What did he do wrong?

[Sebastian Toe]

...if anything? 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/12/church-prophet-runs-at-lions-to-prove-god-will-save-him-has-buttocks-mauled-5748022/

[Shaker]

If you don't regard lunatic dingbattery a crime, nothing

[Brownie]

I don't know about ''wrong'', in the sense of morally or ethically wrong, but he did act stupidly.
In the old days missionaries used to baptise converts in rivers inhabited by crocodiles!
Anyway, I hope his bum heals up OK and that he's learned not to do it again.

[Leonard James]

Like many other people, he "thought" it was what the lord wanted him to do. Brain-washed twit!

[Brownie]

I doubt it Len, more likely he is not all there, poor soul.

[Leonard James]

I doubt it Len, more likely he is not all there, poor soul.

His own words :-

"I do not know what came over me. I thought the Lord wanted to use me to show his power over animals.
‘Is it not we were given dominion over all creatures of the earth.’ "

Sounds quite all there to me, even though hopelessly brainwashed by the Bible.

[Brownie]

C'mon, who do you know, Christian, that would do something like that?
Even Christians can be a bit bonkers you know!  (Don't say the obvious)

[Leonard James]

C'mon, who do you know, Christian, that would do something like that?
Even Christians can be a bit bonkers you know!  (Don't say the obvious)

If the faith in "God" (or his representative) is strong enough and they die because of it, they become martyrs. Most of them don't have that much courage, but some do.

[floo]

It isn't the first time someone has tried a crazy stunt with wild animals to prove god would protect them, if I remember rightly. God wasn't in the arena last time either!

[Bubbles]

...if anything? 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/12/church-prophet-runs-at-lions-to-prove-god-will-save-him-has-buttocks-mauled-5748022/

 

He obviously resembled a rump steak 

His technique was all wrong, should have been more humble.

What really did make me laugh was that on your link there was a link in red about half way down to some guy called the lion whisperer, if you click on it, there is this guy cuddling wild lions ( I kid you not  )

Perhaps the Lion whisperer chappie didn't have the emphasis on god, so perhaps didn't look such an ass 

http://metro.co.uk/2016/03/04/lion-whisperer-plays-and-cuddles-with-wild-lions-in-heart-stopping-photo-shoot-5732522/

Hilarious!

I imagine the difference was something in the body language.

God obviously doesn't cut it, with Lions 

[Brownie]

I don't think they expected to be miraculously rescued from the lions though, they were scared stiff! As I would be, and am, just thinking about it!  I remember being taught that the Christians were still thrown to the lions even if they denied their faith.  There were some who escaped and went somewhere else, into a mountain region I think.  These people formed a community that had a specific name, I forget what.  Somebody will no doubt refresh my memory.

It's hard to believe that someone would seriously think a wild animal wouldn't attack.  He obviously didn't watch wildlife programmes.

[floo]

Whilst not a wild animal, I remember one crazy stunt I pulled with one of our German shepherd dogs when I was ten, not expecting god to come to my rescue though! Kim didn't have a good reputation, it is believed he killed off many of the neighbour cats, a lot of people were scared of him. Me being me, I wasn't frightened of the dog, and lay on the grass and told the dog to bite my neck! Probably because I wasn't scared of him, Kim just lay down beside me. Dad had to have him put down in the end because he was went for someone, and it was a miracle they weren't badly hurt.

[Bubbles]

Look at this

http://youtu.be/6UoJbb_tGHo

Amazing really.
( this guy sits and rides around on a Lion)

Had he claimed to be a prophet, some people would have gladly attributed it to God.

I don't think he is religious though.

[Gordon]

Perhaps he should have told the lions his name was Daniel.

[Bubbles]

Perhaps he should have told the lions his name was Daniel.

Perhaps Daniel had a natural ability with Lions like the Lion whisperer seems to have.

It would have seemed like magic in those days.

 

[floo]

The mistake is to show fear which wild animals will take as a red light to attack. I wonder if I would be any use in a lion cage? Maybe I won't try that one, with my arthritis I don't move as fast as heretofore!

[Brownie]

There are people who are friendly with lions and other big cats but they are usually well known to the lion and the cat used to being around humans from birth, such as in areas where there is conservation of the species.

I've been watching a series on ITV on Sunday nights called, ''The Story of Cats'', which is absolutely fascinating. It shows wild animals and domestic cats.  Last week there were species of big cats I had never seen or heard of as well as lions, cheetahs etc, and some of them were playing with humans.  Last night my cat was watching the programme with us and was a bit freaked out, especially with close ups of the cats and the noises they made.  That was quite funny.

Floo - don't!!!

[floo]

There are people who are friendly with lions and other big cats but they are usually well known to the lion and the cat used to being around humans from birth, such as in areas where there is conservation of the species.

I've been watching a series on ITV on Sunday nights called, ''The Story of Cats'', which is absolutely fascinating. It shows wild animals and domestic cats.  Last week there were species of big cats I had never seen or heard of as well as lions, cheetahs etc, and some of them were playing with humans.  Last night my cat was watching the programme with us and was a bit freaked out, especially with close ups of the cats and the noises they made.  That was quite funny.

Floo - don't!!!

Now that is a invitation to do so!

The kids were going to arrange for me to swim with sharks on my 60th birthday in 2010. But due to my ear problems it was deemed inadvisable.

[OH MY WORLD!]

We get both these critters wandering into the city every year.  You better show fear and back away if they have young. And my God wouldn't want me trying to show power over them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yti2UY5D0zw

[Hope]

His own words :-

"I do not know what came over me. I thought the Lord wanted to use me to show his power over animals.
‘Is it not we were given dominion over all creatures of the earth.’ "

Sounds quite all there to me, even though hopelessly brainwashed by the Bible.

Oddly enough, Len, the phrase ' ... given dominion over all creatures ... ' doesn't even remotely suggest that this gents' behaviour has anything to do with Biblical brainwashing - let alone being brainwashed by it (I believe that it is impossible to be brainwashed by an inanimate object).  As a result, I would have to suggest that the issue at hand is mental ill-health, rather than any Biblical influence.

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

Oddly enough, Len, the phrase ' ... given dominion over all creatures ... ' doesn't even remotely suggest that this gents' behaviour has anything to do with Biblical brainwashing - let alone being brainwashed by it (I believe that it is impossible to be brainwashed by an inanimate object).  As a result, I would have to suggest that the issue at hand is mental ill-health, rather than any Biblical influence.

Errrm a definition of dominion.

1.  Control or the exercise of control; sovereignty (free dictionary)

So you can see where he was coining from, even though you could read that passage to mean something else.

And  also I don't think it a question of either/or biblical influence / mental ill-health. It is quite possible to be a combination of both.

[Hope]

Errrm a definition of dominion.

1.  Control or the exercise of control; sovereignty (free dictionary)

So you can see where he was coining from, even though you could read that passage to mean something else.

And  also I don't think it a question of either/or biblical influence / mental ill-health. It is quite possible to be a combination of both.

Your definition is pretty good - its very similar to the Oxford Dictionary definition - "Sovereignty or control".  However, the word that is used in the Bible and translated 'dominion' in English, is more generally used in Jewish literature to refer to caring for and protection.

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

Your definition is pretty good - its very similar to the Oxford Dictionary definition - "Sovereignty or control".  However, the word that is used in the Bible and translated 'dominion' in English, is more generally used in Jewish literature to refer to caring for and protection.

So a crap translation then.

[Rhiannon]

Is it any less logical than cherry-picking the parts of the Bible that appeal to modern understanding and sensibilities? Either the entire Bible is 'God-breathed', or it's best regarded as one spiritual text among many.

[wigginhall]

Is it any less logical than cherry-picking the parts of the Bible that appeal to modern understanding and sensibilities? Either the entire Bible is 'God-breathed', or it's best regarded as one spiritual text among many.

Yes, I think that's one reason that the evangelicals hold on to the positions of literalism, and salvation, as they see it.   Once you give way on these, then you are heading towards a kind of relativism, e.g. that Christianity has some interesting ideas, but so does Sufism and Buddhism and atheism.   Horror, horror, horror.