The 'Truth'

[Sassy]

OK, let's start with one that Sass refused to answer.

Let the copy and paste begin...

Psalm 14:1

Do you agree with this statement?

I didn't refuse to answer, I was avoiding making you look more stupid than you already look.

Khatru.

Quote from: Sassy on April 11, 2016, 10:50:43 AM
So where you have the problem of knowing the truth and put it down to worldly scholarly matters like language.
The believer in Spirit and Truth does not have that problem.

Ah yes, that fits the third and ninth in my list of reasons that Christians regularly trot out to explain why they get it but I don't.

I don't understand because I need to know how to translate Hebrew and Greek
I don't understand because I need to view it from a child's perspective
I don't understand because I'm not a "true Christian"
I don't understand because I'm not a biblical scholar
I don't understand because I took the scripture out of context.
I don't understand because it means something other than what it actually says
I don't understand because it's an allegory
I don't understand because my mind is far too feeble to comprehend your god's truth
I don't understand because I've not been filled with the holy spirit
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 01:29:55 PM by Khatru »

Ippy and Owlswing both thought Khatrus post be a good post but I pointed out that fools seldom differ.

Then we get the reply from Khatru.

"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good".

Psalm 14:

Is that the kind of fool you're talking about?

My post was clear in intention that is had NOTHING to do with Psalm 14:1 and as such only a fool would have even suggested it.

The old saying is “Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.” Not psalm 14:1.

How stupid does Khatru look now?

[floo]

Sass, no one looks as stupid as you, apart from your clone TW, only you can't see it!

[~TW~]

No one said had to. I said why should I believe your God exists, and is not just a delusion.

I take it that you do believe a God exists.

Why do you believe that?

 I think I have answered that question more times then I can remember and I will be here all day telling you why,so we will pass on that with the comment try to keep up this has been answered many time.So we do not keep going back over old ground.

~TW~

[~TW~]

OK, let's start with one that Sass refused to answer.

Let the copy and paste begin...

Psalm 14:1

Do you agree with this statement?

 Taking in the whole context of the psalm where God makes a point,or you could say a point is made for God,if God is God then those who oppose him are fools big time.  so yes.
~TW~

[BeRational]

I think I have answered that question more times then I can remember and I will be here all day telling you why,so we will pass on that with the comment try to keep up this has been answered many time.So we do not keep going back over old ground.

~TW~

This is the usual cop out for those that cannot answer.

The truth is that so far no one anywhere ever, has given a good logical reason to believe in a god. All attempts by everyone have failed, and you are no exception.

You believe for totally illogical reasons. Now that is the truth!

[~TW~]

This is the usual cop out for those that cannot answer.

The truth is that so far no one anywhere ever, has given a good logical reason to believe in a god. All attempts by everyone have failed, and you are no exception.

You believe for totally illogical reasons. Now that is the truth!

Dont talk shit.
~TW~

[~TW~]

What planet is bR on that is the question why does our history say today br that it is the year 2016.
~TW~

[Shaker]

What planet is bR on that is the question why does our history say today br that it is the year 2016.
~TW~

It's 5776 in the Jewish calendar

[~TW~]

It's 5776 in the Jewish calendar

Is it so I score again under 6000 well done.
~TW~

[Shaker]

Score? Only in the stupidity and borderline illiteracy stakes.

[~TW~]

Score? Only in the stupidity and borderline illiteracy stakes.

Yes but I am fine because pratts like you keep posting evidence that supports me. What was it 5776 magic
~TW~

[BeRational]

Dont talk shit.
~TW~

You make my point for me.

Instead of a reasoned and logical rebuttal, all you can do is that.

Your beliefs are delusional, and I suspect you know that, and that's why you never offer any reasoned comment, just insults.

[bluehillside Retd.]

BR,

I think I have answered that question more times then I can remember and I will be here all day telling you why,so we will pass on that with the comment try to keep up this has been answered many time.So we do not keep going back over old ground.

So far as anyone can tell the TW/Sassy amalgam believe in their god because the religious book with which they happen to be most familiar tells them to. He/she/they show no inclination to break out of the circular reasoning of "God is true because a book says so; the book is true because God made it so" so round and round they go. Be nice if he/she/they could ever attempt and actual argument - i.e., something that isn't logically hopeless - to make their case but after all this time I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

[Shaker]

Yes but I am fine because pratts like you keep posting evidence that supports me. What was it 5776 magic
~TW~

That's the Jewish calendar - I never knew you were Jewish. Your post #281 implied that there's something notable about it being the year 2016 according to Bede's dating, whereas other religions have their own calendars giving different dates. Which one is correct?

Prat has only one t, incidentally. I suppose you have to be a bit of a prat not to know that.

[~TW~]

As br and shaker are suffering from foot in mouth I will now log out my message to you both is you deceive yourself. 5776 brilliant 
~TW~

[Shaker]

Log out?

Are you sure you know how to do it on your own?

[Stranger]

As br and shaker are suffering from foot in mouth I will now log out my message to you both...

Clearly you know that you have no arguments, that's why all you do is post childish insults and then run away...

[BeRational]

As br and shaker are suffering from foot in mouth I will now log out my message to you both is you deceive yourself. 5776 brilliant 
~TW~

Do you mean run away because the questions make you feel uneasy?

[Rhiannon]

BR,

So far as anyone can tell the TW/Sassy amalgam believe in their god because the religious book with which they happen to be most familiar tells them to. He/she/they show no inclination to break out of the circular reasoning of "God is true because a book says so; the book is true because God made it so" so round and round they go. Be nice if he/she/they could ever attempt and actual argument - i.e., something that isn't logically hopeless - to make their case but after all this time I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

A lot of what TW and Sass believe isn't especially Biblical, or if it is it's an uncommon interpretation of it. There's more to it than simply believing in x and y - it's a scaffolding on which their lives have been built. I'm not even sure where it comes from - it's not identifiable with any mainstream Christianity that I grew up around.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Rhi,

A lot of what TW and Sass believe isn't especially Biblical, or if it is it's an uncommon interpretation of it. There's more to it than simply believing in x and y - it's a scaffolding on which their lives have been built. I'm not even sure where it comes from - it's not identifiable with any mainstream Christianity that I grew up around.

That sounds about right to me - having built their lives on it though, it seems they have no choice but to respond like four-year-olds with insult and abuse when confronted with arguments they can't address. I wonder too whether - deep, deep down - there's a tiny voice somewhere that says, "what if this entire belief system is wrong?" that they suppress immediately it pops up, but that's there nonetheless so their behaviour betrays the nagging suspicion that they've bet the farm on the wrong horse.

Despite their disgraceful behaviour here, I have to admit to a sneaking sympathy/pity for them if that is the case. Realising that everything you've based your beliefs on is a crock must be an agonising process I'd have thought.

[ekim]

Rhi,

That sounds about right to me - having built their lives on it though, it seems they have no choice but to respond like four-year-olds with insult and abuse when confronted with arguments they can't address. I wonder too whether - deep, deep down - there's a tiny voice somewhere that says, "what if this entire belief system is wrong?" that they suppress immediately it pops up, but that's there nonetheless so their behaviour betrays the nagging suspicion that they've bet the farm on the wrong horse.

Despite their disgraceful behaviour here, I have to admit to a sneaking sympathy/pity for them if that is the case. Realising that everything you've based your beliefs on is a crock must be an agonising process I'd have thought.

I doubt it.  Any such 'tiny voices' would be seen as Satan testing their faith and you would be seen as one of Satan's little helpers.  It's all covered in the manual.

[Shaker]

I doubt it.  Any such 'tiny voices' would be seen as Satan testing their faith and you would be seen as one of Satan's little helpers.  It's all covered in the manual.

Straight from the Alan Burns playbook, of course.

[bluehillside Retd.]

ekim,

I doubt it.  Any such 'tiny voices' would be seen as Satan testing their faith and you would be seen as one of Satan's little helpers.  It's all covered in the manual.

That's a thought - any glimmer of reason or sense that's allowed to intrude must be the devil tempting them from the true belief, so all the more reason to extinguish it sharpish and thereby reinforce the faith itself. Yikes!

[Khatru]

I didn't refuse to answer, I was avoiding making you look more stupid than you already look.

Ah yes, that fits the third and ninth in my list of reasons that Christians regularly trot out to explain why they get it but I don't.

I don't understand because I need to know how to translate Hebrew and Greek
I don't understand because I need to view it from a child's perspective
I don't understand because I'm not a "true Christian"
I don't understand because I'm not a biblical scholar
I don't understand because I took the scripture out of context.
I don't understand because it means something other than what it actually says
I don't understand because it's an allegory
I don't understand because my mind is far too feeble to comprehend your god's truth
I don't understand because I've not been filled with the holy spirit
« Last Edit: April 12, 2016, 01:29:55 PM by Khatru »

Ippy and Owlswing both thought Khatrus post be a good post but I pointed out that fools seldom differ.

Then we get the reply from Khatru.
My post was clear in intention that is had NOTHING to do with Psalm 14:1 and as such only a fool would have even suggested it.

The old saying is “Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ.” Not psalm 14:1.

How stupid does Khatru look now?

You were given various opportunities to answer the question and still your faith failed you.

You're all over the place, Sass.

All I asked was whether you agreed with the scripture.

A simple yes/no answer will suffice.

Too late now - you had your chances and you blew them.

[ekim]

ekim,

That's a thought - any glimmer of reason or sense that's allowed to intrude must be the devil tempting them from the true belief, so all the more reason to extinguish it sharpish and thereby reinforce the faith itself. Yikes!

Resistance is futile.  You WILL be assimilated.