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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #350 on: April 25, 2016, 11:32:58 AM »
Nope. You just claimed to have done.

The whole idea that you can use figures of speech to demonstrate the age of the Earth is madder than a bucket full of spiders.

I already did show Lucifer's flood using figures of speech. There has to be a earth for Lucifer to flood. The earth was was doing it's thing before Lucifer was created.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #351 on: April 25, 2016, 11:34:02 AM »
Lucifer's flood in Genesis 1:1 shows the earth is very old. Figures of speech show Lucifer's flood.

Nope: it would be water that 'shows' floods and not figures of speech.

I've no idea if you are one of these global flood types, and if so then here is a figure of speech that comes to mind: 'it didn't happen' (since if it did, given the scale of inundation, it would have left clear evidence).

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #352 on: April 25, 2016, 11:37:44 AM »
Nope: it would be water that 'shows' floods and not figures of speech.

I've no idea if you are one of these global flood types, and if so then here is a figure of speech that comes to mind: 'it didn't happen' (since if it did, given the scale of inundation, it would have left clear evidence).

There are two floods recorded in Genesis. Genesis 1:1 shows the earth flooded out.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #353 on: April 25, 2016, 11:40:59 AM »
There are two floods recorded in Genesis. Genesis 1:1 shows the earth flooded out.

Then Genesis 1:1 is wrong, if that is what it says and if you take it literally.

Have you considered that it might be a myth dating to more credulous times?

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #354 on: April 25, 2016, 11:44:13 AM »
new algorithm,

There’s a formula to calculate that: take the square toot of the global number of unicorns, multiply by the captive population of Loch Ness monsters and divide the result by the verified number of alien abductions.

So that’ll be (√0 x 0)/0 then…

…oh hang on though…
bhs (in admin),

You do realise that (one of the three) answers to that equation is 1...?  8)
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #355 on: April 25, 2016, 11:49:17 AM »
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bhs (in admin),

You do realise that (one of the three) answers to that equation is 1...?  8)

Maths never was my long suit  :(
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #356 on: April 25, 2016, 11:50:44 AM »
Then Genesis 1:1 is wrong, if that is what it says and if you take it literally.

Have you considered that it might be a myth dating to more credulous times?

The figure of speech is clear about what is going on on the earth. I don't know any myth stories that use figures of speech.

“Without form” the Hebrew word is ‘tohu va bohu’ and is the figure of speech Paronomasia or Rhyming words. The repetition of words similar in sound,  but not necessarily in sense. Without form, one of the Hebrew words is ‘tohu’ and is used as a subsequent event. Not created ‘tohu’ (Isa. 45:18), but became ‘tohu’ (2 Pet. 3:5-6). The other word is ‘bohu’ and is rendered “void”, means desolate. The two words together occur in Gen. 1:2a; Isa. 34:11; Jer. 4:23.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #357 on: April 25, 2016, 11:56:34 AM »
bhs (in admin),

You do realise that (one of the three) answers to that equation is 1...?  8)

But the equation of this figure of speech adds up to darkness being on the earth. “Face” in Genesis 1:2a is the figure Pleonasm or Redundancy. Where what is said is, immediately after, put in another or opposite way to make it impossible for the sense to be missed.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #358 on: April 25, 2016, 11:56:58 AM »
Somatids in "dormant form," they are a very tiny, extremely hard Apatite crystal that it is very difficult to cut with a diamond knife. They are resistant to all acids, and withstand extremely high carbonizing temperatures and extreme levels of radiation.

Nearly: Somatids are very advanced souls who inhabit human bodies and help to keep them healthy. They are found everywhere inside a human body – in the organs, glands, tissues and everywhere else.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #359 on: April 25, 2016, 11:58:22 AM »
Squeaks,

Maths never was my long suit  :(

You can do the math on this figure of speech. “The earth” is the figure of speech Anadiplosis or Like sentence endings and beginnings. The word or words concluding one sentence are repeated at the beginning of another.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #360 on: April 25, 2016, 11:59:57 AM »
You can do the math on this figure of speech. “The earth” is the figure of speech Anadiplosis or Like sentence endings and beginnings. The word or words concluding one sentence are repeated at the beginning of another.

This is all very well and good but you still haven't told me how they can be observed in blood at 1000C.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #361 on: April 25, 2016, 12:00:16 PM »
The figure of speech is clear about what is going on on the earth. I don't know any myth stories that use figures of speech.

“Without form” the Hebrew word is ‘tohu va bohu’ and is the figure of speech Paronomasia or Rhyming words. The repetition of words similar in sound,  but not necessarily in sense. Without form, one of the Hebrew words is ‘tohu’ and is used as a subsequent event. Not created ‘tohu’ (Isa. 45:18), but became ‘tohu’ (2 Pet. 3:5-6). The other word is ‘bohu’ and is rendered “void”, means desolate. The two words together occur in Gen. 1:2a; Isa. 34:11; Jer. 4:23.

I do: how about this for some 'Paronomasia or Rhyming words'.

'Jack and Jill went up the hill' (to fetch a pail of water, allegedly).

So, let's stop discussing words and start discussing water: more specifically the lack if it in terms of ancient stories about global floods.

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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #362 on: April 25, 2016, 12:01:35 PM »
Matt. 27:51, the earthquake that fractured the rock opened a fissure that ran down through 20 foot of solid rock into a cave and cracked the stone lid on top of a black stone volt where the Ark of the Covenant lie hidden inside, pushing the lid aside. John 19:34, the blood that poured from the side of Jesus, ran down through that crevice and dripped onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant that was hidden by God and the prophet Jeremiah, right under where they crucified Jesus, 620 years earlier when the Babylonians destroyed Salomon’s temple.

Sorry mate - that is not Gospel. That is just making shit up to fit your twisted belief!!
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #363 on: April 25, 2016, 12:02:37 PM »
I already did show Lucifer's flood using figures of speech.

You certainly did not.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #364 on: April 25, 2016, 12:04:40 PM »
Nearly: Somatids are very advanced souls who inhabit human bodies and help to keep them healthy. They are found everywhere inside a human body – in the organs, glands, tissues and everywhere else.

The term soul - nephesh is used for both people and animals because both are conscious beings. They both share the same animating life-principle or “life-breath.” Somatids might be the cause of why people living over 800 years.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #365 on: April 25, 2016, 12:05:27 PM »
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new algorithm,

There’s a formula to calculate that: take the square toot of the global number of unicorns, multiply by the captive population of Loch Ness monsters and divide the result by the verified number of alien abductions.

So that’ll be (√0 x 0)/0 then…

…oh hang on though…
bhs (in admin),

You do realise that (one of the three) answers to that equation is 1...?  8)

There's an infinite number of answers.

Or NaN.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #366 on: April 25, 2016, 12:06:25 PM »
This is all very well and good but you still haven't told me how they can be observed in blood at 1000C.

How many times have I answer your question. In there dormant form.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #367 on: April 25, 2016, 12:11:22 PM »
I do: how about this for some 'Paronomasia or Rhyming words'.

'Jack and Jill went up the hill' (to fetch a pail of water, allegedly).

So, let's stop discussing words and start discussing water: more specifically the lack if it in terms of ancient stories about global floods.

There is science to Paronomasia. I think your ancient stories lack Paronomasia?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #368 on: April 25, 2016, 12:11:55 PM »
Lucifer's flood in Genesis 1:1 shows the earth is very old. Figures of speech show Lucifer's flood.

Lucifer's Duck paddled upon that flood and laughed at all the cumbersome mammals who struggled and sank into depths.

Only to be swallowed up by the Jesus Orca....

WTF are you chatting about: Lucifers flood indeed..

"1 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

2 Now the earth was unformed and void, and The Darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters."

Are you trying to claim that Ridley Scotts' "Darkness" is something more that Tim Curry in awesome make-up?



 
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #369 on: April 25, 2016, 12:12:16 PM »
Sorry mate - that is not Gospel. That is just making shit up to fit your twisted belief!!

It is Israelite history.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #370 on: April 25, 2016, 12:14:00 PM »
You certainly did not.

Yes I did. You was to bewildered about the Poler Star moving.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #371 on: April 25, 2016, 12:17:07 PM »
The term soul - nephesh is used for both people and animals because both are conscious beings. They both share the same animating life-principle or “life-breath.” Somatids might be the cause of why people living over 800 years.

So nothing tangible then?
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #372 on: April 25, 2016, 12:17:36 PM »
Lucifer's Duck paddled upon that flood and laughed at all the cumbersome mammals who struggled and sank into depths.

Only to be swallowed up by the Jesus Orca....

WTF are you chatting about: Lucifers flood indeed..

"1 In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.

2 Now the earth was unformed and void, and The Darkness was upon the face of the deep, and the spirit of God hovered over the face of the waters."

Are you trying to claim that Ridley Scotts' "Darkness" is something more that Tim Curry in awesome make-up?

In Genesis 1:2a, the two verbs ‘was’ should be the verb ‘to become’. The Revisers ill-advisedly decided that “all such words, now printed in italics, as are plainly implied in the Hebrew, and necessary in English, be printed in common type. One of the consequences of this decision is that the verb “to be” is not distinguished from the verb “to become”, so that the lessons conveyed are lost.
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #373 on: April 25, 2016, 12:19:50 PM »
It is Israelite history.

It is a story of your own concoction - take bits of shit, add some more shit and bingo-bongo - Made up shit that makes sense in your shit for brains..
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Re: After The Fall
« Reply #374 on: April 25, 2016, 12:19:58 PM »
Yes I did. You was to bewildered about the Poler Star moving.

No you didn't and no I wasn't.

You didn't seem to grasp the fact that the stars don't really rotate around the pole star.

Not that this has anything to do with the loopy-fruitcake insanity that you can prove shit with figures of speech....
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