Author Topic: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum  (Read 79158 times)

Saasy has told me I am the only one on this forum who thinks there have been vile homophobic views expressed here. I thought I would do her the honour of conducting some research to see if her view is correct.

I have never seen a homophobic view expressed here that I would consider vile.
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I couldn't believe that someone could say something so vile about homosexual people.
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Spud

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #800 on: May 05, 2016, 07:30:06 PM »
It is words like these that I regard as perverted - it is a perversion of basic human understanding and decency. You are a disgrace.
Okay, the sentence was not sensitively worded. Apologies.

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #801 on: May 05, 2016, 07:48:45 PM »
Telling that you don't mention love or companionship!
Apart from the fact that love and companionship don't require sex: if gay sox, as well as similar acts between heterosexuals, were not a perversion of sexual intercourse, then circumstances could conceivably arise where they might be used for good.
 

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #802 on: May 05, 2016, 07:50:22 PM »
Apart from the fact that love and companionship don't require sex
No, but the full package - love + companionship + sex - is rather nice.

You'll find out one day.

Maybe.
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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #803 on: May 05, 2016, 07:56:08 PM »
Apart from the fact that love and companionship don't require sex: if gay sox, as well as similar acts between heterosexuals, were not a perversion of sexual intercourse, then circumstances could conceivably arise where they might be used for good.

I'm surprised you haven't been headhunted by Relate, Spud.

You really don't have a clue!
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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #804 on: May 05, 2016, 10:12:35 PM »
Is there really ANYTHING a gay couple can do that a so-called straight couple can't or wouldn't ever do.

I say NO !!!

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #805 on: May 06, 2016, 07:57:58 AM »
Is there really ANYTHING a gay couple can do that a so-called straight couple can't or wouldn't ever do.

I say NO !!!

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #806 on: May 06, 2016, 08:08:13 AM »
LOL I DO like that !!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #807 on: May 17, 2016, 03:52:03 PM »
I'm surprised you haven't been headhunted by Relate, Spud.

You really don't have a clue!

Just to clarify. An intrinsically perverted action cannot be justified by good intention.

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #808 on: May 17, 2016, 03:53:30 PM »
Just to clarify. An intrinsically perverted action cannot be justified by good intention.

There is nothing perverted about homosexuality, there is certainly something perverted about anti-gay bigots!

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #809 on: May 17, 2016, 03:55:59 PM »
Just to clarify. An intrinsically perverted action cannot be justified by good intention.

Not sure which actions you are talking about, but please be aware that they may also be carried out by heterosexuals as well.

I think you said that you are not sexually active yet, so you may be quite naive.
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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #810 on: May 17, 2016, 04:49:05 PM »
Just to clarify. An intrinsically perverted action cannot be justified by good intention.

On what authority to you assert both the perversion label and the justification assumption?

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #811 on: May 17, 2016, 05:05:27 PM »
On what authority to you assert both the perversion label and the justification assumption?
British law, perhaps?  Assuming that you are using 'perversion' in this sense -

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #812 on: May 17, 2016, 05:06:25 PM »
There is nothing perverted about homosexuality, there is certainly something perverted about anti-gay bigots!
And your evidence for this claim is ...?  Are you treating British (and other jurisdictional) law as the ultimate arbiter of whether or not something is a perversion?
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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #813 on: May 17, 2016, 05:22:50 PM »
British law, perhaps?  Assuming that you are using 'perversion' in this sense -

I'm not using the term 'perversion' at all: that would be Spud dishing out the homophobia and not me!

I'm asking him what his authority is for his use of that term: do pay attention.

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #814 on: May 17, 2016, 05:29:59 PM »
And your evidence for this claim is ...?  Are you treating British (and other jurisdictional) law as the ultimate arbiter of whether or not something is a perversion?

People who consider homosexuality abnormal and perverted are the ones who have a problem, especially if they use the Bible as an excuse for their bigotry.

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #815 on: May 17, 2016, 05:51:58 PM »
People who consider homosexuality abnormal and perverted are the ones who have a problem, especially if they use the Bible as an excuse for their bigotry.

I think you will find that those who use the Koran tend to be rather nastier.

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #816 on: May 17, 2016, 06:21:35 PM »
I think you will find that those who use the Koran tend to be rather nastier.
Historically that's a rather more recent development.
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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #817 on: May 18, 2016, 08:28:21 AM »
I think you will find that those who use the Koran tend to be rather nastier.

It would be hard to be much nastier than some Christians on the topic of homosexuality, past and present!

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #818 on: May 18, 2016, 08:43:44 AM »
It would be hard to be much nastier than some Christians on the topic of homosexuality, past and present!

I haven't noticed leaders in Christianity today calling for homosexuals to be thrown off high buildings.

It isn't just Isis, or even just Sunni Islam.

https://pjmedia.com/blog/watch-leading-islamic-scholars-justify-executing-stoning-and-shooting-gays/
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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #819 on: May 18, 2016, 08:49:15 AM »
I haven't noticed leaders in Christianity today calling for homosexuals to be thrown off high buildings.

I am quite sure some Christians would have no problem with that evil suggestion. A now banned Christian R&E poster prided himself of his ghastly anti-gay stance, and stated he would turn a blind eye if he saw a gay being beaten up.

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #820 on: May 18, 2016, 08:52:29 AM »
I am quite sure some Christians would have no problem with that evil suggestion. A now banned Christian R&E poster prided himself of his ghastly anti-gay stance, and stated he would turn a blind eye if he saw a gay being beaten up.

A lot of Christian leaders would condemn his stance though.


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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #821 on: May 18, 2016, 08:56:24 AM »
... so you may be quite naive.

No shit.

Bubbles

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #822 on: May 18, 2016, 09:09:51 AM »
It must be quite hard being a gay Muslim too.

Although some of the replies by some Muslims here ( link below) show some good heart.

They sound a bit like Christians.

http://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/5686/why-is-homosexuality-a-sin-if-allah-made-me-this-way

( I put that in to show what we hear in the media about various Imams might not reflect all Muslims, other than that, the Islamic reaction otherwise looks quite scary on homosexuality as portrayed by media )

Islam sounds a lot more nasty in its reaction to gay people, Christianity ( apart from Westboro ) looks a lot more relaxed about it.

Perhaps I have faulty perceptions about it?, but that's my impression.

I can see with this link more moderate Muslims sound more like Christians.

Disliking what they see as wrong, while feeling some empathy for another person ( or at least not lobbing them off a building).

It's when religion gets control of the laws it's goes further than just an opinion.

When I feel it's just an opinion it's something that just is, people hold differing opinions all the time.

IMO there is a difference in holding an opinion,and affecting someone else's life for the worst.

It crosses a line

It says a lot for having secular laws.

It allows us the right to be different.
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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #823 on: May 18, 2016, 09:12:53 AM »
A lot of Christian leaders would condemn his stance though.

Yes they would.

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Re: Are there vile homophobic views on this forum
« Reply #824 on: May 18, 2016, 09:39:30 AM »
It must be quite hard being a gay Muslim too.

Although some of the replies by some Muslims here ( link below) show some good heart.


My dear - it's not at all possible to be gay AND a Muslim, sorry !!!