After The Fall

[Bubbles]

It was this new star in Coma that caused Hipparchus to draw up his catalogue of stars, which has been handed down by Ptolemy (150).

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[Étienne d'Angleterre]

No matter how old blood is, how battered, whatever it’s condition, it never dies. There are things called somatids in blood that are alive, and they belong to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

Could I ask you to explain in simple terms what live blood is? Then we can determine if it ever dies.

[Brownie]

The study of live blood comes under Darfield microscopy, an interesting branch of science  .

[newnature]

Could I ask you to explain in simple terms what live blood is? Then we can determine if it ever dies.

Yet these somatids are in the blood. Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

[Stranger]

Yet these somatids are in the blood. Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

That domain being your imagination, perhaps....?

[Gordon]

Yet these somatids are in the blood. Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

What are the views of modern-day haematologists on these somatids?

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

The study of live blood comes under Darfield microscopy, an interesting branch of science  .

But what are the properties blood has to have in order to be described as live? Once we know this we can determine if it can ever be said to be dead.

I will have a google though, so thank you.

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

Yet these somatids are in the blood. Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

see reply #456

[Brownie]

Yet these somatids are in the blood. Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

Ah but we are getting there nn, with the rise of Darkfield (or Dark Field) microscopy.  Best studied with Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor playing in the background.

[2Corrie]

just googled somatids, I'll let you know when I've stopped laughing

[jeremyp]

No matter how old blood is, how battered, whatever it’s condition, it never dies. There are things called somatids in blood that are alive, and they belong to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

If somatids are alive and indestructible, shouldn't the whole Universe be made of them by now?

[Brownie]

The somatid is an ultramicrosopic subcellular living and reproducing entity, which many scientists believe is the precursor of DNA and which may be the building block of all terrestrial life.  So, yes, Jeremy, could be.

[Ricky Spanish]

The somatid is an ultramicrosopic subcellular living and reproducing entity, which many scientists believe is the precursor of DNA and which may be the building block of all terrestrial life.  So, yes, Jeremy, could be.

Really? - "an ultramicrosopic [sic] subcellular living and reproducing entity!" - How many Scientists believe this?

Can you list them?

I can only find one and he is a pseudoscientist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/714-X

[Brownie]

What are the views of modern-day haematologists on these somatids?

They call it Pseudo-Science, Gordon, so presumably the Pseudo-scientists particularly concerned with the blood ('Pseudo-haematics', not to be confused with ''Haematinics'') are, er, ''Pseudo-haematists. The modern-day haematologists are cautious about somatids.  Interesting isn't it?

Thrud 

[Sebastian Toe]

Yet these somatids are in the blood. Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

What's the difference between a somatid and a bike?

They both have handlebars, except for the somatid.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Brownie,

The somatid is an ultramicrosopic subcellular living and reproducing entity, which many scientists believe is the precursor of DNA and which may be the building block of all terrestrial life.  So, yes, Jeremy, could be.

Yay, you tell it like it is sister!

Oh, hang on a mo though - you're bang on except for the tiny detail that, well, these "somatids" of yours are entirely imaginary, a hoax, a chimera, a wiil-o'-the-wisp, a new age bullshit "like eveything happens for a reason maaaan" pile of steaming unicorn doo-doo.

Doubtless you'll be able to point us towards these "many scientists", their methodologies, their evidence, their peer-reviewed research papers, even their pictures on the front of reputable science journals for all I know in due course but, until then - fun as it may be just to make up this stuff with bad science - it's still flat out false.

Only speaking of "false", here's why it's not fun at all. If you look at the few rambling fruit loop tinfoil hat websites about these things some also casually throw in that by some mystical process unknown to medical science these imaginary somatids can diagnose and cure diseases that "traditional" medicine cannot. And sometimes people just as gullible as you and new who are ill actually believe that crap, and give up the medicine that could cure them in favour of this quackery.

And that ain't cool at all. Or fun.

You know what Ben Goldacre famously called "alternative" medicine that actually works?

Medicine.

[horsethorn]

Just trying to see where figures of speech are used in your myth story.

Well, it all begins back when Tyr was into cryptic crosswords, and noticed that Baldur's name was an anagram for 'u r bald'. This didn't please Odin, and they had a bit of a disagreement. However, the writers of the Prose Edda had an idea to calm them all down. They made this announcement...

Because of the Anagrams dispute it has been decided to devote the rest of this space to a page specially written for people who like figures of speech, for the not a few fans of litotes, and those with no small interest in meiosis, for the infinite millions of hyperbole-lovers, for those fond of hypallage, and the epithet's golden transfer, for those who fall willingly into the arms of the metaphor, those who give up the ghost, bury their heads in the sand and ride roughshod over the mixed metaphor, and even those of hyperbaton the friends.

It will be, too, for those who reprehend the malapropism; who love the wealth of metonymy; for all friends of rhetoric and syllepsis; and zeugmatists with smiling eyes and hearts. It will bring a large absence of unsatisfactory malevolence to periphrastic fans; a wig harm bello to spoonerists; and in no small measure a not less than splendid greeting to you circumlocutors.

The world adores prosopopeiasts, and the friendly faces of synechdotists, and can one not make those amorous of anacoluthon understand that if they are not satisfied by this, what is to happen to them?

It will attempt to really welcome all splitters of infinitives, all who are Romeo and Juliet to antonomasia, those who drink up similes like sparkling champagne, who lose nothing compared with comparison heads, self-evident axiomists, all pithy aphorists, apothegemists, maximiles, theorists, epigrammatists and even gnomists.

And as for the lovers of aposiopesis--!

It will wish bienvenu to all classical adherents of euphuism, all metathesistic birds, golden paronomasiasts covered in guilt, fallacious paralogists, tropists, anagogists, and anaphorists; to greet, welcome, embrace asyndeton buffs, while the lovers of ellipsis will be well-met and its followers embraced, as will be chronic worshipers of catachresis and supporters of anastrophe the world over.

Hope that helps

ht

[ippy]

No matter how old blood is, how battered, whatever it’s condition, it never dies. There are things called somatids in blood that are alive, and they belong to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

Hi there N N, thanks for the post but it makes me wonder what's wrong with using standard English, without the rather amateur looking failed attempt to look as though you're talking in riddles.

If you can find the time to write without including all of the codswallop, I've described above, perhaps I might have some idea whatever it is you're trying to say and would then be able to respond.

ippy 

[Enki]

Well, it all begins back when Tyr was into cryptic crosswords, and noticed that Baldur's name was an anagram for 'u r bald'. This didn't please Odin, and they had a bit of a disagreement. However, the writers of the Prose Edda had an idea to calm them all down. They made this announcement...

Because of the Anagrams dispute it has been decided to devote the rest of this space to a page specially written for people who like figures of speech, for the not a few fans of litotes, and those with no small interest in meiosis, for the infinite millions of hyperbole-lovers, for those fond of hypallage, and the epithet's golden transfer, for those who fall willingly into the arms of the metaphor, those who give up the ghost, bury their heads in the sand and ride roughshod over the mixed metaphor, and even those of hyperbaton the friends.

It will be, too, for those who reprehend the malapropism; who love the wealth of metonymy; for all friends of rhetoric and syllepsis; and zeugmatists with smiling eyes and hearts. It will bring a large absence of unsatisfactory malevolence to periphrastic fans; a wig harm bello to spoonerists; and in no small measure a not less than splendid greeting to you circumlocutors.

The world adores prosopopeiasts, and the friendly faces of synechdotists, and can one not make those amorous of anacoluthon understand that if they are not satisfied by this, what is to happen to them?

It will attempt to really welcome all splitters of infinitives, all who are Romeo and Juliet to antonomasia, those who drink up similes like sparkling champagne, who lose nothing compared with comparison heads, self-evident axiomists, all pithy aphorists, apothegemists, maximiles, theorists, epigrammatists and even gnomists.

And as for the lovers of aposiopesis--!

It will wish bienvenu to all classical adherents of euphuism, all metathesistic birds, golden paronomasiasts covered in guilt, fallacious paralogists, tropists, anagogists, and anaphorists; to greet, welcome, embrace asyndeton buffs, while the lovers of ellipsis will be well-met and its followers embraced, as will be chronic worshipers of catachresis and supporters of anastrophe the world over.

Hope that helps

ht

I think I comprehend what you are articulating, although your predilection for the simple and unembellished word, rather than the more complex and convoluted one does make it rather operose to appreciate.

[Shaker]

I'm feeling inordinately incommoded by all this sesquipedelianism.

[horsethorn]

Well, I have to admit that Monty Python did have a slight influence on what I wrote...

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_scripts/brandnew.php

ht

[Brownie]

Bluehillside, sorry you didn't think my attempt at straight-faced fun was appropriate.  I promise I won't do it again but I couldn't resist at the time.

[Sebastian Toe]

Yet these somatids are in the blood. Somatids, a life form which is not bacterial, viral or fugal, but which instead belongs to a distinct domain unknown to modern science and medicine.

You need to disenthral your mind from these logomachies.
It makes you look like a monorchid haruspex.

[Dicky Underpants]

Well, I have to admit that Monty Python did have a slight influence on what I wrote...

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_scripts/brandnew.php

ht

Ah - what a shame. I was hoping it was original horsethorn; in which case I would have granted you the coveted award of the celestial golden bogroll.

Mixing my Latin and Greek, I wonder if NN's exposition is apodeictically related to his catastasis or indeed to his inevitable catastrophe. What is certain is that he already has his head well up his own arse. And I rather feel he likes it up there.

[Dicky Underpants]

Bluehillside, sorry you didn't think my attempt at straight-faced fun was appropriate.  I promise I won't do it again but I couldn't resist at the time.

Oh, please do. I'm surprised that blue didn't see past your po-face.