How God disappears as the third person when atheists and agnostics speak...

[Gonnagle]

Dear Leonard,

I am in a cynical frame of mind, religion and politics divide, and my God is a very polite God.

Gonnagle.

[floo]

Dear god, ( please note the small "g" )

Well so far you are on to a winner, God does not do religion or politics, correct but God does not use the word "fucked".

Gonnagle.

How do you know?

[Brownie]

I said I don't play favourites. I have a rule: never discuss religion or politics.

 

Never or only not at the dinner table with people you don't know all that well?  Of course, you would know them, apologies.  I would add 'racism' to your list, 'dinner party racism' should definitely be banned and you can do it.  Respectfully, Lyn

[Khatru]

God help us when it comes to the you and I, and GOD discussions on the forum.
Strange how people see only two in a discussion about God and ignore the third person who is the relevant one of the conversation.
The discussion by the other parties above refer to God as 'it' a lot but when speaking about faith do not acknowledge the God being at the centre of the conversation.

The argument passes backwards and forwards, too and fro and whatever way you want to explain or express it's course.
But the person at the centre God is not acknowledge as being a person.


I see how people also become about grammar, English language and even spelling errors. Not about the topic but about personal innuendo and insult.  It becomes personal attack and the true centre of debate disappears.

So why is it, people do not ask for an explanation rather than assume and rush in where angels fear to tread?

Do atheists and agnostics ever know enough or learn enough about the subject of God before they get involved in discussions about him?

You need to amend the title of this thread.

Try this:

How gods disappear as the third person when non-believers speak

There, I'm sure you'll agree that's much better.

Plural you see...not singular.

That would also cover you if you were talking to an Australian Aborigine about the Great Dreamtime Snake.

[God]

Maybe a silly question, but why do you need to post?

Who said I do?

Why do you need to post? Will you die if you don't? (Obviously, I already know the answer to that question, it was rhetorical)

[Shaker]

Who said I do?

Why do you need to post? Will you die if you don't? (Obviously, I already know the answer to that question, it was rhetorical)

OK then, what am I thinking riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight ...









... now.

[God]

Dear god, ( please note the small "g" )

Well so far you are on to a winner, God does not do religion or politics, correct but God does not use the word "fucked".

Gonnagle.

Dear Gonnagle (please not the large "G" because I don't need to demean people or other deities)

Clearly you are unable to accept the evidence before your eyes because I certainly did use the word "fucked". 

[Brownie]

Watch your language young Godfrey, I'll tell your mum.

[Gonnagle]

Dear god,

Other deities, other fuckin deities, I have the manual pal and in that manual it specifically tells me there is only one God, although according to Floo you can be a bit cantankerous at times, your nose might have been out of joint on that day.

Gonnagle.

[BeRational]

Dear god,

Other deities, other fuckin deities, I have the manual pal and in that manual it specifically tells me there is only one God, although according to Floo you can be a bit cantankerous at times, your nose might have been out of joint on that day.

Gonnagle.

That manual is biased.

Why believe what that manual says?

[jeremyp]

I have the manual pal and in that manual it specifically tells me there is only one God

Are you talking about the Bible? Because parts of the Bible imply that there are other gods. The reason given for not having any other gods before Yahweh is that Yahweh is jealous, not that the other gods are fake.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Jeremyp,

Naw, I am talking about the Haynes manual on car maintenance

Gonnagle.

[Brownie]

My husband studies Haynes manuals religiously, come to think of it.  I'd never before considered him to be religious though he does have an inner glow.

[ippy]

Dear Jeremyp,

Naw, I am talking about the Haynes manual on car maintenance

Gonnagle.

Citron eq, Gonners, French for "lemon"? Sounds about right.

ippy.

 

[ippy]

Who said I do?

Why do you need to post? Will you die if you don't? (Obviously, I already know the answer to that question, it was rhetorical)

Of course, you know all, I'm just a mere mortal.

ippy

[Sassy]

I received a request from somebody on this forum (you in fact) to close it down. However, when I got here, I found you are still posting, so I assume you have changed your mind.

Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?

21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them.

22 And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man.

23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

24 But the word of God grew and multiplied.

Still want to be God? I think a name change in order... you cannot give God the Glory and I am sure you do not want to make out that you are speaking for him.

20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

My advice is cease from the name and stop speaking out as if speaking for God or as God. Unless you want to die for using the name and speaking as if for God. Stupid is as stupid does...

[Stranger]

Unless you want to die for using the name and speaking as if for God. Stupid is as stupid does...

Yeah, you'd better watch out - this god really means business when he says you'll die! Adam only got to live 930 after god told him he'd die - so WATCH IT!

[floo]

Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?
Still want to be God? I think a name change in order... you cannot give God the Glory and I am sure you do not want to make out that you are speaking for him.
My advice is cease from the name and stop speaking out as if speaking for God or as God. Unless you want to die for using the name and speaking as if for God. Stupid is as stupid does...

The irony is breath taking! Of course only Sass is permitted to speak for god! 

[Brownie]

Sass said:  Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?

I may be being a bit dense cym but who do you mean?  I'm presuming you don't mean Jesus.

[horsethorn]

Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?

He lived a long and happy life, surrounded by devoted disciples, and died peacefully at home. Just like many others have done in the past. Some have come into conflict with the authorities, though, and some have committed suicide along with their followers.

Any particular one you were thinking of?

ht

[Sebastian Toe]

Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?

This guy?
Mitsuo Matayoshi


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsuo_Matayoshi

[Sassy]

Yeah, you'd better watch out - this god really means business when he says you'll die! Adam only got to live 930 after god told him he'd die - so WATCH IT!

He did die, as God said he would.
Were you there in the Garden? Were you God? Do you know what God was thinking or Adam?
In Genesis 3 we see why Adam died that day both spiritually and physically.

22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

In the earlier chapter Adam and Eve given the right to eat from the tree of life.
In Genesis 3 it was taken away. So he died that day because the one thing that would keep him alive was removed from him.
So he slowly died and he finally did.

Die, die is the Hebrew wording.

[Sassy]

The irony is breath taking! Of course only Sass is permitted to speak for god! 

God spoke for himself in his own words. Are you really so ignorant of the bible that you cannot tell the difference between the bible references and someone repeating what God said in them.   You seem insistent on making yourself look silly.

[Sassy]

Sass said:  Do you know what happened to the last person who made himself out to be God?

I may be being a bit dense cym but who do you mean?  I'm presuming you don't mean Jesus.

It was there in the POST...

21 And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them.

22 And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man.

23 And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost.

24 But the word of God grew and multiplied.

The above in the post did you skip it?

And this was also in the post...

20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

Did you skip that too?

[Sebastian Toe]

It was there in the POST...

The above in the post did you skip it?

And this was also in the post...

20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

Did you skip that too?

That was in the long distant past so what about now?
Are you saying that everyone who claims to be speaking the word of God or proclaims to be God, will die?