The 'Truth'

[Alan Burns]

Dear Alan,

I will ask, give the Auditors a break, what is God? answers on a postcard to every religion on this planet.

Gonnagle.

The simple truth is that God is the source of all that exists.

Our limited human brains are not capable of discerning the nature of God, so we have to rely on what God has revealed to us.

[Shaker]

The simple truth is that God is the source of all that exists.

So many words to express such little content.

Our limited human brains are not capable of discerning the nature of God, so we have to rely on what God has revealed to us.

Circular argument, Alan.

[Brownie]

Floo, there are people who simply aren't spiritual or at least not spiritual enough to notice.   There's nothing wrong with that, we're all different.
On a personal level for a change  , my mum was very unspiritual.  It didn't bother her in the least and she considered people who were, including me, rather airy fairy and fanciful.  Not in an unkind way.

[Stranger]

This is a very naive question.
This quandary also exists in science - what caused the Big Bang?, and what caused the cause of the Big Bang? ... etc

Yes - so inventing a god isn't an improvement.

There has to be some ultimate source of existence in order for anything to exist.  And this ultimate source of existence is God.

He asserted, without the hint of any evidence or a scintilla of rational argument...

[floo]

Floo, there are people who simply aren't spiritual or at least not spiritual enough to notice.   There's nothing wrong with that, we're all different.
On a personal level for a change  , my mum was very unspiritual.  It didn't bother her in the least and she considered people who were, including me, rather airy fairy and fanciful.  Not in an unkind way.

I am not bothered, I am comfortable as I am.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Brownie,

rather airy fairy and fanciful.

Yup! that's me, more airy than fairy but completely fanciful.

Gonnagle.

[Rhiannon]

I am not bothered, I am comfortable as I am.

To me, Floo, your art, poetry and the whisky you enjoy each evening (IIRC) are spiritually nourishing. You don't have to label them as such though.

And yes, I get the spirits/spirit thing in there. But it's true for me that life's small pleasures are spiritual. Including spirits that come in bottles from places in Scotland.

[floo]

To me, Floo, your art, poetry and the whisky you enjoy each evening (IIRC) are spiritually nourishing. You don't have to label them as such though.

And yes, I get the spirits/spirit thing in there. But it's true for me that life's small pleasures are spiritual. Including spirits that come in bottles from places in Scotland.

I don't see my art, writing and poetry as spiritual

I only drink a very small whisky three times a week now, after the statins did my liver no good at all! 

[Rhiannon]

And that's fine, Floo. And I've been lucky enough to see some of your art and think it's beautiful. And some would argue that makes it spiritual to them, even if that's not how you experience it.

[floo]

And that's fine, Floo. And I've been lucky enough to see some of your art and think it's beautiful. And some would argue that makes it spiritual to them, even if that's not how you experience it.

That is very kind of you.

[Brownie]

And that's fine, Floo. And I've been lucky enough to see some of your art and think it's beautiful. And some would argue that makes it spiritual to them, even if that's not how you experience it.

I agree with that, I once had a picture that floo created and whenever I looked at it I could almost lose myself in it.  It was lovely.

[floo]

You people are very kind. Actually Brownie I am looking at the picture I created for you right at this minute, it is on my bedroom windowsill.

[ekim]

Dear Floo,

My definition, something that takes you out of yourself in a good way,

Gonnagle.

In a sense, yes, it puts you into a good 'space'.  Some look for an external stimulus to realise this 'space' and which possibly lasts for as long as the stimulus and the memory of it.  The so called 'spiritual' path is perhaps to find that 'space' (?Heaven?) within and remain conscious of it without interruption.

[john]

Parroting SASS ALAN BURNS said.

"There has to be some ultimate source of existence in order for anything to exist.  And this ultimate source of existence is God."

Yep Alan I get it. I got it when Sass said it.

Now once again try to respond to a very simple question.... "If you cannot have ANYTHING unless God created it, That must apply to God also so you cannot have God unless something created him. You cannot posit one claim without acknowledging the other. SO WHO MADE GOD".

Its a simple question please try to do better than Sass and engage.






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[Brownie]

You people are very kind. Actually Brownie I am looking at the picture I created for you right at this minute, it is on my bedroom windowsill.

Well that's more than I can do floo.  I took mine up to Norfolk and a cup of tea was spilled on it!  Story of my life.

''You people are very kind.''  Not at all, it is The Truth .

[jjohnjil]

It's the part of me that needs to marvel at the clouds or the taste of olives. That loves playing music too loudly in my car. That feels the hairs on the back of my neck rise when reading certain poetry. It's the part of me that reaches to take my child's hand. 

Yours will be right for you.

This post made my day!  Especially the 'reaching to your child's hand'.  Thanks Rhiannon.

[Rhiannon]

This post made my day!  Especially the 'reaching to your child's hand'.  Thanks Rhiannon.

And thank you for saying so, jjohnjil. 

[Alan Burns]

SO WHO MADE GOD".

Your question makes no sense.
You could also ask "who made existence"

[Shaker]

Your question makes no sense.

In the field of cop-outs, Alan, that has to be the biggest one going.

You could also ask "who made existence"

You could if you're the sort of person who always leapfrogs over the possibility of a what rather than a who.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Your question makes no sense.
You could also ask "who made existence"

Yes God is the answer to why something rather than nothing.

[Rhiannon]

Yes God is the answer to why something rather than nothing.

Because?

[Hope]

Parroting SASS ALAN BURNS said.

"There has to be some ultimate source of existence in order for anything to exist.  And this ultimate source of existence is God."

Yep Alan I get it. I got it when Sass said it.

Now once again try to respond to a very simple question.... "If you cannot have ANYTHING unless God created it, That must apply to God also so you cannot have God unless something created him. You cannot posit one claim without acknowledging the other. SO WHO MADE GOD".

Why does it have to apply to God, john, if he is the ultimate source? You might as well ask where the mass that triggered the energy to initiate the Big Bang came from.  Perhaps you would be so good as to answer that 'simple' question.

By the way, I found your use of 'simple question' in your post quite amusing.  The nature of the origins of life and everything is anything BUT simple.  Ask your friendly physicists, astrophysicists, cosmologists, astroomers, ...., ...., .. .

[Alan Burns]

In the field of cop-outs, Alan, that has to be the biggest one going.You could if you're the sort of person who always leapfrogs over the possibility of a what rather than a who.

So in terms of material science can you explain the difference between a "what" and a "who"?

[john]

So nothing existed before God created everything.

IE nothing means NO THING not even God !!!!

So there wasn't even a God before there was anything !!!

You guys really do not think things through do you.

It's so much easier to make stuff up and stick your fingers in your ears.

[Alan Burns]

So there wasn't even a God before there was anything !!!

What do you think existed before anything existed?