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« Reply #75 on: October 04, 2016, 08:35:52 AM »
Domestic violence is no different from any other type of bullying.

It could be either partner who is attacking the good order and good health of the other. It's just an unpleasent fact of life that one partner wants to dominate the other. It starts with attacking the emotional strength of the other without being too honest about it. Winding them up and forcing aggression down the others throat until they are worn out emotionally and can put up no resistance. It's easy to work this out when you have seen bullying up close and personal.

The bit that intrigues me is that it appears to be the same mechanics we inflict on our own genetics. We clean the car on a Sunday...make sure it is serviced regularly, we paint our homes and fill them with fine adornments but we ignore the good order of our own inner being. When our genetics have had enough, may I suggest, they too start going wild and uncontrollable, malfunctioning in absurd ways and pass on this genetic pattern to other tired body cells...just a thought.

I can offer a cure all in both instances but I'm afraid Jesus Christ is involved as well.

People who follow Jesus perpetrate domestic violence too!

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« Reply #76 on: October 04, 2016, 08:45:52 AM »

People who follow Jesus perpetrate domestic violence too!


. . . and by attitudes like the Bishop's perpertuate it!
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« Reply #77 on: October 04, 2016, 09:01:02 AM »
People who follow Jesus perpetrate domestic violence too!

Not normally those who try to follow Jesus' accurate teaching because it breeds love, caring, understanding, patience and a desire for peace. Iniquity, on the other hand, doesn't.


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« Reply #78 on: October 04, 2016, 09:03:47 AM »
Not normally those who try to follow Jesus' accurate teaching because it breeds love, caring, understanding, patience and a desire for peace. Iniquity, on the other hand, doesn't.

Some of the behaviour attributed to Jesus in the gospels didn't display those virtues!

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« Reply #79 on: October 04, 2016, 09:37:14 AM »
Some of the behaviour attributed to Jesus in the gospels didn't display those virtues!


Jesus displayed righteousness throughout...the problem with righteousness is that it is perceived as hostile to those who refuse to be guided by it. They prefer an unstructured teaching which says do as you please and just like domestic violence it usually means dominating the hell out of others.


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« Reply #80 on: October 04, 2016, 10:00:21 AM »

Jesus displayed righteousness throughout...the problem with righteousness is that it is perceived as hostile to those who refuse to be guided by it. They prefer an unstructured teaching which says do as you please and just like domestic violence it usually means dominating the hell out of others.


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« Reply #81 on: October 04, 2016, 10:14:40 AM »
People who follow Jesus perpetrate domestic violence too!

Jeremiah 5:21...see Owlswing even you are quoting the Holy Bible at me now.


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« Reply #82 on: October 04, 2016, 10:28:12 AM »
Iniquity isn't the work of Jesus Christ

Iniquity was created by the Bible god.

He created perfect angels to be with him in heaven yet he found iniquity in Satan.  It is said that the Bible god created everything so this would include the iniquity he put into Satan.

If I have breathed new life in an old thread I am sorry..but resurrection is a bit like that.

As we know, when it comes to being resurrected, Jesus Christ hold no monopoly and there are many more people who have come back from the dead.

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« Reply #83 on: October 04, 2016, 10:51:32 AM »

Jeremiah 5:21...see Owlswing even you are quoting the Holy Bible at me now.


Moderator: content removed. - I have posted before that I was brought up a Christian - Moderator: content removed - like you that made me give it up!

And remember - the Devil can quote scripture to his purpose! If he can I'm bloody sure that I can!
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« Reply #84 on: October 04, 2016, 11:12:53 AM »
Iniquity was created by the Bible god.

He created perfect angels to be with him in heaven yet he found iniquity in Satan.  It is said that the Bible god created everything so this would include the iniquity he put into Satan.

As we know, when it comes to being resurrected, Jesus Christ hold no monopoly and there are many more people who have come back from the dead.

The politics in Heaven aren't our greatest concern at the moment...we have Satan down here to deal with and it appears he has quite a following. Our future revolves around the teaching in the Holy Bible...its not pretty for any of us but, we are assured that those who follow Jesus will have the only chance available for survival. If I'm wrong, and I'm not, then what has anyone lost other than gained a piece of Jesus' peace, with a strong chance of resurrection.


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« Reply #85 on: October 04, 2016, 11:13:35 AM »

Jesus displayed righteousness throughout...the problem with righteousness is that it is perceived as hostile to those who refuse to be guided by it. They prefer an unstructured teaching which says do as you please and just like domestic violence it usually means dominating the hell out of others.

Having temper tantrums where the fig tree and Temple were concerned, and playing silly exorcism hocus pocus resulting in the death of a lot of pigs, is righteousness is it?

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« Reply #86 on: October 04, 2016, 11:28:29 AM »
Depends how you do it.
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« Reply #87 on: October 04, 2016, 11:43:06 AM »
Having temper tantrums where the fig tree and Temple were concerned, and playing silly exorcism hocus pocus resulting in the death of a lot of pigs, is righteousness is it?

There are deeper spiritual points being made here...but you aren't able to cope with them...Floo.

If you have a spiritual existence then others do and before Jesus these could cause enormous problems...they still do in fact but righteousness can keep them at bay...providing we believe in Jesus as the exposer of things we are still unable to understand.

Those involved in domestic violence or any bullying will tell you that the bully acts as one possessed...and that is bad spiritual energy expressing itself.

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« Reply #88 on: October 04, 2016, 11:53:02 AM »
with a strong chance of resurrection.

So your god will slaughter every man, woman, child, baby and animal on this planet.

Lots of love there, eh?
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« Reply #89 on: October 04, 2016, 11:54:14 AM »
There are deeper spiritual points being made here...but you aren't able to cope with them...Floo.

If you have a spiritual existence then others do and before Jesus these could cause enormous problems...they still do in fact but righteousness can keep them at bay...providing we believe in Jesus as the exposer of things we are still unable to understand.

Those involved in domestic violence or any bullying will tell you that the bully acts as one possessed...and that is bad spiritual energy expressing itself.

Jesus had a temper, cursing a fig tree because he couldn't get any fruit of it out of season was just plain silly. Trashing the Temple was vandalism, the tax collectors were permitted to use the place. If he didn't like it, he should have complained to the Temple authorities. As for the incident with the pigs that was animal cruelty and inexcusable, especially as there is no evidence Jesus compensated the farmer for their loss. If you think any of that was righteous anger, it is an excuse for bad behaviour, imo.

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« Reply #90 on: October 04, 2016, 12:28:52 PM »
So your god will slaughter every man, woman, child, baby and animal on this planet.

Lots of love there, eh?
Without knowing your Holy Bible Khatru you are feeling your way in the dark. Certainly some will be saved and will form the righteous government so that there is no vacuum afterwards...but those that do read the Holy Bible know that inevitable death can also offer resurrection...providing we get Jesus' righteous teaching right.


If Almighty God had deliberately pointed Wormwood at us you might have a grievance but he didn't...it is simply an astronomical fact that he has warned those that can listen, obey, and follow Jesus Christ...about.

Matthew 24:21 says it best.




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« Reply #91 on: October 04, 2016, 03:07:25 PM »
we have Satan down here to deal with
What's he up to right now then Nick?
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« Reply #92 on: October 04, 2016, 03:49:00 PM »
What's he up to right now then Nick?

If you took instruction from the Holy Bible Seb you wouldn't need to ask that question. Wherever he is he is wheeling and dealing in evil and the black-hole from which he operates will be whirling and swirling pulling in all corruption and deceit so that the innocent and the righteous have no chance unless they are devout in their undertaking to resist him.

I have to tell you these things Seb because soon there will be no second chances...Soon, here, means no one knows the hour or the day, not even the son of man, only the father who is in Heaven.


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« Reply #93 on: October 04, 2016, 05:49:49 PM »

If you took instruction from the Holy Bible Seb you wouldn't need to ask that question. Wherever he is he is wheeling and dealing in evil and the black-hole from which he operates will be whirling and swirling pulling in all corruption and deceit so that the innocent and the righteous have no chance unless they are devout in their undertaking to resist him.

I have to tell you these things Seb because soon there will be no second chances...Soon, here, means no one knows the hour or the day, not even the son of man, only the father who is in Heaven.


So your God, loving Father to everyone on Earth, is going to sit on his Heavenly throne looking down at us pathetic humans gloating that we, poor idiots that we are, know what he has planned for us, as we have been told for centuries that the Devil operates on Earth only with God's permission as God is all powerful and therefore can stop Satan anytime he wishes. but we just don't know when and when he does unleash his Holocaust of Satanic Hell upon us, he is going to be laughing his sadistic socks off, gloating that "I told you so!!"

Some loving God! NOT!
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« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2016, 06:24:23 PM »
So your God, loving Father to everyone on Earth, is going to sit on his Heavenly throne looking down at us pathetic humans gloating that we, poor idiots that we are, know what he has planned for us, as we have been told for centuries that the Devil operates on Earth only with God's permission as God is all powerful and therefore can stop Satan anytime he wishes. but we just don't know when and when he does unleash his Holocaust of Satanic Hell upon us, he is going to be laughing his sadistic socks off, gloating that "I told you so!!"

Some loving God! NOT!

Everyone will have the same chance Owlswing...a natural great tribulation will hit planet Earth and you along with everyone else have been given exactly the same information to protect themselves by. We have had 2000 years to prepare. Some have, some haven't, bothered. Even now some will argue the toss whilst others will just comply...those that comply will have lost nothing...they already want peace, harmony, truth, honesty, good will, good order in their lives and, quite frankly, is only on offer via the Holy Bible. Other man-made groups use similar words but usually offer deceit, corruption and more of the same.

Now that is truly a loving God because he hasn't ignored our fate...he's just put strict conditions on it.

A loving God who taught us that those who bully others out of their emotional strength will be totally barred.
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« Reply #95 on: October 04, 2016, 06:43:13 PM »
Somewhat off topic I think.

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« Reply #96 on: October 04, 2016, 06:44:12 PM »


Now that is truly a loving God because he hasn't ignored our fate...he's just put strict conditions on it.

That just adds dictator to all his other faults.
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« Reply #97 on: October 04, 2016, 07:01:39 PM »
That just adds dictator to all his other faults.

Almighty God has never denied that he is a loving dictator. Iniquity has made him a soft, ineffective, non-existent  push-over.


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« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2016, 07:04:31 PM »

Almighty God has never denied that he is a loving dictator. Iniquity has made him a soft, ineffective, non-existent  push-over.


End of story. Iniquity has won!
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« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2016, 07:59:32 PM »
you along with everyone else have been given exactly the same information to protect themselves by.
Except for all those poor unfortunates who have not been given the information, who have not heard of Jesus. Did they slip your mind?
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