Are there vile homophobic views on this forum

[Shaker]

But you're still trying to get a moral edict from a scattered collection of disparate facts, and furthermore facts that don't apply to the infertile or childless by choice. It can't be done.

[Nearly Sane]

I'm going by what Wiki says:

Male reproductive system

The male reproductive system consists of a number of sex organs that play a role in the process of human reproduction . These organs are located on the outside of the body and within the pelvis.

The main male sex organs are the penis and the testicles which produce semen and sperm, which, as part of sexual intercourse, fertilize an ovum in the female's body; the fertilized ovum (zygote) develops into a fetus, which is later born as an infant.

And how do you get an ought from an is?

[Aruntraveller]

Lock these people up immediately for abnormal use of spoons:

https://youtu.be/6TS9ugnarQQ

[Spud]

The normal function of the mouth is to eat and drink. Do you consider kissing an abnormal function?

No. There are several other functions:
Articulation of sound and speech
Tactile organ (eg in babies, exploring unknown objects)
Facial expression (smile, etc).

Do you consider the scrotum to be important for anything other than storing sperm?

[Aruntraveller]

No. There are several other functions:
Articulation of sound and speech
Tactile organ (eg in babies, exploring unknown objects)
Facial expression (smile, etc).

Do you consider the scrotum to be important for anything other than storing sperm?

For scratching? 

[Shaker]

Do you consider the scrotum to be important for anything other than storing sperm?

http://goo.gl/ME1ENY

[Rhiannon]

Or...

http://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/scrotum-backpack

[Brownie]

The tone of this as I read it, implies that anything Sassy said should not result in a suspension?

Absolutely not NS, I merely said I had no idea about it.  You are reading something else into what I said entirely.  I'd never think anyone above suspension, including myself! 

[Stranger]

I'm going by what Wiki says:

Male reproductive system

....

So, to be absolutely clear: do you think that a lot of heterosexual couples, even those who are married and have (or want to have) children, are just as "abnormal" as homosexuals because they don't use their sex organs in the "normal" way...?

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

No. There are several other functions:
Articulation of sound and speech
Tactile organ (eg in babies, exploring unknown objects)
Facial expression (smile, etc).

Do you consider the scrotum to be important for anything other than storing sperm?

Well if kissing is normal why not a blow job? (not that I am saying that you are abnormal if you don't like preforming or receiving one).

I assume you are male and by the sounds of it haven't experienced one as you seem to think them wrong somehow.

I have been active in the bedroom department for coming on 30 years now. In those times I have dated a few ladies who were perfectly happy to perform one and I was more than happy to receive them!

What it the problem? How would the world, the lady or myself have been better off if these activities had not been entered into?

[Leonard James]

http://goo.gl/ME1ENY

 

[wigginhall]

Spud is following Wikimorality. 

[Bubbles]

Some people have eyes of different colours, one blue, one green, for instance. I bet that would be regarded by some with suspicion even now, and maybe even fear in the bad old days.

With the help of science we should have moved on from automatically branding people as 'sinful' because they stand out from the crowd.

Yes I think people sometimes have a natural fear of the different, some of that is taken away by scientific discoveries or attitudes in society, but not always.

At one time treating homosexuals for being different was considered justifiable by medical people ....

[Owlswing]

You could argue that if you have children they can help plant and harvest the crops, and look after you when you get old. Even now with high population density this would make sense. There is plenty of room in the world, if people don't have too many children.

So what you are saying is that you can have sex to have children and then, when you have enough children for your needs, you become celibate?

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

Interesting to know who voted no. Spud, was it you?

[Shaker]

Spud is following Wikimorality.

I like it 

[Spud]

So what you are saying is that you can have sex to have children and then, when you have enough children for your needs, you become celibate?

No, there is natural family planning. Never tried it myself, but it sounds feasible.

[Rhiannon]

Spud, NFP is used by people who don't want conception to happen. They are still using their bits with the intent not to have a child.

[Owlswing]

No, there is natural family planning. Never tried it myself, but it sounds feasible.

"Natural Family Planning"?

The Catholic church's much vaunted "rhythmn method"?

This method has been in use for hundreds of years and had been about as effective as the chocolate teapot!

 

 

[Brownie]

The rhythm method is old hat Owlswing, natural family planning is different and looks quite complicated to me.   I found this about it:

http://www.fpa.org.uk/contraception-help/natural-family-planning

I do know a couple of people who used that method quite successfully.  However I understand you can now buy something from the chemist which is far simpler, an ovulation predictor.  Simples!  Would that such a thing was available when I was younger, no pill, no messing about, it would have been wonderful.  I'm glad it's available now.

[Owlswing]

The rhythm method is old hat Owlswing, natural family planning is different and looks quite complicated to me.   I found this about it:

http://www.fpa.org.uk/contraception-help/natural-family-planning

I do know a couple of people who used that method quite successfully.  However I understand you can now buy something from the chemist which is far simpler, an ovulation predictor.  Simples!  Would that such a thing was available when I was younger, no pill, no messing about, it would have been wonderful.  I'm glad it's available now.

There is a new contraceptive pill out for women, especially thos who have trouble swallowing tablets. The pill is two-inches in diameter and one-eighth of an inch thick. To prevent impregnation it is held tightly between the girl's/woman's thighs!

[Brownie]

I'm sure there is a way around that Wigginhall.....

[Spud]

But you're still trying to get a moral edict from a scattered collection of disparate facts, and furthermore facts that don't apply to the infertile or childless by choice. It can't be done.

I believe it can. It isn't easy to explain, but the Catholic church has quite thorough teaching on it which I will post some links to, if you have the time to read them.

[Spud]

This quote by Pope Paul VI for example:

The sexual activity, in which husband and wife are intimately and chastely united with one another, through which human life is transmitted, is, as the recent Council recalled, 'noble and worthy.' It does not, moreover, cease to be legitimate even when, for reasons independent of their will, it is foreseen to be infertile. For its natural adaptation to the expression and strengthening of the union of husband and wife is not thereby suppressed. The fact is, as experience shows, that new life is not the result of each and every act of sexual intercourse. God has wisely ordered laws of nature and the incidence of fertility in such a way that successive births are already naturally spaced through the inherent operation of these laws.

[Aruntraveller]

God has wisely ordered laws of nature and the incidence of fertility in such a way that successive births are already naturally spaced through the inherent operation of these laws.

So the fact that homosexuals exist, as God has ordered the incidence of fertility, does not have an effect on the naturally spaced successive births then?