After The Fall

[~TW~]

Newnature

                             It looks like the girls are getting their knickers in a twist. 

    ~TW~

[bluehillside Retd.]

new algorithm,

I present my case. It is interesting though.

No you haven't and so no it isn't. I asked you some perfectly clear questions - why just ignore them?

[~TW~]

new algorithm,

No you haven't and so no it isn't. I asked you some perfectly clear questions - why just ignore them?

 Go back and reread the post of newnature they are very easy to understand.All the answers are there.

              ~TW~

[newnature]

You have an overactive imagination.

Ezekiel, a prophet who was a priest, he was deported in the first deportation. There was deportation of exiles in 597. Ezekiel was in exile in Babylon during the final destruction and the fall of Jerusalem in 587. After 587, Ezekiel had a remarkable vision, among many. There’s a stormy wind and a huge cloud, and a flashing fire, Yahweh is riding on a kind of throne chariot. 


Yahweh’s enthroned above four magnificent creatures. Each of these has a human body and then four faces: the face of a human, the face of a lion, the face of an ox, and the face of an eagle. There are four huge wheels under this throned-chariot, and they are said to gleam like beryl beneath a vast and awe-inspiring expanse or dome, which gleams like crystal. Above that is the semblance of a throne that is like sapphire, and on the throne was the semblance of a human form that’s gleaming like amber, and its fire encased in a frame, which is radiant all about. 


This fire that’s encased, is in a cloud that contains or hides the fire that is Yahweh’s presence. So this kavod, describing the presence of Yahweh among his people, Yahweh is concealed and revealed only in his kavod.

[~TW~]

Ezekiel, a prophet who was a priest, he was deported in the first deportation. There was deportation of exiles in 597. Ezekiel was in exile in Babylon during the final destruction and the fall of Jerusalem in 587. After 587, Ezekiel had a remarkable vision, among many. There’s a stormy wind and a huge cloud, and a flashing fire, Yahweh is riding on a kind of throne chariot. 


Yahweh’s enthroned above four magnificent creatures. Each of these has a human body and then four faces: the face of a human, the face of a lion, the face of an ox, and the face of an eagle. There are four huge wheels under this throned-chariot, and they are said to gleam like beryl beneath a vast and awe-inspiring expanse or dome, which gleams like crystal. Above that is the semblance of a throne that is like sapphire, and on the throne was the semblance of a human form that’s gleaming like amber, and its fire encased in a frame, which is radiant all about. 


This fire that’s encased, is in a cloud that contains or hides the fire that is Yahweh’s presence. So this kavod, describing the presence of Yahweh among his people, Yahweh is concealed and revealed only in his kavod.

More please.

           ~TW~

[bluehillside Retd.]

new algorithm,

Just out of interest, are you capable only of regurgitating the bits of a text that appeal to you or do you intend ever to set out why you think this text is a reliable guide to anything?

Oh, and while you're at it do you want to stick with the nonsense of "all the stars revolving" around the Pole Star or can you at least acknowledge that - while you're entitled to make up your own opinions - you don't also get to make up your own facts?

[bluehillside Retd.]

TW,

More please.

Seriously - this unhinged gibberish is actually appealing to you?

Seriously seriously?

[newnature]

I give up, mate! You are completely ensnared in rubbish stories, and are too dim to see how silly they are.

Furthermore I'm too old to waste my time pointing the truth out to you. I'll leave it to the younger, more capable people here.

Don't give up. That Ark Moses is the only place the second Adam's blood would do any good. What good would his blood do dripping on a piece of wood? Follow the history of that Ark.

[newnature]

I think, nn, you're going to have to take a step back and demonstrate why we shouldn't consider these as being just one set (there are others) of ancient myths dating from more credulous times.

Revelation chapter four is the first vision “in Heaven” the Throne and its surroundings. 24 elders sitting, round about the throne, arrayed in white garments and on their heads crowns of gold.  David arranged his twenty-four courses of the Priesthood after the heavenly order. It was the same in the case of the Tabernacle which served “unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as when Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the Tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern showed thee in the mount.” Hence, they are called “patterns of things in the heaven. It was the same with David and the Temple, so that when David copied on earth was a pattern of real things “in the heaven.” The Temple worship on earth was therefore modeled on that worship which is carried on in heaven: and which, if we were caught up now, we should see being carried on there by these heavenly leaders of heaven’s worship.

[bluehillside Retd.]

new algorithm,

Revelation chapter four is the first vision “in Heaven” the Throne and its surroundings. 24 elders sitting, round about the throne, arrayed in white garments and on their heads crowns of gold.  David arranged his twenty-four courses of the Priesthood after the heavenly order. It was the same in the case of the Tabernacle which served “unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as when Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the Tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern showed thee in the mount.” Hence, they are called “patterns of things in the heaven. It was the same with David and the Temple, so that when David copied on earth was a pattern of real things “in the heaven.” The Temple worship on earth was therefore modeled on that worship which is carried on in heaven: and which, if we were caught up now, we should see being carried on there by these heavenly leaders of heaven’s worship.

Try reading what you're actually being asked - it was a "why" question. Just regurgitating more gibberish doesn't answer that. You really seem to believe this stuff to be a reliable guide to what's true - the question is though, why should anyone else?

[newnature]

Dear newnature,

What's your take on "The Science of Righteousness" or "Dynamic Energy"

Gonnagle.

No one has a self-defense plea that will successfully excuse them from being counted worthy of God’s wrath. No one therefore, will be able to escape the judgment of God by anything that they do.

[newnature]

What literal words could portray these literal facts so wonderfully as these expressive figures of speech?


You have provided nothing whatsoever to suggest it is anything more than an old myth.

What is the riddle of the Sphinx?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Gonners,

What's your take on "The Science of Righteousness" or "Dynamic Energy"

1. It's not science.

2. All energy is "dynamic".

You're welcome 

[floo]

No one has a self-defense plea that will successfully excuse them from being counted worthy of God’s wrath. No one therefore, will be able to escape the judgment of God by anything that they do.

You have NO evidence to support that statement, the Bible is not evidence.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Just to note that making up your own facts does seem to be a trait of the fundie - Hope told us that cancer was a recent phenomenon (though I think he backtracked on that later on), Sassy tells us that not all planets have gravity, and now new tells us that all stars revolve around the Pole Star.

Must be quite liberating just to make up your own facts so as to fit whatever religious narrative most appeals, though I suspect it's less than helpful if you want to practice medicine or engineering or astronomy.

[Gordon]

Moderator:

I see a couple of posts that veer too far towards comments about members being mentally ill, so I'm going to remove these.

Please try and avoid making comments that go beyond lighthearted banter.

[SqueakyVoice]

What is the riddle of the Sphinx?

Oh! Me! Me! I know this one. It goes;

"My sphynx has got no nose."
"How does it smell?"
"Terrible..."

[SusanDoris]

new,

Are you a person or some kind of random word generator? If the former, I hear that Ryman's have a sale on green ink this week - better hurry!

Thank you for the laugh. It has taken me only a couple of New's posts to realise that I shall be scrolling past them in order to read the responses.

[~TW~]

One of best days on here for a long time  Just a quick question with all you chaps changing names is Alien still around and 2Corrie I know where Spud is and how about the Scotsman who was into Egypt have they all left?
~TW~

[wigginhall]

TW, I think they've all been Raptured.   Are you late for it?

[SusanDoris]

Oh! Me! Me! I know this one. It goes;

"My sphynx has got no nose."
"How does it smell?"
"Terrible..."

I like your new user name!!

Well, I've read through all six pages now and New's posts - some of them were fairly short, so I did read quite a few - come into the top ten for meaningless gobbledegook, and by the time I reached the end, I am of the opinion that they are not even remotely amusing.

[~TW~]

TW, I think they've all been Raptured.   Are you late for it?

 So they have gone this forum has lost a lot of good people it most certainly has died in a lot of ways shame all we  have are those in the hell bound club and I enjoyed newnature leading these jokers today really entertaining more needed.

                       ~TW~ 

[Dicky Underpants]

What is the riddle of the Sphinx?

 One sixth of an ephah from each homer of wheat, and one sixth of an ephah from each homer of barley,

[bluehillside Retd.]

TW,

So they have gone this forum has lost a lot of good people it most certainly has died in a lot of ways shame all we  have are those in the hell bound club and I enjoyed newnature leading these jokers today really entertaining more needed.

Green-inked ravings and made up "facts" do not constitute "leading" anyone - they're just a bit sad to witness really.

[~TW~]

TW,

Green-inked ravings and made up "facts" do not constitute "leading" anyone - they're just a bit sad to witness really.

With your imagination made up facts pertaining to your imagination are easy come.But you are in the shadow of newnature this chap is a breath of fresh air.
~TW~