, 2016, 01:51:46 AM »
Most humans recognise their mortality. The sensible ones accept it, the daft ones pretend they have a formula that overcomes it, and that they go to live with their "God" for ever and ever amen!
So, Leonard, don't you believe that people could believe just because it is the truth?
I see as humans that a quick fixs would not be really adequate to remove any real fear of a persons mortality. Just as atheists probably take solace in that they may believe that when they die they know nothing just cease to exist. Why would that not be okay for everyone.
If death was like that what would there be to fear?

Why would Christ do all those wonderful things if there is nothing after this life.
Could someone really do that?
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #88 on: September 22, 2016, 04:59:07 PM »
Whilst there are many good and decent people of faith, it can also bring out the very worst elements of human nature.
As can politics, science and just about every other aspect of human life, Floo.

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If god exists, why did it pick out quite a number of unpleasant people in the Bible to represent it, like Abraham, for instance?
Could it be that we are all unpleasant in our own ways, Floo, and therefore God has to use flawed and 'unpleasant' people to represent him?  After all, I can think of some pretty unpleasant people who have represented science, politics, humanity, etc.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #89 on: September 22, 2016, 05:24:01 PM »
As can politics, science and just about every other aspect of human life, Floo.
Could it be that we are all unpleasant in our own ways, Floo, and therefore God has to use flawed and 'unpleasant' people to represent him?  After all, I can think of some pretty unpleasant people who have represented science, politics, humanity, etc.
Just to note that as per the notice in Banned Posters, Floo is currently banned for 3 days

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #90 on: September 22, 2016, 06:23:06 PM »
Just to note that as per the notice in Banned Posters, Floo is currently banned for 3 days
I'm aware of that (albeit 'after the fact' of my post you have quoted).  However, a 3 day suspension allows her to catch up in a way that some of the longer suspensions don't.  As I was responding to a 'Floo' post, I referenced her.
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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #91 on: September 22, 2016, 06:50:41 PM »
I'm aware of that (albeit 'after the fact' of my post you have quoted).  However, a 3 day suspension allows her to catch up in a way that some of the longer suspensions don't.  As I was responding to a 'Floo' post, I referenced her.
I was merely informing of something you admit you didn't know.

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Re: The dark side of human nature
« Reply #92 on: September 23, 2016, 06:15:07 PM »
I didn't know either.
However, the point Hope makes about God possibly using some unpleasant people is an interesting one - because everyone has some unpleasant characteristics whether they admit it or not.  God would have quite a task looking for a perfect person to represent him.  We only have to look at the big characters in the Bible, some of whom had enormous character flaws, to illustrate the fact that there is no such perfect person!
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