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Keith Maitland

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The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« on: March 23, 2016, 08:52:38 AM »
I have consolidated eight adjectives, all beginning with the letter D, that I feel aptly describes the major points brought up by the various philosophical pessimists. They are listed in a kind of "chronological" order of manifestation in some sense, although they are not “required” to appear in these orders.

1.) Desire can be characterized by a feeling of incompleteness. When we desire something, we feel as though we are lacking something important in our lives. The feeling of dissatisfaction, the striving to “complete” the ego or fulfill a need, is what constitutes Schopenhauer’s conception of the Will, or the general idea of the Buddhist tanha. Accordingly, both philosophies recommended the ceasing of unnecessary desire, for to live a life of desire is to live a life enslaved by need.

2.) Decay is the inevitable destruction of things that we hold dear. The attachment we feel for these things “sets us up”, so to speak, for the feeling of loss. Time is forever thrusting things forward, and entropy is the result. This is why we have to continue to eat, breathe, sleep, fill up our automobile’s gas tank, pay for electricity, etc. The world does not care about your attachments to things; this is also why it is so difficult to let go of people who have died, or deal with the inevitable accidents that throw someone’s life into turmoil. Everything is impermanent and in motion.

3.) Discomfort is fairly straight forward. The consequences of desire and decay are a type of discomfort, but in addition to these are the various feelings of pain, as well as psychological discomfort (i.e. a “psychache”). From a pin prick to a broken femur, from embarrassment to a suicide attempt, pain is a univocal part of our existence. To rise above pain in some instances can lead to a meaningful experience. To succumb to pain and thereby suffer leads to a meaningless existence.

4.) Disgust is, I take it, to be the next emotional step once one has come to terms with the former three aspects of existence. Existence is not perfect, it is not a dream-world. With disgust comes compassion, though, which is something to be cultivated.

5.) Disillusionment is tied in with disgust; when one has “lifted the curtain” and seen life in all its glory and horror, the fantasies of life held before, the pretty little narrative that drives us all, begin to crumble. A feeling of dissatisfaction with what is seen becomes apparent. Man’s very existence becomes suspect; suicide becomes an option. The existentialists of the twentieth century seemed to focus primarily on finding meaning after the prior meanings had been lost. What matters here, though, is that the disillusionment is felt to be permanent.

6.) Despair can follow disillusionment. Perhaps no meaning is to be found, and life is absurd and potentially even malignant at times. With the loss of hope comes the experience of despair, a complete loss of any anchors, structure, stability or control.

7)  Disinterest follows disillusionment, but is also its own slice of human existence. Disinterest refers to a feeling of apathy, or boredom, to life. Weltschmerz, or world-weariness, is a classic romantic adjective used to describe such a feeling. One could also say that our desires lead to a impermanent feeling of satisfaction, which inevitably decays into a general disinterest, or boredom with what we have, which leads back to another instance of desire to keep ourselves distracted and entertained.

8.) Death is the ultimate property of being alive. It is what motivates the creation of culture, aesthetics, and other forms of distraction. Death is an inevitable event for all living creatures. To avoid it is to live invalidly and to live in fear, to accept it is to nevertheless undergo the experience.

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2016, 09:37:08 AM »
Well there's a word beginning with d that I'm tempted to use now, but I won't.

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2016, 09:42:57 AM »
Apart from decay and death the other six words are emotional states which could be seen to be associated with desire.  Discomfort is an agitation resulting from the desire to remain comfortable.  Disgust is the desire to put distance between yourself and what you find repulsive.  Disillusionment is the threat to the desire to hold on to an illusion.  Despair is a break in the desire to hold on to hope.  Disinterest is the loss of desire to maintain a particular interest.  Decay and death are names given to types of change and any pessimism resulting from this could be seen as resulting from a desire to cling on to the status quo.

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2016, 09:51:39 AM »
At least a few of these - 2, 4, 7 and 8 - remind me of Sartre's concept of la nausée, or nausea as it's usually translated.
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Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2016, 09:54:54 AM »
Well there's a word beginning with d that I'm tempted to use now, but I won't.
-ismal? -epressing?
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2016, 10:08:10 AM »
Nothing on the 'O' side of the coin then, Keith?

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2016, 10:12:56 AM »
Nothing on the 'O' side of the coin then, Keith?
Keith I think would agree that philosophically speaking he's a pessimist, a la Rust Cohle from season one of True Detective*: https://goo.gl/PtyC9u

* Possibly the greatest thing ever to happen to television, AFAIC.
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Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2016, 12:59:15 PM »
The only thing that stops me from committing suicide after reading Keith's posts is that I feel so miserable that I can't even see the point in that :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2016, 02:27:48 PM »
It is a bit like that  ;)

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2016, 02:31:28 PM »
All together now  8)


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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2016, 02:45:19 PM »
I would never criticize anyone for being depressed, as we have all been there.  But you can't convert it into an objective state of affairs, that is going too far.   

I was just watching the Cambridge boat crew practising on the Thames, and a fine sight it was.   They look very proficient, and they were followed by several launches, with people filming the crew, and doing whatever people do in launches.  It made me feel full of cheer, so to all the Ds, I suggest some Ls, life being lived in all its languorous loveliness.
They were the footprints of a gigantic hound!

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2016, 04:48:11 PM »
I would never criticize anyone for being depressed, as we have all been there.  But you can't convert it into an objective state of affairs, that is going too far.   
I feel a side discussion about depressive realism coming on ... ;)
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Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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Re: The Eight D's of Philosophical Pessimism
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2016, 05:01:09 PM »
I would never criticize anyone for being depressed, as we have all been there.  But you can't convert it into an objective state of affairs, that is going too far.   

I was just watching the Cambridge boat crew practising on the Thames, and a fine sight it was.   They look very proficient, and they were followed by several launches, with people filming the crew, and doing whatever people do in launches.  It made me feel full of cheer, so to all the Ds, I suggest some Ls, life being lived in all its languorous loveliness.

It wont last.

ippy