Why is there no verifiable evidence?

[Hope]

I am not seeking spiritual answers from science either. Just a way of assessing claims of the divine.

I think that is called being open minded.

Well, if that's the case, there is always personal experience, Stephen. 

[Shaker]

Well, if that's the case, there is always personal experience, Stephen.

Even though (as Richard Feynman put it) ourselves are the easiest people to fool?

[Stranger]

Well, if that's the case, there is always personal experience, Stephen.

Which gives inconsistent answers (all the religions, cults, sects and denominations) and is therefore useless by itself.

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

Well, if that's the case, there is always personal experience, Stephen.

Personal experience of what?

I have experienced seeing huge lakes in the Sahara desert does it mean they were there?

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

That makes it sound as though you come to it prepacked not to.

Not just your claims of course. I apply to all claims regardless of their nature. Sounds a sensible way forwards to me.

[jeremyp]

The peculiar reaction to the Gospel by many people of love or hatred of it is as I have said evidence of the possibility of God since it could be monitored neurologically.

Do you realise that "possible" and "actually exists" are two different things?

The behaviours around the Gospel lift it above belief or otherwise of things like spaghetti monsters, purple unicorns, facts of science, etc.

So you are saying that because some people believe the gospel it must be true. Is that your best shot?

[OH MY WORLD!]

Another resurrected thread, great! "...verifiable evidence?" oh I love that.

"Whether we ever get to know them or not, there are very probably alien civilizations that are superhuman, to the point of being god-like in ways that exceed anything a theologian could possibly imagine."   The Dicky Dawkins 

I love that, cause he believes it with absolutely NO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE. That's right, not a shred of proof for the Dicky's SUPERHUMAN GOD-LIKE creatures.  Interesting that his superhuman god-like aliens haven't found us. That doesn't bode well for all those Earthlings searching for the god-like ones.

However, what would really rock me, is if Shaker and ippy found the superhuman god-like ones and they introduced those two atheists to one that is not just god-like but actually God. But no, that's crazy, cause there is no verifiable evidence for God and an atheist only allows a total leap of faith when it has to do with Klingons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IazjpiQEw9Y

[Shaker]

Another resurrected thread, great! "...verifiable evidence?" oh I love that.

"Whether we ever get to know them or not, there are very probably alien civilizations that are superhuman, to the point of being god-like in ways that exceed anything a theologian could possibly imagine."   The Dicky Dawkins 

I love that, cause he believes it with absolutely NO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE.

"Very probably" is hardly a belief, is it now?

Unless you're going to claim that you believe that there is "very probably" a god. Do you think there "definitely" is or "very probably" is?

[Stranger]

Another resurrected thread, great! "...verifiable evidence?" oh I love that.

"Whether we ever get to know them or not, there are very probably alien civilizations that are superhuman, to the point of being god-like in ways that exceed anything a theologian could possibly imagine."   The Dicky Dawkins 

I love that, cause he believes it with absolutely NO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE. That's right, not a shred of proof for the Dicky's SUPERHUMAN GOD-LIKE creatures.  Interesting that his superhuman god-like aliens haven't found us. That doesn't bode well for all those Earthlings searching for the god-like ones.

However, what would really rock me, is if Shaker and ippy found the superhuman god-like ones and they introduced those two atheists to one that is not just god-like but actually God. But no, that's crazy, cause there is no verifiable evidence for God and an atheist only allows a total leap of faith when it has to do with Klingons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IazjpiQEw9Y

So, do you have any way to assess the truth of claims about god or not?

Talking about what somebody else believes is totally irrelevant.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Even though (as Richard Feynman put it) ourselves are the easiest people to fool?

Have you got a personal example of that or is it as usual something that only happens to other people?

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

Have you got a personal example of that or is it as usual something that only happens to other people?

I have.

See previous message on lakes in the Sahara.

[Owlswing]

I have to agree with this analysis of your posts, Owl.

Coming from someone who has the greatest difficulty answering a single question put to them, this comment is rich!

I have always answered questions about my beliefs honestly and fully and have accepted with a certain amout of ewquanimity the abuse heaped upon gthem by you, JC, Sassy et al and at least I am honest in that I can state that my beliefs are just that - beliefs based upon faith - you and you blind co-Christians insist that your beliefs are fact!

This, in the final analysis, is either a major exercise in self-delusion or a major attempt to delude those who disagree with you!

Do you really think that I give tinkers damn what you think of my posts - think again! Mainly, of course, because you and your co-religionists named above each tell blatant lies to the one person that no-one should lie to - namely - yourselves.

Until you can admith that your beliefs are FAITH not FACT you are fuller of bull-shit than a farmyard manure pile!

The way that you are happy to slate my beliefs but bleat unfair criticism and treatment when it is done to you is blatant cowardice of the first water.

Do you go to church on a Sunday and confess your sins of lying and pride etc? Because if you do not you should!


(Edited for typos)

[ippy]

Another resurrected thread, great! "...verifiable evidence?" oh I love that.

"Whether we ever get to know them or not, there are very probably alien civilizations that are superhuman, to the point of being god-like in ways that exceed anything a theologian could possibly imagine."   The Dicky Dawkins 

I love that, cause he believes it with absolutely NO VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE. That's right, not a shred of proof for the Dicky's SUPERHUMAN GOD-LIKE creatures.  Interesting that his superhuman god-like aliens haven't found us. That doesn't bode well for all those Earthlings searching for the god-like ones.

However, what would really rock me, is if Shaker and ippy found the superhuman god-like ones and they introduced those two atheists to one that is not just god-like but actually God. But no, that's crazy, cause there is no verifiable evidence for God and an atheist only allows a total leap of faith when it has to do with Klingons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IazjpiQEw9Y

It's a bit like thinking every Canadian male works with lumber, log rolling, in saw mill, singing the lumberjack song, always grows a beard, always wears a check shirt; wait a minute, we've got verifiable evidence of all those things.

Any more dispariging the honour of the Klingons I'll be drawing my cerimonial dagger and if you really annoy me I'll carve a rude word on one of your trees, so there.

ippy

[Hope]

Personal experience of what?

I have experienced seeing huge lakes in the Sahara desert does it mean they were there?

You mean the ones that can be scientifically explained?  Mind you, I understand that such things can occur on very rare occasions (in the same way that dramatic rainstorms can occur very occasionally in such conditions)

[jeremyp]

You mean the ones that can be scientifically explained?  Mind you, I understand that such things can occur on very rare occasions (in the same way that dramatic rainstorms can occur very occasionally in such conditions)

There aren't any huge lakes in the Sahara. That's the point.

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

You mean the ones that can be scientifically explained?  Mind you, I understand that such things can occur on very rare occasions (in the same way that dramatic rainstorms can occur very occasionally in such conditions)

No, I mean I was in a Jeep driving across the Sahara and there was he most enormous lake to the East. I will swear on my  life I saw a lake.

So you agree there was a lake then?

[OH MY WORLD!]

Ippy,
You're a nice guy, but chatting with you is like being alone. Cartoons have always bored me.

I doubt cartoons can get an education but here goes.

http://www.albertapcf.org/about-prairies/the-value-of-prairie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ao-iNPPUc

[OH MY WORLD!]

Kind of,

"talking about what somebody else believes is totally irrelevant"

Well you just explained the irrelevance of your opinions. So you want to know what I believe cause? You don't want to talk about it? Too funny, now have a cookie.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

No, I mean I was in a Jeep driving across the Sahara and there was he most enormous lake to the East. I will swear on my  life I saw a lake.

So you agree there was a lake then?

Poor analogy since lakes exist. You are using an illusion of an existent to exemplify an illusion of a supposed non existent.

[Rhiannon]

Poor analogy since lakes exist. You are using an illusion of an existent to exemplify an illusion of a supposed non existent.

Why don't we face a face palm emoticon?

[Owlswing]

No, I mean I was in a Jeep driving across the Sahara and there was he most enormous lake to the East. I will swear on my  life I saw a lake.

So you agree there was a lake then?

A mirage perhaps? There are a lot of them in the Sahara

[Owlswing]

Why don't we face a face palm emoticon?

PLEEEEEAAAASSEEEE!

A Homer Simpson "D'oh!" perhaps?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Why don't we face a face palm emoticon?

You say that but there is a real category blunder being committed here.

[jeremyp]

Poor analogy since lakes exist.

Whereas gods don't exist. I see your point.

[Stranger]

So, do you have any way to assess the truth of claims about god or not?

Talking about what somebody else believes is totally irrelevant.

Kind of,

"talking about what somebody else believes is totally irrelevant"

Well you just explained the irrelevance of your opinions. So you want to know what I believe cause? You don't want to talk about it? Too funny, now have a cookie.

I'll take that as a 'no' to my question, then.