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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #425 on: May 12, 2016, 07:58:22 PM »
So your [sic] stuffed as well .We have all in all a right shower of s--- on here.

What exactly do you think you're gaining by all this silly dishonesty, stupidity, bluster and insult?
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #426 on: May 12, 2016, 08:01:53 PM »
So Some kind of stranger how about you answering a question for a change--- Try this. you go into a room on your own pray silently and request the lottery numbers you hear a voice which gives you six numbers which result in the lottery being won.Give us your thoughts.
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Your question seems fallacious if it is the case, and bearing in mind what you've frequently said here, that the 'voice' you mention is something you'd claim was divine. If so then you are begging the question, in that your premise (the voice) assumes your conclusion (which is that the voice is divine/from God). Of course you might be thinking of some other source of this voice than your choice of God, which doesn't really help since you'd still be begging the question.

Therefore, your question is fallacious nonsense, and as such can be dismissed as illogical.
 

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« Reply #427 on: May 12, 2016, 08:09:08 PM »
And is that it  :)  Was that a desperate attempt at a news flash.
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No.

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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #428 on: May 12, 2016, 08:34:46 PM »
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #429 on: May 12, 2016, 08:52:31 PM »
This is the first time I have posted to you so I reject that and note that you are  here just  like the rest not  to answer questions but to duck and dive and waste time.So we can put you in the dead loss book as well.
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 I very clearly answered your questions (request for my thoughts). It is obvious to anyone reading this thread that I did.

You, however, have clearly not responded to the points/questions I, or Shaker, have made.

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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #430 on: May 12, 2016, 11:27:22 PM »
I very clearly answered your questions (request for my thoughts). It is obvious to anyone reading this thread that I did.

You, however, have clearly not responded to the points/questions I, or Shaker, have made.
You ignored it completely so I see you as the same as the others on here Jokers, I have been waiting all day for khatru to ask a question he said he had.

 All jokers,all a complete waste of space with serious reading difficulty's
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #431 on: May 12, 2016, 11:31:59 PM »
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« Reply #432 on: May 12, 2016, 11:34:28 PM »
I dunno, the world also has Sass in it.

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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #433 on: May 13, 2016, 06:48:04 AM »
Sass, by your logic Bran the Blessed is real and his head is buried at Tower Hill. Nobody has proven otherwise.

As you can see my last post and what was written:-
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Seems they are willing to cling to any argument really fooling themselves that they actually have something to argue with.
If you do as God and Christ tells you, you will know if exists. Until you do you are not in a position to argue or call yourselves open minded... Because those who seek truth act on information provided. Till every atheist has acted on the words of God and Christ then they are no truth seekers and are not being honest when it comes to wanting to know if there is a God.

So when you have done as God tells you, let us know. TILL YOU DO, YOU CANNOT ARGUE AGAINST HIS EXISTENCE.

Was HE  Bran the Blessed mentioned in the Bible?  Would doing as Christ said, prove Christ right about God or Bran?
Your reply was a pathetic attempt and not even a worthy or logical point to make. Since it had absolutely NOTHING to do with God, Christ or the Bible and Christianity from them.

No wonder you lost your faith I bet it was hard to keep hold of the one piece of truth with all the rubbish you have in your head about the things you know to be false.
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« Reply #434 on: May 13, 2016, 06:49:39 AM »
Either you think logic is valid - in which case your argument is illogical (argument from ignorance), or you don't think logic is valid and your accusation that others are being illogical is absurd.

Please try to think.

All words but absolutely nothing by means to disprove what I stated. Logic seems to appear to be a foreign subject to you.

If you have NEVER done as Christ tells you then you simply cannot dismiss what he says, full stop.

And you think you have an argument is what is totally illogical.
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« Reply #435 on: May 13, 2016, 06:54:17 AM »
Does Hope know that you're driving the negative proof fallacy today?
How strange, then, that here you are using it.

Do you know they don't exist that it is manmade and Christ and obeying him to find if true has NOTHING to do with negative proof fallacy. IN FACT it shows positive proof you are just in denial clutching at any straw but unable to prove your straw is correct. Until you do as Christ tells you then you don't and cannot use any excuse such a negative proof fallacy.

Because Christ and his words are the stumbling block you cannot go through it, around it, or over it.
If you don't do it, then you really have no arguments or proof of any type against it.

So stop spewing out more stupid remarks and false straw men arguments and show some proof that Christ lied.
Be here forever won't you. Because you have to prove what he said false. But you can't can you.
You never have tried to see if what he said true because you in truth you don't want to know the truth.
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« Reply #436 on: May 13, 2016, 07:01:10 AM »
A bunch of Atheists and agnostics who haven't a clue how to argue logically or independently against the truth of Jesus Words.
Either bring evidence that what Christ has said is false or keep showing everyone how you have no logical or known way to prove Christ false.

Truth is if you obey Christ you can find out if his words are true. If he really is the Son of God.
In truth, you don't want to know. Which is totally different for not being able to believe.
If it was a matter you couldn't believe but would believe if true, then you would have done as Christ said.
Instead, you refute without proof that Christ is the Son of God and do absolutely nothing to prove it.

Ah well, if you are not willing to do as he tells you to know the truth, then you have no arguments against his words being the truth. Fickle and cowards who simply don't want to know the truth. Just spout stupid arguments which in the light of the words of God, cannot stand. You either want to know the truth or you don't. It is clear you do not want to know the truth and that is a different matter altogether.

So you choose ignorance and use ignorant excuses which in the light of Christ himself are absolutely not acceptable as any type of argument against him.
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #437 on: May 13, 2016, 07:21:43 AM »
Sass, show us that Jesus really said what he is supposed to have said first. Whether it is 'true' or not comes later.

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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #438 on: May 13, 2016, 07:33:17 AM »
All words but absolutely nothing by means to disprove what I stated. Logic seems to appear to be a foreign subject to you.

You cannot deny basic logical fallacies and then tell people they are being illogical. That is blatant hypocrisy (which makes your god very cross, so I understand).

I'll try once more: you demanded that I "PROVE GOD DOES NOT EXIST" - this is a logical fallacy. It is easy to see that it is a fallacy by comparison; I can claim that the universe was sneezed out of the nose of the Great Green Arkleseizure and we should all live in fear of the Coming of the Great White Handkerchief.

Now: PROVE THE GREAT GREEN ARKLESEIZURE DOES NOT EXIST!
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #439 on: May 13, 2016, 07:33:59 AM »
Sass, show us that Jesus really said what he is supposed to have said first. Whether it is 'true' or not comes later.
You are no better then these other twirps on here dodgers total dodgers incapable of discussion.
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #440 on: May 13, 2016, 07:41:08 AM »
You ignored it completely so I see you as the same as the others on here Jokers, I have been waiting all day for khatru to ask a question he said he had.

 All jokers,all a complete waste of space with serious reading difficulty's
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I did - in #426 - when I pointed out your question seems fallacious, and as such it can simply be dismissed as being spurious.

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« Reply #441 on: May 13, 2016, 07:42:24 AM »
You ignored it completely so I see you as the same as the others on here Jokers, I have been waiting all day for khatru to ask a question he said he had.

 All jokers,all a complete waste of space with serious reading difficulty's
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I clearly didn't ignore it.

You clearly didn't like the answers I gave.

Why don't you tell us what your thoughts are on the question you asked.

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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #442 on: May 13, 2016, 07:53:54 AM »
You ignored it completely so I see you as the same as the others on here Jokers, I have been waiting all day for khatru to ask a question he said he had.

 All jokers,all a complete waste of space with serious reading difficulty's

It is blatantly untrue that people have ignored your question. You told a rather fanciful little story and then said "give us your thoughts". Therefore any thoughts that result from your story are a valid answer.

Perhaps it isn't other people's "reading difficulty's [sic]" that are the problem but your, rather obvious, writing difficulties. Maybe you think you asked a different question from the one that you actually typed?
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #443 on: May 13, 2016, 08:21:06 AM »
All words but absolutely nothing by means to disprove what I stated. Logic seems to appear to be a foreign subject to you.
As English is to you. Rational thought likewise.
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #444 on: May 13, 2016, 09:01:24 AM »
You are no better then these other twirps on here dodgers total dodgers incapable of discussion.
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #445 on: May 13, 2016, 09:04:04 AM »
Any chance you could give us your thoughts on the question you asked me?

Yes they were brilliant questions which stitched you up like a kipper.
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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #446 on: May 13, 2016, 09:07:53 AM »
Yes they were brilliant questions which stitched you up like a kipper.
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I was referring to your story about the lottery numbers.

What are your thoughts on it?

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« Reply #447 on: May 13, 2016, 09:10:17 AM »
Yes they were brilliant questions which stitched you up like a kipper.

Defend them then, coward.
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« Reply #448 on: May 13, 2016, 09:30:45 AM »
A lot of people come onto this forum as 'guests', possibly interested in seeing if religion has anything to offer them.  One can only guess how they react towards the posts of TW and Sass who claim to be Christians, but spend their posting time dissing others. I know for a fact that one member, who joined for a short time, was completely disgusted by the sort of behaviour displayed by those two, and that of several other Christian posters who no longer favour us with their presence. Two other people of my acquaintance, didn't even bother to join the forum having viewed it as guests!

Just supposing a god does exist and is half way decent, I doubt it approves of its followers dragging the faith through the mire and bringing it into disrepute. "Depart from me for I never knew you", might be a phrase directed at them one day.

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Re: The 'Truth'
« Reply #449 on: May 13, 2016, 09:45:08 AM »
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you go into a room on your own pray silently and request the lottery numbers you hear a voice which gives you six numbers which result in the lottery being won.Give us your thoughts.
Then he would be praying to mammon rather than God according to Jesus....
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon."