Are sins like homosexuality still condemned in the New Covenant of Christ?

[Owlswing]

As a post script to the above, I would add that I have noticed a change in L-J which I see as being thanks to his friends on this forum. Although he is continuing to practice homosexuality I would say that he is a friendly, intelligent person, so I mean no disrespect to him.

Anticipating a reaction from people to my comment about homosexuals being mentally ill, this was the diagnosis in medical textbook until it was decided that they were not harmful. My comment is a result of my experience with the person I described above.

You, Spud, and Sassy and Hope et al, and your poisonous brand of Christianity are far more dangerous than the entire world population of homosexuals!

[Gonnagle]

Dear Spud,

How are you old son, still taking the tablets, good, anyway, this little bit in your post has left me bewildered,

We will see eventually whether or not the West's acceptance of homosexuality makes it stronger. It has been interesting to see how the USA and NATO were powerless to do anything about Russia's recent involvement in Syria.

I don't follow your posts as fervently as others and maybe you have already explained it.

My thanks in advance,

Gonnagle.

[kiwimac]

[/size] Are sins like homosexuality still condemned in the New Covenant of Christ?

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Only by some.

[floo]

As a post script to the above, I would add that I have noticed a change in L-J which I see as being thanks to his friends on this forum. Although he is continuing to practice homosexuality I would say that he is a friendly, intelligent person, so I mean no disrespect to him.

Anticipating a reaction from people to my comment about homosexuals being mentally ill, this was the diagnosis in medical textbook until it was decided that they were not harmful. My comment is a result of my experience with the person I described above.

Homosexuals are no more mentally ill than heterosexuals.

[Sassy]

You, Spud, and Sassy and Hope et al, and your poisonous brand of Christianity are far more dangerous than the entire world population of homosexuals!

Here we go, false accusations which cannot be substantiated by Owlswing in any form.

Brand of Christianity... Love your neighbour as you love yourself and love God. Nothing dangerous about it.
The truth is that you are showing and establishing prejudicial bias and bigotry against believers without evidence.
So prove the statement or apologise. YOUR actions on this forum have shown your type of paganism to be damning and damaging. Because you make up lies about people by falsely accusing them.  WHAT amazes me more is that you suggest the population of homosexuals to be dangerous and Christianity far more dangerous. When in reality I have never suggested or even deemed Christians or Homosexuals to be dangerous. The fact is that in reality our sexuality and religious beliefs do not make us dangerous as individuals. Nor on this forum. The truth is that people do wrong whatevre their beliefs and sexual orientation. But they do not do wrong on this forum according to either religion or homosexuality. The world is not the discussion just us here.

I believe your own bigotry as a pagan is a bigger problem here than anything we Christians or Homosexuals have to add.
Your hatred and intentions words to harm show through your posts...
Truth sets us free. From now on may the Almighty God show everyone clearly the hatred in your heart and bigotry towards any believers posting here. May they always see the reality of the heart of you and your posts. In Jesus Name.
From now on all will see how you falsely accuse others and have no reason for doing so but your own bias towards members here.

[Leonard James]

You cannot love your neighbour and at the same time condemn him for not believing the same things that you do, even though he harms nobody. That is not love.

[Sassy]

Homosexuals are no more mentally ill than heterosexuals.

I think to suggest homosexuals are mentally ill, is far from acceptable.
I also believe - had that been the case, they would not be held accountable for their actions.
WHY do I believe such an interesting point of view?
My own daughter is incapable of understanding right from wrong. I believe God will account innocence towards her.
I believe that God loves us all.

[Rhiannon]

It's really not an interesting point of view, Sass.

[Sassy]

You cannot love your neighbour and at the same time condemn him for not believing the same things that you do, even though he harms nobody. That is not love.

Again, the condemnation thing...
We don't condemn anyone because love for God is that we know he speaks the truth.
The truth is that we do not single our or judge people...not even according to their sin.
If you see someone stealing... is it wrong to say they are a thief because they are stealing?
Is it a judgment or just telling the truth? But we are not condemning them for what they do.

So we would both agree someone stealing your goods or my goods were doing wrong.
But we are not condemning them or condoning their actions.
Because we do not steal, does that make us better people? Can we suggest that person is less a person
because they steal than we are?

The truth is because I am a Christian does not mean him being a non-Christian that he is condemned by me.
A thief harms but we all know someone whether knowingly or not, who have stolen.
Truth is society thinks that being a believer somehow condemns all who are not.
In reality Christianity should cause us to tell the truth and to love our neighbour.
It does not cause us to condemn.

[Sassy]

It's really not an interesting point of view, Sass.

I also believe - had that been the case, they would not be held accountable for their actions.
WHY do I believe such an interesting point of view?

You don't believe that homosexuals not being accountable for their actions if mentally ill, not an interesting point of view.
Why is that?

For it to take away all condemnation not an interesting point of view. EXPLAIN PLEASE...

[Rhiannon]

I have no idea what you are saying. There seems to be quite a few words missing.

Assuming you want to know why I think it isn't interesting - to think it interesting I'd need to think there was some merit in it. And I don't. There isn't any, for a range of reasons.

[Gordon]

Editorial from current Scottish Sunday Mail: times, thank goodness, really are a-changing for the better, as is noted here.

http://tinyurl.com/jxzwb67

[Rhiannon]

My kids' generation just accepts sexuality, all kinds, G. We were discussing this in the light of this thread and my eldest just doesn't get it - even among her peers who are religious she's only heard one negative comment, and that was from a girl whose parents are very conservative. Perhaps some of it is to do with YA fiction of all kinds very often featuring gay relationships in the same context as straight ones ie just part of the plot line.

[Khatru]

If by "the old covenant of the actual law" you are referring to the ten commandments, I believe that Jesus could see that loving God and your neighbour covered them all much more simply.

Of course, the "love your neighbour" bit was already well established thousands of years before Jesus came along. 

[Gonnagle]

Dear Khatru,

Of course, the "love your neighbour" bit was already well established thousands of years before Jesus came along.

And?

Anyway, all this homosexual stuff, just Gods way of tackling population explosion, tis true!! for I am a prophet of God, oh sorry, I am a false prophet of God, well according to our Sass.

For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?

Is this another kind of false prophet/profit.

Gonnagle.

[Leonard James]

Dear Khatru,

And?

Anyway, all this homosexual stuff, just Gods way of tackling population explosion, tis true!! for I am a prophet of God, oh sorry, I am a false prophet of God, well according to our Sass.

Is this another kind of false prophet/profit.

Gonnagle.

I think it would be safe to say that homosexuality evolved long before there was a population problem. 

[Khatru]

Dear Khatru,

And?

Anyway, all this homosexual stuff, just Gods way of tackling population explosion, tis true!! for I am a prophet of God, oh sorry, I am a false prophet of God, well according to our Sass.

Is this another kind of false prophet/profit.

Gonnagle.

Just giving credit where it's due, Gonny.

The Golden Rule was not something that Jesus came up with.

 

[floo]

I think to suggest homosexuals are mentally ill, is far from acceptable.
I also believe - had that been the case, they would not be held accountable for their actions.
WHY do I believe such an interesting point of view?
My own daughter is incapable of understanding right from wrong. I believe God will account innocence towards her.
I believe that God loves us all.

That evil b*stard doesn't know the meaning of love if the Biblical actions of its actions were true!

[Gonnagle]

Dear Leonard,

I

think it would be safe to say that homosexuality evolved long before there was a population problem.

Forward planning Leonard old chap, God knew we were all going to go around shagging everything that moves.

Gonnagle.

[Stranger]

Forward planning Leonard old chap, God knew we were all going to go around shagging everything that moves.

What about the other species that exhibit homosexual behaviour? Practice?

[Leonard James]

Dear Leonard,

I
Forward planning Leonard old chap, God knew we were all going to go around shagging everything that moves.

Gonnagle.

My pillow didn't use to move.     

[floo]

In the 21st century it is really sad and crazy that some people still think there is something abnormal and 'sinful' about homosexuality.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Leonard,

My pillow didn't use to move.

Thank you, that was my first laugh out loud today.

Dear Stranger,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#Etymology

The word homosexual is a Greek and Latin hybrid, with the first element derived from Greek ὁμός homos, "same" (not related to the Latin homo, "man", as in Homo sapiens)

You learn a new thing everyday, I did think that the homo part was related to homo sapiens.

Which gives me pause for thought, you can't argue with nature or can you, do other species who exhibit homosexual behaviour mate for life.

Gonnagle.

[Leonard James]

Dear Leonard,

Thank you, that was my first laugh out loud today.

Dear Stranger,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality#Etymology


You learn a new thing everyday, I did think that the homo part was related to homo sapiens.

Which gives me pause for thought, you can't argue with nature or can you, do other species who exhibit homosexual behaviour mate for life.

Gonnagle.

I believe swans do.

EDIT.

Yes, I was right, but many more do.
http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/photos/11-animals-that-mate-for-life/old-faithful

[SqueakyVoice]

We will see eventually whether or not the West's acceptance of homosexuality makes it stronger. It has been interesting to see how the USA and NATO were powerless to do anything about Russia's recent involvement in Syria.

For a post full of pig ignorant fucking bollocks this is easily the fucking pig ignoranty bollocksy bollocks ever fucking bollocked.