domestic violence is caused by women 'not obeying men

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Certainly sound bad but .... the article says he said 'The majority of cases of domestic violence happen because the woman’s partner does not accept them, or rejects them for not accepting their demands.' so could he just have been, somewhat clumsily perhaps, highlighting the thinking of the people carrying out the domestic violence rather than his own thinking? Did he actually say women should obey their husbands? When very little of what he says is quoted it is hard to tell if a 'spin' has been put on it.

What about domestic violence committed by women against children? Are they not the majority of cases of domestic violence"?

[Brownie]

I found this on the SaveLives site:

Key statistics about domestic abuse in England and Wales 

Each year around 2.1m people suffer some form of domestic abuse -  1.4 million women (8.5% of the population) and 700,000 men (4.5% of the population)  2
Each year more than 100,000 people in the UK are at high and imminent risk of being murdered or seriously injured as a result of domestic abuse 3
Women are much more likely than men to be the victims of high risk or severe domestic abuse: 95% of those going to Marac or accessing an Idva service are women 4,
In 2013-14 the police recorded 887,000 domestic abuse incidents in England and Wales  2
Seven women a month are killed by a current or former partner in England and Wales 2
130,000 children live in homes where there is high-risk domestic abuse 3
62% of children living with domestic abuse are directly harmed by the perpetrator of the abuse, in addition to the harm caused by witnessing the abuse of others 1
On average high-risk victims live with domestic abuse for 2.6 years before getting help4
85% of victims sought help five times on average from professionals in the year before they got effective help to stop the abuse
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There is plenty more information.  The thing with children is that they often don't report abuse.


 

[floo]

What about domestic violence committed by women against children? Are they not the majority of cases of domestic violence"?

Where do you get the evidence to support that statement?

[Brownie]

I was surprised by that too, floo.  I can't imagine women generally being violent to children though the odd case gets into the paper sometimes, usually something really dreadful, but then it is frequently a couple who have abused the child, not a woman on her own.

Still it does happen, there are women in the world who are bitter and cannot control their tempers.  However not ''most'' as Humph suggests.

[floo]

I was surprised by that too, floo.  I can't imagine women generally being violent to children though the odd case gets into the paper sometimes, usually something really dreadful, but then it is frequently a couple who have abused the child, not a woman on her own.

Still it does happen, there are women in the world who are bitter and cannot control their tempers.  However not ''most'' as Humph suggests.

Yes women can be violent to kids, but much more often it is the male of the species, imo.

[Brownie]

I agree or else a woman under the influence of a man.

[ippy]

Provocation by women, when the list of jobs wanting to be done around the house has been completed, why is there allways another one, Aaaaaggggg!!!!

Ippy

[Brownie]

Because there always is another job, ippy, and anyway everything is your fault, is it not? 

[jeremyp]

Seriously?

Fury as archbishop says domestic violence is caused by women 'not obeying men'

I expect that is true for quite a lot of domestic violence. I don't see how that excuses the violence though.

[ippy]

Because there always is another job, ippy, and anyway everything is your fault, is it not? 

There you are you've just demonstrated my point, I'm begining to think this sort of thing is a cooperative world wide conspiricy by women, the evidence lies in the consistancy of reported cases, you speak to any man, mind you I still try to keep smiling, sombody has to carry on in spite of all the hardship and dedicated time we spend trying to do our best.

Is that enough Brownie?

ippy

[Brownie]

Onwards and upwards ippy.

[ippy]

Onwards and upwards ippy.

One is allways humble.

ippy

[Alien]

Evenin' all.

What is the Mirror's source? Was there a Mirror reporter listening to the sermon?

Anyone?

[Maeght]

What about domestic violence committed by women against children? Are they not the majority of cases of domestic violence"?

No idea. Why was that asked whilst quoting my post?

[Maeght]

Anyone?

How would we know - we weren't there. I did allude to this in my earlier post - could all be spin in the reporting.

[Hope]

What about domestic violence committed by women against children? Are they not the majority of cases of domestic violence"?

Is that form of abuse deemed 'domestic', Humph?  Isn't it termed 'child' abuse?  However, I think I know where you're coming from. Is 'child abuse' by family members a subset of 'domestic abuse'?

[Sassy]

Good grief give me strength now Rose takes notice of the Roman Catholic Church and the originators of the man of sin.

 When you  vote to stay in Europe the RC church WILL BE  the official church of Europe trust me it is done and dusted.

                             ~TW~

I had already told people that the RC will be the official church of Europe and it is a done deal.
No one believed me and now you suddenly step up and say the same thing. Can't remember you backing me when I said it.

So the end is coming but who the flippin heck is ready...

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[Rhiannon]

I expect that is true for quite a lot of domestic violence. I don't see how that excuses the violence though.

I get your point, Jeremy, but a lot of domestic violence happens in so-called relationships where the victim does anything to keep the perpetrator happy (quite literally does obey), but the abuser just keeps moving the goalposts.

[floo]

I had already told people that the RC will be the official church of Europe and it is a done deal.
No one believed me and now you suddenly step up and say the same thing. Can't remember you backing me when I said it.

So the end is coming but who the flippin heck is ready...

What the heck has the RCC got to do with whether we stay in the EU? DUH!

[Khatru]

Good grief give me strength now Rose takes notice of the Roman Catholic Church and the originators of the man of sin.

 When you  vote to stay in Europe the RC church WILL BE  the official church of Europe trust me it is done and dusted.

                             ~TW~

Whether or not we remain in Europe,  the C of E will remain the official church. 

Well, until it is dis-established by the people of this country.

[Brownie]

Yes I think so too.  France and Belgium, though they have more Catholics than over here, are secular governments.  I don't follow how the Catholic Church can be the ''official church'' over so many countries where the majority of people don't adhere to it (it is losing membership everywhere anyway, with many churches closing), or any other church for that matter.  The EU has to be secular, were it otherwise it would not be truly representative of EU countries.  No-one would stand for it, history shows that religion and politics don't mix.

[Hope]

Whether or not we remain in Europe,  the C of E will remain the official church. 

Well, until it is dis-established by the people of this country.

So, perhaps its time that people joined with the church to press for that, Khatru.  There have been a number of attempts over my lifetime from within the church, especially the clergy, to that end.  Whenever it gets beyond an internal discussion, it seemss to become unstuck in secular politrics, in the same way that attempts to update things like the Book of Common Prayer have been turned down by Parliament.

[floo]

So, perhaps its time that people joined with the church to press for that, Khatru.  There have been a number of attempts over my lifetime from within the church, especially the clergy, to that end.  Whenever it gets beyond an internal discussion, it seemss to become unstuck in secular politrics, in the same way that attempts to update things like the Book of Common Prayer have been turned down by Parliament.

Religion and politics are not good bedfellows, imo.

[Sassy]

What the heck has the RCC got to do with whether we stay in the EU? DUH!

Read the flippin post. It is about what the EU really stands for.
Had you known any prophecies from the 7o;s or even 60's you would know the EU and the one currency were foretold.
That you have no idea of a book you have claimed to read is becoming more and more apparent.

[Sassy]

Whether or not we remain in Europe,  the C of E will remain the official church. 

Well, until it is dis-established by the people of this country.

You have not idea about the difference between the powerful Church/People of God and the establishments...do you?