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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #300 on: May 11, 2016, 10:58:04 AM »
Taking in the whole context of the psalm where God makes a point,or you could say a point is made for God,if God is God then those who oppose him are fools big time.  :) so yes.
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I suppose the bile and invective in this scripture  is hardly surprising considering its author thought nothing about sacrificing humans to appease the bible god.

Anyway, does it make you feel good lumping the billions of people in the world who do not believe in your choice of deity into one category as corrupt, abominable and doing no good?

Care to share your proof that every single unbeliever is a corrupt, abominable fool who never does any good at all?

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« Reply #301 on: May 11, 2016, 12:52:33 PM »
I suppose the bile and invective in this scripture  is hardly surprising considering its author thought nothing about sacrificing humans to appease the bible god.

Anyway, does it make you feel good lumping the billions of people in the world who do not believe in your choice of deity into one category as corrupt, abominable and doing no good?

Care to share your proof that every single unbeliever is a corrupt, abominable fool who never does any good at all?

 Well having just witnessed shaker and br shoot each other in the head.You seem to want to do the same The writer says the fool, he has an opinion he is entitled to his opinion the rest of your post is just an add on where you go on a rant as your mates would say, and introduce your thoughts and your thoughts only.So next question if you have one.

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« Reply #302 on: May 11, 2016, 01:09:32 PM »
Well having just witnessed shaker and br shoot each other in the head.You seem to want to do the same The writer says the fool, he has an opinion he is entitled to his opinion the rest of your post is just an add on where you go on a rant as your mates would say, and introduce your thoughts and your thoughts only.So next question if you have one.

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You haven't answered the first question about why you believe there is a god.

Can you do that?
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« Reply #303 on: May 11, 2016, 01:16:26 PM »
You haven't answered the first question about why you believe there is a god.

Can you do that?

 I did answer but you are a little slow,some people would say thick,I would say slow.  :)And as Sass says you lack understanding.Not much I can do for you it seems hell awaits.
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« Reply #304 on: May 11, 2016, 01:17:54 PM »
Well having just witnessed shaker and br shoot each other in the head.You seem to want to do the same The writer says the fool, he has an opinion he is entitled to his opinion the rest of your post is just an add on where you go on a rant as your mates would say, and introduce your thoughts and your thoughts only.So next question if you have one.

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Except that I wasn't asking the writer for his opinion.

I wanted yours.

Which was why I asked you to provide the evidence to back up your assertion that the scripture is true.

You failed to do so.

No surprise that Sass refused to answer it and you can probably see yourself why she chose to give the question a body swerve.   
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« Reply #305 on: May 11, 2016, 01:19:37 PM »
I did answer but you are a little slow,some people would say thick,I would say slow.  :)And as Sass says you lack understanding.Not much I can do for you it seems hell awaits.
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You have not answered, that is a lie.

Simply post why you believe a god or gods exist. Do not post that you have answered somewhere else at some other time. That is evasion.
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« Reply #306 on: May 11, 2016, 01:20:45 PM »
Except that I wasn't asking the writer for his opinion.

I wanted yours.

Which was why I asked you to provide the evidence to back up your assertion that the scripture is true.

You failed to do so.

No surprise that Sass refused to answer it and you can probably see yourself why she chose to give the question a body swerve.

I gave you mine yes I agree.What is wrong with you people cant you read.
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« Reply #307 on: May 11, 2016, 01:23:59 PM »
I gave you mine yes I agree.What is wrong with you people cant you read.
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Stop saying you HAVE done it, and DO IT.

Why do you believe a god or gods exist?
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« Reply #308 on: May 11, 2016, 01:25:35 PM »
You have not answered, that is a lie.

Simply post why you believe a god or gods exist. Do not post that you have answered somewhere else at some other time. That is evasion.

Well read this why i believe in God                             http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

 And when you have read it sod off and annoy someone else with your crap.

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« Reply #309 on: May 11, 2016, 01:31:44 PM »
Well read this why i believe in God                             http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

 And when you have read it sod off and annoy someone else with your crap.

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This is a document by someone else and is not why YOU believe in a god.

Took a quick look and it mentions Irreducible Complexity, which we know is creationist nonsense.

THERE IS NO IRREDUCIBLE COMPLEXITY. It has NEVER been found.

If this is why you believe in a god, you should stop believing in 5,4,3,2,1 NOW.
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« Reply #310 on: May 11, 2016, 01:37:51 PM »
Well read this why i believe in God                             http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

 And when you have read it sod off and annoy someone else with your crap.

Why are you too afraid to make your own argument?

"Irreducible complexity" - YAWN!

Quite apart from this having been dealt with many times before, you really need to get to get it into your head that attempting to poke holes in the science of evolution is not an argument for the existence of your god.

It simply doesn't matter how many unknowns there are in science - it doesn't make your magic sky fairy any more believable.
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« Reply #311 on: May 11, 2016, 01:38:37 PM »
Well read this why i believe in God                             http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840
             

More likely the otherway round - you accept the contents of that article because you believe in God.

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« Reply #312 on: May 11, 2016, 01:44:07 PM »
A lot of what TW and Sass believe isn't especially Biblical, or if it is it's an uncommon interpretation of it. There's more to it than simply believing in x and y - it's a scaffolding on which their lives have been built. I'm not even sure where it comes from - it's not identifiable with any mainstream Christianity that I grew up around.

Proof... oh you don't have any do you? It is all made up trying to hit out at people who have forgotten more about Christianity than you ever knew.

What I believe in is exactly what Christ believed in. Seems you dig yourself in deeper each day.
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« Reply #313 on: May 11, 2016, 01:47:41 PM »
Proof... oh you don't have any do you? It is all made up trying to hit out at people who have forgotten more about Christianity than you ever knew.

What I believe in is exactly what Christ believed in. Seems you dig yourself in deeper each day.

How do you know what Jesus believed?

As far as I am aware, he never wrote anything down. It was ll written by others, possibly making him say what they wanted him to have said. Some that wrote about him, never even met him!
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« Reply #314 on: May 11, 2016, 01:50:14 PM »
Well read this why i believe in God                             http://www.ideacenter.org/contentmgr/showdetails.php/id/840

 And when you have read it sod off and annoy someone else with your crap.

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I see you are not quite intelligent enough to understand the document you point to.

The point has been made though. Suppose that evolution by natural selection was wrong.

How does this get to a god.

All this gets you is that now we do not understand something.

When you are smart enough to understand this, then you can talk to the grown ups.
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« Reply #315 on: May 11, 2016, 01:52:19 PM »
Stop saying you HAVE done it, and DO IT.

Why do you believe a god or gods exist?

Could it be, because God does exist.

Why do human beings exist?

You don't know the answer to that one either.
But nonetheless we do exist.
Hence the reason God exists... he made us...
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« Reply #316 on: May 11, 2016, 01:57:40 PM »
Could it be, because God does exist.

Why do human beings exist?

You don't know the answer to that one either.
But nonetheless we do exist.
Hence the reason God exists... he made us...

You need to demonstrate that a god exists.
You should not believe stuff because it MIGHT be true.
ANYTHING MIGHT be true.

Not knowing something does not mean MAKE UP AND ANSWER. It simply means you do not know.

Why are you so afraid of not knowing?
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« Reply #317 on: May 11, 2016, 02:08:53 PM »
BR et al,

You can ask as much as you like, but the answer is always the same: they believe in "God" because a book they choose to believe is correct tells them to. That's it: there's no argument, no evidence, no anything beyond that circular reasoning. The closest they will ever get to breaking the circle is to look for imaginary holes in the science so as to jemmy their god into them, but that's it.

Really, that's it.
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« Reply #318 on: May 11, 2016, 02:09:16 PM »
I see you are not quite intelligent enough to understand the document you point to.

The point has been made though. Suppose that evolution by natural selection was wrong.

How does this get to a god.

All this gets you is that now we do not understand something.

When you are smart enough to understand this, then you can talk to the grown ups.

 Grown up you  ;D pain in the rear end you dont even understand 7776  :D Why dont you demonstrate 7776 is wrong.
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« Reply #319 on: May 11, 2016, 02:10:35 PM »
what a bunch of dead beats this excuses are.
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« Reply #320 on: May 11, 2016, 02:11:23 PM »
Grown up you  ;D pain in the rear end you dont even understand 7776  :D Why dont you demonstrate 7776 is wrong.
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Do you at least admit that you have no logical sound reasoning underpinning your belief in a god?

If so then there is nothing to discuss.

BUT, if you think you have a logical sound reason, then you need to put up or shut up.
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« Reply #321 on: May 11, 2016, 02:12:22 PM »
what a bunch of dead beats this excuses are.

Running away again?

Why can't you provide even a hint of a rational argument for your god?
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« Reply #322 on: May 11, 2016, 02:16:50 PM »
what a bunch of dead beats this excuses are.
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Is English your second language?

Your statement above does not make sense.
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« Reply #323 on: May 11, 2016, 02:23:17 PM »
Is English your second language?

Your statement above does not make sense.
It's ~Twenglish. English, but with an unhealthy addition of ~Twatish!
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« Reply #324 on: May 11, 2016, 02:34:19 PM »
Could it be, because God does exist.

Why do human beings exist?

You don't know the answer to that one either.
But nonetheless we do exist.
Hence the reason God exists... he made us...

Yet another daft assertion on the part of Sass!