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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #325 on: April 25, 2016, 08:18:52 AM »
Do we have any corroborating evidence, or is it simply this Naessens guy, nn?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #326 on: April 25, 2016, 08:24:30 AM »
The stuff nn is telling us about is yet more pseudo-science nonsense.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/714x.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/714-X

 

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #327 on: April 25, 2016, 08:33:02 AM »
Do we have any corroborating evidence, or is it simply this Naessens guy, nn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJW94ciq4c Gaston Naessen. Bechamp came to the conclusion that these microzymas were more basic to life than cells. This caused Bechamp to champion the idea that the cause for disease lay within the body. Pasteur’s germ theory held that the cause came from without. Pasteur’s outspokenness helped the germ theory win out and dominate medical philosophy for the past century.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #328 on: April 25, 2016, 08:59:24 AM »
The stuff nn is telling us about is yet more pseudo-science nonsense.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/714x.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/714-X

They seem to carry information. How would the prayer of faith of the Israelites work with these Somatids?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #329 on: April 25, 2016, 09:05:46 AM »
They seem to carry information. How would the prayer of faith of the Israelites work with these Somatids?

Your post certainly contains words organised in the format of a sentence, but these words are also organised in the format of a non sequitur.

Out of interest, do you know of a single university-linked teaching hospital working in line with academic standards that subscribes to this 'somatids' notion?

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #330 on: April 25, 2016, 09:09:42 AM »
Your post certainly contains words organised in the format of a sentence, but these words are also organised in the format of a non sequitur.

Out of interest, do you know of a single university-linked teaching hospital working in line with academic standards that subscribes to this 'somatids' notion?

Looks like germ theory won out and dominate medical philosophy.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #331 on: April 25, 2016, 09:11:56 AM »
Looks like germ theory won out and dominate medical philosophy.

Nothing to do with your pet-theory being pseudo-scientific quackery then?

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #332 on: April 25, 2016, 09:20:41 AM »
Nothing to do with your pet-theory being pseudo-scientific quackery then?

Not my pet-theory, just learning about Somatids myself. Have learn a lot about them here from you good people. Somatids are trip.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #333 on: April 25, 2016, 09:22:14 AM »
Not my pet-theory, just learning about Somatids myself. Have learn a lot about them here from you good people. Somatids are trip.

Do you mean 'tripe'?

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #334 on: April 25, 2016, 09:33:20 AM »
Do you mean 'tripe'?

They are a trip. Tripe stuff. More money to be made in germ theory.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #335 on: April 25, 2016, 10:04:25 AM »
new algorithm,

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They are a trip. Tripe stuff. More money to be made in germ theory.

They may be a "trip" but they're also a hoax. All fun and games no doubt, but not when the fraudster who invented them claims to have a cure for cancer and sufferers believe him and abandon real medicine.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #336 on: April 25, 2016, 10:20:18 AM »
new algorithm,

They may be a "trip" but they're also a hoax. All fun and games no doubt, but not when the fraudster who invented them claims to have a cure for cancer and sufferers believe him and abandon real medicine.

How can a God put a person back together again? Somatids in dormant form, they are a very tiny, extremely hard Apatite crystal. How many of these dormant Somatids do you have on this earth?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #337 on: April 25, 2016, 10:25:14 AM »
How can a God put a person back together again? Somatids in dormant form, they are a very tiny, extremely hard Apatite crystal. How many of these dormant Somatids do you have on this earth?

Zero.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #338 on: April 25, 2016, 10:36:25 AM »
2 Timothy 2:15, approved where? At the Judgement Seat of the Savior. A workman worthy of God’s praise rightly dividing the word of truth.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #339 on: April 25, 2016, 10:38:46 AM »
new algorithm,

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How can a God put a person back together again? Somatids in dormant form, they are a very tiny, extremely hard Apatite crystal. How many of these dormant Somatids do you have on this earth?

There’s a formula to calculate that: take the square toot of the global number of unicorns, multiply by the captive population of Loch Ness monsters and divide the result by the verified number of alien abductions.

So that’ll be (√0 x 0)/0 then…

…oh hang on though…
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #340 on: April 25, 2016, 10:42:10 AM »
I heard Japan's islands were created from some dudes sword. Somehow it dripped seven drops of water which created the islands. I thought I needed another puff.

You'll note that the biblical account of creation was also included in those selected myths I listed.

I kept the scientific account separate but here it is now....

The universe was most likely created by some kind of big bang approximately 13.5 billion years ago.

The Earth is around 4.5 billion years old, having been born through accretion in the solar nebula and eventually cooling and acquiring an atmosphere.

Life on Earth progresses and evolved from primitive organisms to increasingly complex species through mutation and natural selection.

Hominds branched off from apes around 3 - 5 million years ago with modern man making an appearance around 250,000 years ago.

The evidence for this:

Radiometric dating, Hubble's Law, observations of cosmic background radiation, primordial nucleosynthesis, distribution and morphology of galaxies, theory of general relativity, genetics and phylogenetics, heredity, hybridisation, microevolution, the fossil record, comparative sequence alignment, vestigal and homologous structures, acquired antibiotic and pesticide resistance, geographic distribution and correlation, island biogeography, etc, etc, etc.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #341 on: April 25, 2016, 10:47:27 AM »
God is doing something different today, because he took the sin issue off his table of justice. God reconciled the human race to himself. Sin is no longer an issue today, because the human race has been freed from the law of Moses. It's a son issue during the age of grace.

No still don't get it, I'm OK with standard English, try that, if you would, thank you very much,
in advance.

ippy

PS Is this sin you refer to a bit like something you can catch such as measels?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #342 on: April 25, 2016, 10:58:24 AM »
You'll note that the biblical account of creation was also included in those selected myths I listed.

I kept the scientific account separate but here it is now....

The universe was most likely created by some kind of big bang approximately 13.5 billion years ago.

The Earth is around 4.5 billion years old, having been born through accretion in the solar nebula and eventually cooling and acquiring an atmosphere.

Life on Earth progresses and evolved from primitive organisms to increasingly complex species through mutation and natural selection.

Hominds branched off from apes around 3 - 5 million years ago with modern man making an appearance around 250,000 years ago.

The evidence for this:

Radiometric dating, Hubble's Law, observations of cosmic background radiation, primordial nucleosynthesis, distribution and morphology of galaxies, theory of general relativity, genetics and phylogenetics, heredity, hybridisation, microevolution, the fossil record, comparative sequence alignment, vestigal and homologous structures, acquired antibiotic and pesticide resistance, geographic distribution and correlation, island biogeography, etc, etc, etc.

Let's say the universe is that old, but the earth is older than that. The cave people during the fifth ‘a day’ in Genesis, that fifth ‘a day’ took around four and half billion years. Look at the cave people, God did not create them in his image. Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.

So these cave people, they would have to have everything we have, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtLXpgjHL0&feature=related

These cave people would not have had a God conscious, like God has given to the human race a God consciousness, the conscious perception that we could say that there is a God somewhere and that ultimately the human race is accountable to that God.

Nothing made it out alive when the fifth 'a day' came to an end. In the sixth 'a day' God created blood life in the whales. Once something is created, all God has to do breath it into a body.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #343 on: April 25, 2016, 11:00:32 AM »
No still don't get it, I'm OK with standard English, try that, if you would, thank you very much,
in advance.

ippy

PS Is this sin you refer to a bit like something you can catch such as measels?

Religion would say you have the measles, but not God; it is a son issue today.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #344 on: April 25, 2016, 11:02:05 AM »
new algorithm,

There’s a formula to calculate that: take the square toot of the global number of unicorns, multiply by the captive population of Loch Ness monsters and divide the result by the verified number of alien abductions.

So that’ll be (√0 x 0)/0 then…

…oh hang on though…

Matt. 27:51, the earthquake that fractured the rock opened a fissure that ran down through 20 foot of solid rock into a cave and cracked the stone lid on top of a black stone volt where the Ark of the Covenant lie hidden inside, pushing the lid aside. John 19:34, the blood that poured from the side of Jesus, ran down through that crevice and dripped onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant that was hidden by God and the prophet Jeremiah, right under where they crucified Jesus, 620 years earlier when the Babylonians destroyed Salomon’s temple.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #345 on: April 25, 2016, 11:07:24 AM »
Let's say the universe is that old, but the earth is older than that. The cave people during the fifth ‘a day’ in Genesis, that fifth ‘a day’ took around four and half billion years. Look at the cave people, God did not create them in his image. Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.

By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.

Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.

So these cave people, they would have to have everything we have, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtLXpgjHL0&feature=related

These cave people would not have had a God conscious, like God has given to the human race a God consciousness, the conscious perception that we could say that there is a God somewhere and that ultimately the human race is accountable to that God.

Nothing made it out alive when the fifth 'a day' came to an end. In the sixth 'a day' God created blood life in the whales. Once something is created, all God has to do breath it into a body.

Got as far as the first sentence; you cannot be serious (as that great philosopher John McEnroe once remarked).

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #346 on: April 25, 2016, 11:14:50 AM »
Got as far as the first sentence; you cannot be serious (as that great philosopher John McEnroe once remarked).

The earth is old, it was before Genesis 1:1. I used figures of speech to show that. Did God create mountains or did the earth make it's own mountains. Did God create gold or did the earth make gold?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #347 on: April 25, 2016, 11:23:05 AM »
The earth is old, it was before Genesis 1:1. I used figures of speech to show that. Did God create mountains or did the earth make it's own mountains. Did God create gold or did the earth make gold?

The Earth doesn't have agency as such, and neither does 'God' unless you can demonstrate divine intervention as opposed to just asserting it.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #348 on: April 25, 2016, 11:26:23 AM »
The Earth doesn't have agency as such, and neither does 'God' unless you can demonstrate divine intervention as opposed to just asserting it.

Lucifer's flood in Genesis 1:1 shows the earth is very old. Figures of speech show Lucifer's flood.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #349 on: April 25, 2016, 11:26:34 AM »
The earth is old, it was before Genesis 1:1. I used figures of speech to show that.

Nope. You just claimed to have done.

The whole idea that you can use figures of speech to demonstrate the age of the Earth is madder than a bucket full of spiders.
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