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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #175 on: April 22, 2016, 12:26:45 AM »
What Fall?

Was there ever a "fall"

Didn't we pick ourselves up from this inconvenience and jollied the wee man along?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #176 on: April 22, 2016, 12:30:03 AM »
*wee man being the illiterates who followed what churchie people told them to...
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #177 on: April 22, 2016, 12:34:17 AM »
..fuckwits, morons, idiots, retards, cretins, imbeciles, twats all come to mind.. as additions to the illiterates already mentioned.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #178 on: April 22, 2016, 01:09:40 AM »
new algorithm,

Try reading what you're actually being asked - it was a "why" question. Just regurgitating more gibberish doesn't answer that. You really seem to believe this stuff to be a reliable guide to what's true - the question is though, why should anyone else?

Should anyone else, why not. It's better then what you have to say.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #179 on: April 22, 2016, 01:12:03 AM »
You have NO evidence to support that statement, the Bible is not evidence.

Paul knew that the defense mechanism resident within the pride nature of the human heart would be instant in it’s response to protest the accusation of wrath worthiness.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #180 on: April 22, 2016, 01:18:12 AM »
Just to note that making up your own facts does seem to be a trait of the fundie - Hope told us that cancer was a recent phenomenon (though I think he backtracked on that later on), Sassy tells us that not all planets have gravity, and now new tells us that all stars revolve around the Pole Star.

Must be quite liberating just to make up your own facts so as to fit whatever religious narrative most appeals, though I suspect it's less than helpful if you want to practice medicine or engineering or astronomy.

The same movement which has changed the relative position of these two stars has also caused the constellation of the Southern cross to become invisible in northern latitudes. When the constellations were formed the Southern Cross was visible in N. latitude 40, and was included in their number. But, though known by tradition, it had not been seen in that latitude for some twenty centuries, until voyages to the Cape of Good Hope were made.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #181 on: April 22, 2016, 01:21:45 AM »
Oh! Me! Me! I know this one. It goes;

"My sphynx has got no nose."
"How does it smell?"
"Terrible..."

The “Sphinx” was invented as a memorial. It had the head of a woman and the body and tail of a lion, to tell us that this Book, written in the Heaven, began with the Sign “Virgo”, and will end with the Sign “Leo”. The word “sphinx” is from the Greek sphinx, to join; because it binds together the two ends of this circle of the heaven.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #182 on: April 22, 2016, 01:35:49 AM »
I like your new user name!!

Well, I've read through all six pages now and New's posts - some of them were fairly short, so I did read quite a few - come into the top ten for meaningless gobbledegook, and by the time I reached the end, I am of the opinion that they are not even remotely amusing.

The word ‘till’ marking the uncertainty, which was conditional on the repentance of the nation. Note the word ‘till’ in Matt. 10:23; 16:28; 23:39 what is certain with what is uncertain?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #183 on: April 22, 2016, 01:47:33 AM »
You can't be for real... absolutely nobody with access to a computer can be that ignorant.

Genesis 1:14-19 reveals the fact that the stars were created, not only “to divide the day from the night, and to give light upon the earth”; but, they were set “for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years”. “And” is the figure of speech Polysyndeton or Many Ands. The repetition of the word “and” at the beginning of successive clauses, each independent, important, and emphatic, with no climax at the end. The figure emphasizes these four purposes, and bids us to single them out and consider them separately and independently. 


They are for Signs. The Hebrew word oth, from athah, means to come. Signs, therefore, of something or some One to come. Those who understand them are enlightened by them. Those who do not may well be “dismayed” Jer. 10:2. For more than 2,500 years, the revelation of the hope which God gave in Genesis 3:15 was preserved in the naming of the stars and their grouping in Signs and Constellations.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #184 on: April 22, 2016, 01:49:44 AM »
Whit... You been on the pish again?

Pish-a-dew.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #185 on: April 22, 2016, 01:53:16 AM »
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Got something intelligent to add No Nature.. Unnatural.. frukwanker..

whjatever!!

I took out something that makes no since, some kind of superiority teaching that seems to be added to Hebrews?

Hebrews 1:1-3:15;

From of old, Yahweh spoke to the Israelites fathers by the prophets in every manner, and in all ways; but in these later days, Yahweh has conversed with us, by his son; whom Yahweh has constituted heir of all things, and when Yeshua made a purgation of sins, then Yeshua sat down on the right hand of Yahweh. Wherefore, my brethren, who are called with a calling that is from heaven, consider this high priest of our profession, Yeshua the Messiah; because Yahweh has said, “O, if you would but heed my charge this day; do not be stubborn as at Meribah, in the wilderness, when your fathers put me to the test, tried me, though they had seen my deeds.

Forty years I was provoked by that generation; I thought, they are a senseless people; they would not know my ways. Concerning them, I swore in anger, they shall never come to my resting-place!” Beware, therefore, my brethren, lest there be in any of us an evil heart that believes not, and we depart from the living Yahweh; but we need to examine ourselves all the days, during the day which is called today; and let none of us be hardened, through the deceitfulness of sin; for we have part with the Messiah, if we persevere in this firm confidence, from the beginning to the end; as it was said, “O, if you would but heed my charge this day.” Do not harden your hearts to anger Yahweh.

Hebrews 1:4-2:18; 3:2-6 is what was left out?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #186 on: April 22, 2016, 02:07:04 AM »
What Fall?

Was there ever a "fall"

Didn't we pick ourselves up from this inconvenience and jollied the wee man along?

For Adam and Eve to have true freedom of will, Adam and Eve have to have the freedom to rebel. This is why this tree is in the garden, next to the tree of life; instead, evil will come about as a result of the clash of the will of Yahweh, and the will of humans, who happen to have the freedom to rebel. Human beings, and only human beings are the potential source of evil, responsibility for evil will lie in the hands of human beings. Yet, evil is represented not as a physical reality, it’s not built into the structure of Eden, evil is a condition of human existence, and to assert that evil stems from human behavior. The drama of Adam and Eve’s life should revolve not around the search for eternal l
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #187 on: April 22, 2016, 02:10:40 AM »
*wee man being the illiterates who followed what churchie people told them to...

I don't eat at the Cafeteria of Christianity. Each group placing on their plate the portion, or portions of Scripture that appeal most to them. “We want this, but we will ignore that.” “We will take one of these, but we will leave the others off our plate.” But we can not pick and choose whatever doctrine suits our appetites, as though it is left up to us to serve ourselves.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #188 on: April 22, 2016, 02:14:02 AM »
..fuckwits, morons, idiots, retards, cretins, imbeciles, twats all come to mind.. as additions to the illiterates already mentioned.

Judgment and Chastisement, there are two traditional answers in the hallways of religion to why Christians should not think they should continue in sin; spankings from God and judgments from God. Paul gives two entirely different reasons, instead of chastisement and judgment, Paul holds up two entirely different issues, identity and slavery.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #189 on: April 22, 2016, 06:48:16 AM »
The “Sphinx” was invented as a memorial. It had the head of a woman and the body and tail of a lion, to tell us that this Book, written in the Heaven, began with the Sign “Virgo”, and will end with the Sign “Leo”. The word “sphinx” is from the Greek sphinx, to join; because it binds together the two ends of this circle of the heaven.
Oh. In that case is it,

"My sphinx has gone to the West Indies."

"Jamaica?"

"No. She went of her own accord."

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #190 on: April 22, 2016, 07:03:57 AM »
Oh. In that case is it,

"My sphinx has gone to the West Indies."

"Jamaica?"

"No. She went of her own accord."

?

Through the “procession of the Equinoxes” the sun gradually shifts its position a little each year, till in about every 2,000 years it begins the year in a different Sign. This was foreseen; and it was also foreseen where the sun began its courses, and where the teaching of this Heavenly Book commenced, and where we were to open its first page.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #191 on: April 22, 2016, 07:10:07 AM »
Through the “procession of the Equinoxes” the sun gradually shifts its position a little each year, till in about every 2,000 years it begins the year in a different Sign. This was foreseen; and it was also foreseen where the sun began its courses, and where the teaching of this Heavenly Book commenced, and where we were to open its first page.
In that case, is it,

"Why do sphinxes have C&A written in their knickers?"

"So they know which way round to wear them."

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #192 on: April 22, 2016, 07:29:51 AM »
In that case, is it,

"Why do sphinxes have C&A written in their knickers?"

"So they know which way round to wear them."

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To remind the Egyptians which way round to wear their knickers. So the riddle of the sphinx, where to start reading the stars and which way round to wear our knickers.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #193 on: April 22, 2016, 07:52:45 AM »
The monotheism of Israel does not and cannot evolve from polytheism, because the two are based on radically divergent world-views, radically divergent intuitions about reality. The monotheism of Israel was not, it could not be the natural outgrowth of the polytheism of an earlier age, it was a radical break with it. 
Monotheism was a revolution, not an evolution.

Drivel.

The real revolution came much later, when people started to realize that we don't need to make up magic beings in order to explain stuff.

Genesis 1:14-19 reveals the fact that the stars were created, not only “to divide the day from the night, and to give light upon the earth”; but, they were set “for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years”....

[blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah]

So, to return to the point I was making - you really think all the stars literally rotate around the pole star? And, what, the Earth stays still? Do you think the Earth is flat too?

x(∅ ∈ x ∧ ∀y(yxy ∪ {y} ∈ x))

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #194 on: April 22, 2016, 08:03:38 AM »
Drivel.

The real revolution came much later, when people started to realize that we don't need to make up magic beings in order to explain stuff.

So, to return to the point I was making - you really think all the stars literally rotate around the pole star? And, what, the Earth stays still? Do you think the Earth is flat too?

Don't waste your time, Stranger, he's just a WUM.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #195 on: April 22, 2016, 08:13:07 AM »
Don't waste your time, Stranger, he's just a WUM.
He is Robert Stone.
If you know his history on forums like this then you will realise, as others before, that interaction, conversation and the like, are a complete and utter waste of your time and effort.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #196 on: April 22, 2016, 08:13:20 AM »
Blimey, nn is obviously trying to rival Sass with the number of nutty posts one after another. ;D

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #197 on: April 22, 2016, 08:31:37 AM »
He is Robert Stone.
If you know his history on forums like this then you will realise, as others before, that interaction, conversation and the like, are a complete and utter waste of your time and effort.

I'm old Seb, but not daft ... I recognised him as a WUM after his first couple of posts.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #198 on: April 22, 2016, 09:29:11 AM »
A random word generator - definitely a random word generator. The spelling is pretty good though the grammar is a bit off in places, but it's remarkable how much these algorithms have improved in recent years. One of the clues though is that they just churn out gibberish regardless of the content of the comments and questions that are put to them.

Do we have a policy on this mb about algorithms posting?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #199 on: April 22, 2016, 10:04:10 AM »
A random word generator - definitely a random word generator. The spelling is pretty good though the grammar is a bit off in places, but it's remarkable how much these algorithms have improved in recent years. One of the clues though is that they just churn out gibberish regardless of the content of the comments and questions that are put to them.

Do we have a policy on this mb about algorithms posting?

This is him here I believe, pretty much all of the quotes you see have been derived from this 'collection'.

http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.co.uk/


He travels around settling on some unsuspecting forum then gets pretty much the same responses as he has here;

http://evangelicaluniversalist.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=6835

http://www.nairaland.com/newnature/posts

http://pilotsforchrist.proboards.com/user/54/recent

https://plus.google.com/110888684855191501688

Enjoy!


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